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Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences => Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! => Topic started by: fredhedd on November 06, 2002, 15:31:07

Title: What to make of all this "jolting"?
Post by: fredhedd on November 06, 2002, 15:31:07
it's been suggested that is your double being jerked back into your body.  as you fall asleep your double leaves.  when you awake it comes back.  if you wake up too fast after you've fallen asleep you'll get that feeling of jolting because it's being jolted back into your body.  i used to get it when i was too tired to drive and was on the highway.

Title: What to make of all this "jolting"?
Post by: SiVA on November 06, 2002, 16:21:30
quote:
Originally posted by fredhedd:
i used to get it when i was too tired to drive and was on the highway.



That sounds like a dangerous place to be...

Take care



Title: What to make of all this "jolting"?
Post by: fredhedd on November 06, 2002, 16:23:17
i read a book on sleep driving.

Title: What to make of all this "jolting"?
Post by: jilola on November 06, 2002, 17:08:23
There's a book?! In my time we had to do it all by ourselves.

Seriously, hypnogogic jerks. (much like freddhedd. hee hee hee :D) That's the term.
For me it's usually only the fingers or one hand but sometimes I jump straight up like being electrocuted back to life... 'ang on.. defibrillated. Yah that's the word.

You're doing somethig right and then miss a spot. Just keep at it and you'll have less jerks. Damn I'd like to have some pun here..

2cents

jouni

Title: What to make of all this "jolting"?
Post by: Leviiathan on November 06, 2002, 19:29:28
I used to get those a lot. I found that whenever I'd sleep with my legs up (in the position of doing curl-ups... up and bent, rather than flat, or even just one leg bent), I'd fall asleep and then my leg(s) would jolt.

I found, however, that when I didn't sleep this way, it wouldn't happen. When I sleep flat, it doesn't happen.

Title: What to make of all this "jolting"?
Post by: waterbreathing on November 07, 2002, 01:47:10
quote:
Originally posted by SiVA:
I lay down to do my relaxation technique, and once my body is asleep and my mind starts to drift slightly I'll be "jolted" back to reality, like a quick violent jerking movement of my body (Sometimes only a body part, like my Leg or Arm)

Although this is sometimes helpful in keeping me awake, I'm curious as to why this happens and if it's a sign that I'm on my way to an OBE.

Thanks for your thoughts



I also have had these things happening when doing relaxation and accidently falling asleep. Perhaps it could be due to tension releasing. That is a sudden release of some knot of tension or something. Perhaps further relaxing the area in which it happens would help release this deeper tension?
Just questions to "answer" a question

Love and light,
Wb

Title: What to make of all this "jolting"?
Post by: Lysear on November 07, 2002, 05:50:09
thats exactly what happened to  me too! perhaps its a jolt from your brain to keep you awake?
 

                         Lysear

     P.S isn't SiVA a Smashing pumpkins song?

Title: What to make of all this "jolting"?
Post by: SiVA on November 07, 2002, 07:46:33
quote:
Originally posted by Lysear:
     P.S isn't SiVA a Smashing pumpkins song?



So I'm told... I picked it up from the Hindu religion. Lord Siva (Shiva) is the Lord of Destruction. He's also one of the greatest Devotees of Krishna.



Title: What to make of all this "jolting"?
Post by: Meg on November 07, 2002, 09:38:32
I get this too. I did read a scientific explanation once, but I cant remember the details about it...something to do with chemicals in the brain that occur just beofre sleep..

Meg

"...listening like the orange tree..."  - John Shaw Neilson
Title: What to make of all this "jolting"?
Post by: dufrenej on November 07, 2002, 10:52:07
Yep, I too get these jolts.  For me, it started awhile after doing my energy exercises.  Even though I don't follow a regular schedule doing them (often weeks without practicing) I still get jolts now and then.  And it dosn't only happen when I am practicing raising energy or OBE, many times when I just begin to doze off to sleep.  Like fredhedd mentioned I am hoping :) it is because my astral body is slamming back to my physical one, maybe i'm getting close to a conscious exit.   I have noticed often I am on the threshold of holding a medatative state and/or sleep when this happens.

Also I occasionally hear a VERY loud crack or boom noise, very much like a gunshot.  Twice it was so loud my ears hurt from it.  

~Jacque
Title: What to make of all this "jolting"?
Post by: Danny_Boy on November 07, 2002, 11:50:31
Hmm I find this topic similar to experiences i've had, but the experiences are when i am trying to get to sleep, normally I feel the Jolting twice a night before I fall asleep, I always considered it normal but i'm very releaved to know what it is, if it is that.


"I dream because I love the Freedom" - D.B
Title: What to make of all this "jolting"?
Post by: Paukki on November 07, 2002, 17:49:44
On page 4 I brought this up under the title of "syncronous body jerks".  It seems highly plausible to me that one can have "shortie" dreams that have a motor action, (in terms of the human nervous and muscular systems), and this leads to the JOLT, because the medulla oblongata has flipped a switch that disallows totally connecting up these systems.  It prevents you from thrashing around in bed during your dreams.  My most interesting recent experience with this followed a day of using a very long air wand to jab and poke at a stuck mound of unmoving biomass.  After I got home and showered and wound down a bit, I had a meditation session wherein the "jolt" clearly hit my upper right shoulder in a way that was clearly synchronous with semi-consciously reliving the jabbing of the air mass.  There's definitely a hypnogogic aspect to these things.  The following is the page 4 topic:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=&TOPIC_ID=2360

--Paukki

Title: What to make of all this "jolting"?
Post by: Leviiathan on November 07, 2002, 19:36:39
Everytime I've had a jolt, it's always been the case that when I've been dreaming, I've done some sort of action that has caused the respective body part to jolt. If I'm falling, in one scenario, my body will jolt, whereas if I fall and the sensation and fear feels realistic enough in my mind, my physical body will react very strongly.

Title: What to make of all this "jolting"?
Post by: Zarklon on November 07, 2002, 19:46:17
Can anyone tell me what the loud noises are ? I get those too followed by a jerk ... last night a mental picture of a girl ran up and kicked the crap outta my ribcage on the left side and it jolted me back awake.. I also had a sound liek a paper bag being blown up and hitting me in the head.. waht does this mean and how might we use it to project if we can?

Title: What to make of all this "jolting"?
Post by: SiVA on November 06, 2002, 13:33:19
I lay down to do my relaxation technique, and once my body is asleep and my mind starts to drift slightly I'll be "jolted" back to reality, like a quick violent jerking movement of my body (Sometimes only a body part, like my Leg or Arm)

Although this is sometimes helpful in keeping me awake, I'm curious as to why this happens and if it's a sign that I'm on my way to an OBE.

Thanks for your thoughts