check the Lucid dreaming forum on this side. I use the same technique you do. I induce a Lucid dream then I close my eyes and find myself in my bed with vibration. I'm pretty new though, have just gotten out of my body once so far. but I'll work on it. What's in your opinion the difference between Lucid dream and OBE?
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Projecting from a Lucid dream, or I call it just plain Dream lol.
That is how I know how to project, I've only consciencely projected like once or twice, but I have projected from a dream a few times heh. I just dream about drinking water and I project :) . .
In your dreams you cannot obviously drink water, so your subsonscience mind I think tries to manipulate or or try to copy the feeling of drinking water, so its like a endless time of dirnking water lol I remember dirnking for a ridiculous amount of time then I realize it, and instantly I'm in the RTZ.
Same for me. Most of my OBEs are from dreams or daydreaming. I don't think I ever had one OBE without loosing some consciousness in between...
I tried to drink too in my dreams; it's funny! I spill it all over... [:D]
haha, endless drinking =p I used to just try and fly into space faster than the speed of light, and I would pop right out of my body, but it was my first time(s), so I never got far =/
I´m afraid I´ll have to be jumping between lucid dreming and OBE forums.
Tombodentman asked:"What's in your opinion the difference between Lucid dream and OBE?"
For me are pretty different things. I understand a lucid dream as that DREAM in which you are ,or become ,aware that you are dreaming.Is like your everyday conscience has decided to get control in your dreams...but I repeat, the environment is that of a DREAM and I´m using my everyday conscience quite normally.
Why that control happens? Have absolutely no idea, it JUST HAPPENS!
OBE is the Out of Body Experience...Is NOT A DREAM anymore for me.The environment is not a dream.
Lucid dream has no necessary relation with OBE, I think...mmm...though lucid dreaming has always lead me to OBE,I suppose we could stay in the lucid dream without going for the vibrations and OBE stuff...but I repeat, is not my case.(I think there is a slight diference between a lucid dream and a vivid dream too...)I don´t stay in the lucid dream state any longer than the time it takes to "think" of my body in my bed, then the dream fades and I´m there in zero time in full vibration...
As I said, is NOT A DREAM:
I´m in my room, my bed, vibrating like excrement. And what´s taking control there is difficult to explain...not much thinking...just action:at a certain point, (if you wish,succed, or if you dear) you´ll pull out!and Your conscience, your perception, well, all of you (but your phisical body which is nicely sleeping in bed) will take a wild "ride" !Man,the astral body is a hell of a rig!
I suppose that in that point of my lucid dream(that moment I realize I´m dreaming) I could decide to just keep on with lucid dreaming...but we all know that the OBEs are the big fish we are all chasing..[:P]
This thing you have with drinking water is fun ! I´ve never done it...I started just looking at my hands and later there were episodes in wich I was eating yoghourt..They all had the same efect: turn a normal dream into lucid dream. In the last episodes I was just riding my motorcycle down the road...and as the road went down my concience was going up,vividness raised and raised..till the point of saying to myself:"Heck ! I´m dreaming this"
I supose that european odd posting times have turned this thred very cosmopolitan..swiss, french..
Salut!
For me, the only difference I noticed between my lucid dreams and my OBEs is the body separation feeling and the quality of the lucidity... Other than that, I see not much difference.
The one big difference I am still waiting for is astral versus RTZ... I can't wait to be able to verify it is possible!
So far I myself couldn't really crasp the ultimate difference between LD and OBE. Well yeah there is the separtion process leading to the OBE, the vibrations.... but the experience after, is it really other than a LD. Well I guess I have to get some more OBE's to see for myself. I'll see if I can find proove that OBE is actually happening outside my physical body.
Cheers Tom
okay, i thought i told yea what it feels like but maybe i didnt,
in lucid dreams, well for me, i dont smell, its distant hears, like mono compared wioth stereo lol, litterally...
visual is distant, OBE is like real as if I am typing right now kinda real, and the added, smell, feel, touch, all that stuff! huuuuuuuuge differences for me
I appreciate very much all the posts here about relaxation technics, meditation,"almost sleep" and this and that other technic for OBEs..., but is a bit upseting for me becouse I´m not at it[:(]
My first OBE came from a dream...
I was reading Castaneda books about that time and was very intrigued about all the stuff he was describing there..my curiosity was unbearable! There was a certain passage of a book telling that by looking at your hands in the middle of a dream you could be able to get control over it and at the same time become aware of your energetic body(OBE´s vehicle for sure)It sounded pretty weird to me, but crazy easy to try too[:P]
Well, I decided to give it a try ,and after some time I succed...I´m not gonna describe the deep amazement I felt: I couldn´t...
Just after looking at my hands in the middle of my dream ,my conscience moved right back to my room :and I was in full vibrations lying in my bed...and after a slight wish of doing so ,I simply pulled out.
Since then, all my chances to OBE have been generated inside a regular dream...the last times I didn´t even had to look at my hands: Is just that at a certain point of a regular and normal dream It starts to get more and more vivid...till the point I tell to myself:THIS IS A DREAM! And I´m inmediately back to my bed in full vibratins.Not really pulling out lately becouse I wake up due to the impression of the vibrations.I think I´m getting a bit too excited about it all and I stop before I can pull away[:(]Which is what I most wish !!! (I remember once even waked up shouting !)
I have to admit I have no patience for trying to achieve any trance state or any other wake induced OBE technic..and I´m afraid is not my way anyway. Dreaming is far easier[;)]Though a bit unpredictable, becouse I really have no clue when I will have the chance to become aware of my dreams..It just happens.
Who is progressing in this field? I would greatly apreciate your story.
Best wishes