Why do some use crystals/chakra work and others not?

[Bedeekin]

What the title says...

Why do some people use crystals or feel the need to use them and the connected 'chakra' system and others don't?

Questions for those that do use chakra and crystals...

What is your opinion of those that project without using knowledge of chakras or the use of crystals and what benefit is missing from the experiences of those that don't?

[desert-rat]

I would think it would depends on personal beliefs .  Get info on crystals and try some .  All or most new book stores , and rock and gem places have them .  There was a place in Peoria AZ ( its gone now ) that had a crystal room , all kind of crystals , some were for sale . For a few $ you could set or meditate in the room .  Around Phoenix, Alpha book store , Jan Ross , and Rockazona have crystals http://newage-s.startlogic.com/index.html    There is / was a lot of white quartz out in the desert . A lot of it is in peoples yards now .  desert rat 

[Bedeekin]

Yeah... but I am actually asking so that I understand it from the POV of someone who uses these methods. Mainly because there is a split between the users and non-users. Not a nasty split... more of a 'you believe that... I believe this... and never our paths will cross".

This isn't a leading question for me to rebuff or counter argue. I'm actually genuinely interested from the view point of those that do use them.

For me to get some and try them... I wouldn't know what to look for. lol

What would I be using them for when I have spent the majority of my life seemingly doing the same sort of things; nonphysical exploration and self healing etc. and if this is so.. .why?

If it's belief based then is it a belief or a preference? If those who use them believe it helps them... what do they think about those who don't use them... This same thing extends to the demon thread but it's positive rather than negative.

[Bedeekin]

Actually.. .I have crystals in the house... I have (my Gfriend has) a rose quartz ornament that sits on our bedroom shelf.. a white quartz tea-light holder and I have a National Geographic mineral collection in a picture frame box.

[ChopstickFox]

Like most things, I try to remain skeptic. I never used crystals specifically for OBEs, but I discovered years ago that I kind of kill crystals unintentionally... Maybe this is off topic, though. Even after cleansing, if an amethyst gets too close for a while, it develops dark dots on the inside and cracks. The surface will remain smooth, but the inside will look like ice rupturing. It makes it sound weird, but it's just an observation. After ruining a few amethyst, I stopped dealing with crystals. I saw the other topic with the different crystals listed and it does make me curious.

[Bedeekin]

You must really mess up certain types of radios or CBs.

Stay away from my NatGeo crystal collection!!! 

[LoLmart]

I will copy paste what I wrote in the other section for OBEs (no idea why they are separated):

"It is good to have different crystals attached (touching the skin) to their corresponding chakra. Every chakra is connected to a gland because glands store microcrystals, which amplify the energy at that place. So my advice is to research the type of crystals stored within the different glands and then buy the corresponding crystals and meditate with them while they are on your skin. So, if the pineal gland has quartz - put quartz on your forehead to amplify the receiving frequencies and the energy flow of the chakra. I have not researched this deeply but you can e-mail David Sereda, he knows a lot about this stuff and he is a scientist who tests this stuff and is an expert Astral Projector. Tell me what you find, I am lazy to do this."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vyr-nLQXT0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-tUHOB87lI&feature=relmfu

[Bedeekin]

Actually... I could help you here... the Pineal Gland actually contains tiny little Piezoelectric Calcite Micro Crystals (not quartz)... they are bioluminescent. They glow green. Absolutely true. 

Sonar uses the Piezoelectric effect and also your wristwatch.

[LoLmart]

There you go. I think Sereda actually says the same thing in the video. I was just giving an example. I will try researching using Calcite crystals of some sort for meditating on the third eye.

[desert-rat]

I found this link on crystals http://www.neatstuff.net/avalon/texts/know-how.html#chakra stones   there are many more that are easy to find .  Many years ago I was at a kind of new age fair ( early 80s ) This lady did this test .  She had me hold a packet of sugar in one hand and told me to resist her with my other arm , I had very little strength . Then she let me hold a piece of amethyst with the sugar and I could resist her .  She told me I needed a $ 65 pendent , I told her I would think about it .  I got some crystals in a store for like 75 cents to $1 a piece and carried them around for awhile .  desert rat  

[Bedeekin]

There you go. I think Sereda actually says the same thing in the video. I was just giving an example. I will try researching using Calcite crystals of some sort for meditating on the third eye.

Well... you already have them in your brain! lol

[Volgerle]

What is your opinion of those that project without using knowledge of chakras or the use of crystals and what benefit is missing from the experiences of those that don't?

What is your opinion respectively of those athletes who run with or without using the up-to-date scientific knowledge of modern sports science or the newest / best running shoe currently on the market?

So yes: You can run with or without the tools or knowledge, they are just tools / knowledge that might help you getting faster to where you want to go, or maybe get to 'places' or states where you would (maybe) not go if without. I can attest to that. Recently I did get to "somewhere" to which I think I would not have gone without a specific crystal. It's because it was said about this crystal to 'do so' (and it supposedly did).

Of course, you still can run without all of this anyway and get wonderful results and all you need. Maybe (I don't know that's why I say maybe) you are already using your nonphysical muscles (= chakras, energy bodies or the like) anyway like a professional sports student does, yet the athlete does it knowingly, you do it unconsciously. Results may vary (if the athlete can optimise his muscles / chakras by training or 'pimp' them with steroids / crystals) or be the same. Try it out. If it helps, use it. If it's not your pair of shoes that fits, don't put it on, but I always would recommend at least to try them on once or more often (for a wider sample) and then make a decision based on your (personal!) data.

[desert-rat]

p.s. http://www.thatcrystalsite.com/forum/index.php      http://www.healingcrystals.com/forum/
There are more that are easy to find .  

[Bedeekin]

What is your opinion respectively of those athletes who run with or without using the up-to-date scientific knowledge of modern sports science or the newest / best running shoe currently on the market?

So yes: You can run with or without the tools or knowledge, they are just tools / knowledge that might help you getting faster to where you want to go, or maybe get to 'places' or states where you would (maybe) not go if without. I can attest to that. Recently I did get to "somewhere" to which I think I would not have gone without a specific crystal. It's because it was said about this crystal to 'do so' (and it supposedly did).

Of course, you still can run without all of this anyway and get wonderful results and all you need. Maybe (I don't know that's why I say maybe) you are already using your nonphysical muscles (= chakras, energy bodies or the like) anyway like a professional sports student does, yet the athlete does it knowingly, you do it unconsciously. Results may vary (if the athlete can optimise his muscles / chakras by training or 'pimp' them with steroids / crystals) or be the same. Try it out. If it helps, use it. If it's not your pair of shoes that fits, don't put it on, but I always would recommend at least to try them on once or more often (for a wider sample) and then make a decision based on your (personal!) data.

Nice answer... to 'pimp' out your intent. 

Seriously.. nice answer.

Thanks Desert-rat.

[LoLmart]

Well... you already have them in your brain! lol

Yes, but as science has shown - crystals amplify the energy of the body A LOT. Especially when it is well embedded and treated by someone who knows how to do it. Yogis have praised crystals for many many decades and there is a reason for it. Now science proves it. I am not using crystals but I will probably start.

[Bedeekin]

Cool... Show me the science. I want to see it.

[LoLmart]

I gave you a couple of leads already in my first post in this thread.

[Bedeekin]

The David Sereda videos? lol He's a UFO investigator and not exactly one of the most... respected ones at that. Sorry.

I meant the actual science that claims that "crystals amplify the energy of the body A LOT."

I think that it's much more fascinating that we have Calcite crystals in the pineal gland... again... IN THE PINEAL GLAND... that they are arranged Piezoelectrically.. that they are responsive to electromagnetic energy and that Piezoelectric effect is related to sonar and radar. On top of that they glow green.

[LoLmart]

The David Sereda videos? lol He's a UFO investigator and not exactly one of the most... respected ones at that. Sorry.

I meant the actual science that claims that "crystals amplify the energy of the body A LOT."

I think that it's much more fascinating that we have Calcite crystals in the pineal gland... again... IN THE PINEAL GLAND... that they are arranged Piezoelectrically.. that they are responsive to electromagnetic energy and that Piezoelectric effect is related to sonar and radar. On top of that they glow green.

David Sereda is a Quantum Physicist, an inventor, UFO researcher, life-long meditator, ecologist, has patents for numerous innovative technologies, expert on Sacred Geometry and Electromagnetic flow of the Plasma Field that penetrates everything and an expert on Phasing. The guy is extremely smart and is well known in all these fields and one of the most respected guys. Have done numerous documentaries, is friends with many scientists and researchers who can testify for his brilliance and you can search on his websites for some good science to back himself up. You can also buy a device like the one on the vid and perform some simple experiments with crystals. It really isn't some difficult thing to understand. Crystals store information and amplify energy. It is a well known fact. Just find a radio and break it down. What do you find? Quartz. Why? To tune in to different frequencies. The same way you tune in to certain brainwaves when you want to AP or just meditate. Different chakras have different frequency charateristics because of the crystals within the glands that they are corresponding to. Break down a computer. What do you find? Millions of different crystals. What do you find in the body? Crystals. Why? For the same reason. What happens when crystals touch the skin and react with your aura and bodily energy - they amplify it. 1+1=2. Buy a crystal, buy a device to measure your bodily voltage and test it. Simple.

[Bedeekin]

Sereda isn't a quantum physicist... he's interested in quantum physics... He's never wrote a paper nor is he a member of the scientific community. He hasn't got a doctorate nor any qualifications pertaining to the field of Quantum physics. You are trying to convince the wrong person about this guy.

I watched his video "Evidence, The Case For NASA UFOs."... it was good.. not amazing. Yes he planted a million trees and researches clean energy and he's an all over great guy to boot... but he's just theorising like most of us.

aaanyway... apart from that you don't find quartz in a 'crystal radio' you find 'Galena'. And Crystal radios aren't any old radio... they are specifically called crystal radios. We use diodes these days... which are much better and more reliable. The Galena crystal looks like coal which is basically lead sulphide... or ore of lead... other crystalline minerals used in crystal radios are zinc , bornite and carborundum (which is used on sandpaper.) This is why I turned off when watching the videos posted. Already he was claiming something that just wasn't true. Do a little research. I mean all this in a nice way and am just trying to educate you.

The other crystals in glands are Tyrosine crystals in the spit (salivary) glands and waxy urea crystals in the kidneys which are essentially condensed urine. I cant see how these relate. I am so sorry. I claimed that I wasn't out to dismiss crystals and the use of them spiritually... I wasn't and I'm not.. .but then this came along which needs clarifying. I can't just let you keep on thinking that radios contain quartz. Bad science and ignorance doesn't prove crystal use in the field of OOBEs. There must be other reasons because this is ridiculous.

I mean... Why would crystals amplify crystals? scientifically that doesn't make sense.

I think there is probably a deeper nonphysical/spiritual reason. I think Volgerie nailed it without using silly science.

[Dreamshards]

Just from my personal experiences and observations: any object can be used to hold energy (good or bad). People often use crystals but I do not think it is the crystal amplifying your energy. We put so much energy into one object so it isn't so surprising that we can come back to the same object later on and access that power. It is really what works for an individual, and it's not much different from say a child and his teddy bear. After nights and nights of cuddling and putting loving energy into their stuffed animal, the animal is going to have an amplified energy of comfort for the child. I believe this theory can describe why crystals and other stones feel as if they have a magickal power, because we are the ones who put that intent into it in the first place.

[LoLmart]

aaanyway... apart from that you don't find quartz in a 'crystal radio' you find 'Galena'. And Crystal radios aren't any old radio... they are specifically called crystal radios. We use diodes these days... which are much better and more reliable. The Galena crystal looks like coal which is basically lead sulphide... or ore of lead... other crystalline minerals used in crystal radios are zinc , bornite and carborundum (which is used on sandpaper.) This is why I turned off when watching the videos posted. Already he was claiming something that just wasn't true. Do a little research. I mean all this in a nice way and am just trying to educate you.

Crystal radio? Never used that term in my posts. Just said that there are quartz crystals in radios and there are generally crystals in all kinds of electronic devices. Here is the quote from my post:

"Just find a radio and break it down. What do you find? Quartz. Why? To tune in to different frequencies." No crystal radio mentioned .

So, is there quartz in radios as I stated? LoL, of course yes, that's A, B, C... of radios

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:WUdy4hkl7-cJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_oscillator+quartz+in+radio&cd=1&hl=bg&ct=clnk&gl=bg

"A crystal oscillator is an electronic oscillator circuit that uses the mechanical resonance of a vibrating crystal of piezoelectric material to create an electrical signal with a very precise frequency. This frequency is commonly used to keep track of time (as in quartz wristwatches), to provide a stable clock signal for digital integrated circuits, and to stabilize frequencies for radio transmitters and receivers. The most common type of piezoelectric resonator used is the quartz crystal, but other piezoelectric materials including polycrystaline ceramics are used in similar circuits.

Quartz crystals are manufactured for frequencies from a few tens of kilohertz to tens of megahertz. More than two billion crystals are manufactured annually. Most are used for consumer devices such as wristwatches, clocks, radios, computers, and cellphones. Quartz crystals are also found inside test and measurement equipment, such as counters, signal generators, and oscilloscopes."

Educate me some more . Seriously, I can't believe I have to argue about something as basic as "are there quartz crystals in radios". This is below my level. I am not gonna lose more of my time to explain basic things. "Educate" someone else.   I mean all this in a nice way.

[Bedeekin]

my bad!! 

I thought there were only crystals in crystal radios. Oh well.... I was wrong. Absolute fail.

I still however can't relate the crystals in radios to the minerals in the human body.

[LoLmart]

never even heard of crystal radios. Do they look like crystal skulls?

[Bedeekin]

They actually look very retro and steampunk.