The purpose of Human Sacrifices

[no_leaf_clover]

i wont respond to the rest of your post because of what you stated that you DIDN'T want to hear, but i will ask a question about what you said about the ancients..

quote:Originally posted by Tyler

Could it be that during physical destruction of someone's body, torture or anything like Aztecs or Egyptians did (tear out organs one by one so that the victim could see it) releases something else, perhaps this etheric matter for some entities?

i can't say anything about the aztecs (i only remember that one of the mesoamerican civilizations offered sacrifices to the gods by throwing people into volcanoes), but i think egypt was a little more humane and civilized than that, but i could be wrong. where are your sources for this information?

[Tyler]

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[no_leaf_clover]

a lifetime research isn't a source []

i know of the egyptian origins, and how egyptian civilization was set up by aliens, but the aliens were from within our own solar system. those aliens, the annunaki, were of a gene from the sirius system. the annunaki helped create us, so we too are of a sirius gene. alien 'grays' are a devolved sirius life form, devolving from the time they've spent in space without a home world and gravity to effect their bodies. the few actual abductions the grays conducted were to extract our purer form of the sirius gene.

but though the grays may not care for our life and take our dna as they need it, the annunaki are similar to us. they see things democratically, but deep down they're good beings. seeing as how they set up egypt, i don't think they would do such cruel things to humans. should you want to have a shot at convincing me of such, i would need a few sources other than yourself.

have you ever read books by zecharia sitchin? this is the stuff he specializes in. he's researched HIS whole life, too, growing up in the ancient civilizations and learning their language, thus studying their ways of life and mythologies. he soon realized that their mythology was a bit more than fairy tales, and found incredible evidence for a 10th planet in our system, sumerian NI.BI.RU (nibiru: "planet of crossing"), and that the ancients had learned vast amounts of astronomical knowledge from these people, as well as how to operate governments, etc.

i uploaded a 2-part radio interview on the file library where art bell questions dr sitchin and asks him about his views on modern events. try giving it a listen. it's not even the tip of the iceberg, though, and it's important to remember that. in his books (The 12th Planet, Stairway to Heaven, The Wars of Gods and Men, The Lost Realms, The Cosmic Code, Genesis Revisisted, Divine Encounters, The Lost Book of Enki), sitchin goes into incredible detail and uses literally hundreds of sources from ancient texts that are viewable in museums today to treatises released in the last decade. his bibliography at the end of each book is usually about 5 or 6 pages long (front and back) at least, and the books have very small print. the only thing sitchin does with his sources is tie them together, report them, and then show how they all, without exception, point to the fact that we are not alone. his ideas and theories are more solid than ANY modern theory on the exact same subjects.

he's a good man.

[Nay]

I may be a simpleton to ya'all, but here is my thoughts.

I think from the first humans on Earth, there have been those who love to cause pain and kill.  To make it acceptable to the masses, they did so in the name of so called Religions or spitual gain.  They had to think of something, because they just couldn't go around killing people cause they got a thrill, they had to have a more acceptable excuse.  

And the release of the etheric energy when one dies by natural causes or murder, goes back to where it originated from. (which I happen to believe is...God) not to some freak whom decided to kill me.


My thoughts, Nay.

[Tisha]

Hi - - - gotta be quick on this but I think this topic is fascinating.

The purpose of human sacrifice is actually quite simple.  It was done all over the place - - - druids, aztecs, greeks, romans, egyptians, jews/arabs . . . etc etc etc . . . anywhere tribal peoples were in intimate contact with the life/death cycles of the earth.  

The people were just doing their part in the life/death drama, equating the activities of the Tribe to the hunting cycle . . . then, as the Tribes evolved, to the agrigultural cycle.  People had to do their part to keep the World balanced, to mimic the same life cycles of the animals and the grain.  Just look the cults of Mithra, Adonis, Isis/Astarte and their lover/sons, etc.  Death feeds on life.  Life feeds on death.  And so on.

Sacrifice eventually became a way for a tribe to atone for its sins. At some point, it became associated with redemption. Periodically, a human being took the rap on behalf of the whole tribe.  Eventually humans decided it was okay to let a goat (or some other animal) take the rap. Then Jesus supposedly took the rap for everyone. Part of the whole point of the Jesus cult was to make Jesus the final sacrifice, so it never needed to be done again.  

As people became more urban, and less connected with the rhythms of the animals and the earth, the practice became less popular . . . although it persisted in remote areas long after it became illegal in the cities.

The practice of human sacrifice is (remotely) connected to witch trials and executions.  One or more poor souls takes the rap on behalf of an entire community.  The community projects its collective guilt on them, and then takes them out using whatever method popular at the time. Then the community feels redeemed, and goes on with its business.

One might also argue that the Death Sentence is a vestige of the practice of human sacrifice.  Interesting theory, but I haven't mulled over it too much.

How this earthly activity equates to Astral activity . . . I can only imagine that the Cycle of Life/Death and Condemnation/Redemption is playing out up there too, in accordance with the First Hermetic Law.

Interesting topic.

[Tisha]

At the same time, Something Out There is feeding off etheric matter.  But it's not only the released energy of sacrificed peoples.  It feeds on love, too.  I don't know why.  But whatever energy we're putting out, Some Thing likes or needs to feed on it.  I don't know if it's a "Neg."   I mean, Things need to eat too, does that make It bad?

Someone please OBE and come back with an answer to this question, I've not been able to OBE lately, so I'm "grounded," can't help on this question, sorry!

Perhaps it's related to the Life/Death cycle?  Could it be as simple as that!

[Tyler]

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[Tisha]

Um . . . sorry Tyler, but if all of my research on this topic has been academic, vice mystical.  I confess that since my university work on human relationships (an actual field, don't laugh), I've been a voracious dilettante, moving from one topic to another, fascinated in particular by the behaviors and relationships of tribal peoples in pre-Christian societies, mostly Mediterranean, Celtic, Nordic, and pre-Celtic.   My theories about human sacrifice aren't really "my" theories; they've been accepted as academically sound.  

I could go into it ad nauseum; however, I was in a bit of a hurry.  Folks probably didn't want a whole thesis  - - - this is not the place for it, because, as we all know, this is a MYSTICALLY-oriented website, where we spout our theories based upon wisdom gleaned from new-age and religious texts, science fiction novels, ill-advised attempts at enlightenment via drugs, new-age websites, gut feelings, speculation, and SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES, ACTUAL MYSTICAL EXPERIENCE, all of which are most interesting!  I throw myself in with the lot; I spout theories based upon all these things too; I've allowed it ALL to color my world view.  So I try not to judge other people's world views too harshly.  

The fact remains - - - and the mystery remains - - - that several people who spend time on the Astral report plenty of devouring activity on the part of either one entity or several.  No one really knows the reason for this.  It is quite probable that an awful lot of EVERYTHING is happening on the Astral, for a variety of reasons.  Unfortunately, all of our human theories on the matter are very, well, human and fallible, because we are human and fallible, trying to understand the 4th dimension from the realms of the 3rd. We're bound to get it wrong.

So, please, put your ego away, don't hurt my friends feelings by presenting your theories as facts and dismissing other people's ideas as inferior. It's a disturbing trend I see in several of your posts . . . sometimes your posts sound snotty: they leave a smeary mess on my computer screen every time I have the urge to reply to you; I have to wipe it away to see to type.   Your ideas are valuable and interesting, but please accept that your theories are theories, not facts, and you'll be much more fun to be around.

[no_leaf_clover]

just thought i'd add that youre ideas about horus are a little off. your source for those ideas must've been some uninformed 'the end is near' cult, or some site similar to zeta talk. horus was once a living human being like everyone else and then he died.. he was descended directly from an annunaki leader, sumerian enki (EN.KI: lord of earth), egyptian 'Ptah', and therefore of 'divine blood', but he was not at all evil and he died and ascended to heaven (not christian heaven, by the way). he isn't still hanging around being involved in conspiricitical activies with the nazis, etc...

the fact that a bird of prey symbolized a god is nothing special.. such birds of prey (eagles, hawks, etc.) have been used throughout history. the bald eagle is the official bird of the U.S., and you can trace the history of that back to colonial times. nothing conspiricitical there. the nazis used it, so what? so do we! the characteristics of such birds are why we use them to symbolize such majestic or important things. ancient civilizations didn't use a hawk to explicitly symbolize horus and his conspiracy for immortality or any such thing..

there was a 'winged globe', a picture of a firey planet that had wings with feathers, and sometimes, in a more formal form, two snakes hanging from the globe in the center. i think that's where you're confusing the ancient bird. the winged globe was used abundantly by the sumerians, chaldeans, babylonians, assyrians, indians, egyptians, romans, greeks, persians, olmecs, aztecs, mayans, hittites, and others. but this represented the 10th planet in our solar system, nibiru, and this can be proven, if you trace its roots back to sumeria and discover what the sumerians used it to symbolize in their epics and daily life. it was used from then on up until the middle ages, when we went back and started thinking for ourselves again, instead of relying on the wisdom of the ancients. this (along with the catholic church) was the downfall of many very accurate belief systems and teachings from ancient times. if the catholic church had spread to china and japan, we probably wouldn't even take buddhism seriously today, as the majority of people here in the western hemisphere don't.

ever since the renaissance (sp?) greek mythology, etc., has been viewed as nonsense/stupid, and therefore ancient people have a sort of 'primitive' feeling for most people, even though we, to this very day, cannot explain why, or even HOW, they did many of the things they did (ie, the great pyramids, which were *supposively* built by the egyptians).

so.. maybe there's something in that.. i know it doesn't answer your question, but i hope you'll reconsider your beliefs on horus.

[Tyler]

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[Nerezza]

[no_leaf_clover]

quote:Don't go teaching ME. No i didn't read my info about horus on a zeta, site, i've met horus you daft bonk and that's how i know.

i apologize, i wasn't aware of your complete brilliance until you called me a 'daft bonk'! [] 'horus' must have taught you a lot!

if anything such thing happens this summer, it would be totally predictable from all the negative energy streaming backwards. i've yet to hear anything like that. i've also yet to astral project myself, so naturally that isn't my 'area'. music and history are more my interests.

if we are unfortunate enough for such a terrible event to take place, it will have nothing to do with horus, i promise. horus is dead and has ascended []. your offshoot ideas of 'horus' are nonsense. horus would be no such negative, energy-harvesting being; he was human/annunaki. probably some neg screwing with your mind if you truly believe such things. i have pity on you.

[no_leaf_clover]

eh.. i should've read the angels/cheeky bastards post before coming here. i wouldve saved myself some trouble.

this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. he's probably 10 or 11 years old, which might explain why his 'lifetime' of research has left him with such nonsense ideas. he believes in cthulhu mythos related ideas, and i think thats what this post has to do with. the cthulhu mythos was started by howard phillip lovecraft, or HPL. it's science fiction/horror. none of it's true. if you're heard of cthulhu, dagon, the necronomicon, fish people living under the sea, etc., that's what this is.

it's good reading when you're up for some weird horror stories, but, like i said, total fiction..

[Tyler]

"if such thing happens this summer, it would be totally predictable from all the negative energy streaming backwards"

energy streaming ... backwards? that's a good one [] did you learn that at your musical and history classes?

[no_leaf_clover]

no, its actually pretty well-known. people can sense major devastation as it nears because of all the sorrow and negative energy flowing immensely from it in ways you probably wouldnt understand []

[Tyler]

hehehe


donate your brain to a science of your choice, i recommend neurology...

[no_leaf_clover]

congrats! that was actually pretty smart of you to remove all of your posts like that, and i'm not being sarcastic []

[warlockyoshi]

THis is odd I cannot read tyler's posts.

[no_leaf_clover]

he deleted them all. he was just rambling on about how demons were in a big conspiracy and were using mass deaths to draw energy and become immortal or some crap like that, even though whoever he was talking about was already dead. then he started saying things about mass destruction coming in the future.. he was being really offensive towards his replies, and when he started getting flak he deleted them. thats about it.

[Tyler]

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