I was thinking about this topic for some time and I'm finding it difficult to come up with a satisfactory explanation other than, It's just fun!
I reckon it's similar to exploration. Man has always felt the need to explore new worlds and civilizations. Perhaps Astral Travel is just an extension of those desires. Maybe it's the desire to learn more about ourselves or the human condition.
What do you think?
i started trying it because i wanted proof for it. now that i had proof i want to explore. it is a new world that opens up for you and of course it is fun!
My wife had a few OBEs long before I ever had one. I believed her but, it wasn't until I experienced one myself that I got caught up in it.
After my first, my second came almost a year later and that's when I got serious about it. Now my goal is to have one at least once a week if not more!
Exploration is the big one. I'm curious. It feels good, too ... at least, most of the pre-OBE sensations do. It's neat to think I could leave my body and go places I couldn't normally go (maybe see what some of those deep-sea fish look like?) ... and even in ordinary locations, there's always things visible to you that you wouldn't normally see.
I've always wanted to try to verification thing, but it seems every time I try to do it, I can't get out.
Lately, though, I've found the (so far) most effective practice yet. It's kind of premature to make any statements so far, but both sessions resulted in parts of my body getting out, deep trance, energy sensations, etc. Yesterday, I got into a deep trance fast, then felt my energy body getting sucked under the bed toes-first ... a really powerful sensation. Then I snapped back, so fast that my legs in the physical jumped a few inches off the bed. It was neat.
Anyway, the practice is pretty simple: I lay on my back, arms to the side, put on the headphones and listen to "Boxed Nirvana II" (this entrainment for some reason works really well for me). I try a mantra (thanks, Job, for the post on this) ... my mantra, however, goes like this: "Blah blah blahblahblah blah, blah blah blah. Blah blahblahblah blah." (I tried "O", but it didn't work as well). It's like I'm saying the monkey chatter that's normally there, except I'm just cancelling it out and saying "blah". I keep the back of my mind focused on saying it, and it works very well for keeping my awareness into mind-awake-body-asleep.
I'm feeling very enthusiastic about this.
I think your goal, jub jub, is definitely realistic. I'm fairly certain you can achieve it. Then we can all go meet Tvos and Selski for treacle tarts!
Quote from: mactombsmy mantra, however, goes like this: "Blah blah blahblahblah blah, blah blah blah. Blah blahblahblah blah."
Biggest laugh of the year - thanks!
Quote from: mactombsThen we can all go meet Tvos and Selski for treacle tarts!
Even bigger laugh - more thanks!
Sarah
When you listen to boxed nirvana 2, do you leave it playing in your ears through the whole OBE? and can you hear it when you are projecting?
QuoteTreacle Tart Recipe
A very sweet, very comforting tart. Do try to locate the Golden Syrup required for it.
I had to google that one! Never heard of such a treat.
I'm with Selski on your mantra mactombs! Very thought provoking! lol
I'm going to have to try the Boxed Nirvana II. At the moment though, I'm having good success by waking myself at 4:30 am. I meditate/phase until I see the "purple blob" and then I go back to sleep. Just when I attain the body fully asleep mode, along come the vibes and voila, I'm out!
I've been successful two nights in a row using this method so the jury is still out, but so far this method is showing promise!
QuoteWhen you listen to boxed nirvana 2, do you leave it playing in your ears through the whole OBE? and can you hear it when you are projecting?
Yeah, I leave it on the whole time. I've never noticed the entrainment going when I've even been in deep trances ... I just feel really heavy, cozy, expansive ...
Recently I went on a hike I go on every summer up and around a waterfall. If you asked me if I noticed the waterfall sound the whole time, I wouldn't even think of it. Only when am I trying to notice it, then it comes back into my attention. So, no, I don't worry about entrainment being intrusive to my experience. If it became so, then I might just turn it off.
I love the purple blob!
It never even occurred to me that my mantra was funny ... I just started it after reading Job's post about the "O" and when I was annoyed about the monkey chatter in my mind. I guess it is pretty silly - but for me it really works. I guess it's just part of that learning-to-find-your-own-way?
How do we find this Golden Syrup? Is there a map, mayhaps, were there be dragons? It's like the modern Golden Fleece!
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How do we find this Golden Syrup? Is there a map, mayhaps, were there be dragons? It's like the modern Golden Fleece!
Maybe if we sweet talk Seski, she can turn us on to some! :bouncy:
mactombs, this should be your emoicon (smile) :blahblah:
The ol purple blob. I suppose it's the crown chakra, I'm not really sure, but when I see it I know good things are going to happen! :grin:
You mean to say you don't have treacle or syrup in your country?
And you Americans loving all those sweet things. I was going to post a recipe for treacle tart in Astral Chat, but that would be pointless if you can't get the ingredients!
You poor poor things. It's one of my favourite desserts - especially with ice cream. Yum Yum. :grin:
Do a search for Lyons Golden Syrup. Lyons also do treacle. I wonder if you can get it shipped out there. It comes in tins so it would be secure. Perhaps I will post that recipe...
Sarah
Well, my first attemps had been motivated by curiosity. Then after that, it would happen automatically at any given point, it did not seem I was trying or in any control of it.
Now I cannot do it anymore...but desperately want to. I want to escape these confines sometimes and I believe that is precisely why I can no longer do it. My intentions are to escape the pain that my body suffers. I'm only 21 and my body is wracked with multiple, painful chronic conditions. The greater part of each month, I battle my illnesses.
That is why I want to leave it now, more than ever before...just somtimes would be good enough.
Quote from: AstirWell, my first attemps had been motivated by curiosity. Then after that, it would happen automatically at any given point, it did not seem I was trying or in any control of it.
Now I cannot do it anymore...but desperately want to. I want to escape these confines sometimes and I believe that is precisely why I can no longer do it. My intentions are to escape the pain that my body suffers. I'm only 21 and my body is wracked with multiple, painful chronic conditions. The greater part of each month, I battle my illnesses.
That is why I want to leave it now, more than ever before...just somtimes would be good enough.
I can understand your need to escape. There is nothing worse then having to endure chronic pain. My mother had chronic pain and she took narcotics to help alleviate it. It was difficult to watch her deteriorate before my eyes.
I don't know what to say except maybe you should try some prayer and meditation. I've had several chronic diseases in my life that have miraculously disappeared because I meditated and prayed over them and asked them to leave. You have to be persistent though and have great will and determination but anything is possible. You shape your reality!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. :smiling9:
I do think I need to practice meditation, just to improve my wellbeing overall...though I actually have had more trouble with it than with OBEs. Not entirely sure why. I think I need direction probably. I'm currently asking around in my social circles for instruction. I can't help but feel a little foolish, that I cannot figure it out on my own.
As for prayer. I do, seldom. But I have trouble praying on my own behalf. I like to think I can solve all my own problems...when clearly I cannot! lol *sigh*
Quote from: AstirThank you for sharing your thoughts. :smiling9:
I do think I need to practice meditation, just to improve my wellbeing overall...though I actually have had more trouble with it than with OBEs. Not entirely sure why. I think I need direction probably. I'm currently asking around in my social circles for instruction. I can't help but feel a little foolish, that I cannot figure it out on my own.
As for prayer. I do, seldom. But I have trouble praying on my own behalf. I like to think I can solve all my own problems...when clearly I cannot! lol *sigh*
Hope you don't mind if I ask you a question. Do you dwell on your illnesses?
Of course :redface:
But usually after a full week of crap, I kind of get used to it. Half of each month I am usually alright...I can't even remember how terrible the pain was the last time. The half that I am in agony, I can barely remember what it's like to feel just alright. Every time it returns (the pain) I am utterly blown away and fail to make it out of bed some days...which negatively impacts me further due to the nature of my other conditions..