So the last time I had an OBE was a couple of weeks ago and I thought "cool i might be having OBE's more frequently now" but nothing since then. I usually don't get any vibrations or practice any complex technique, I just focus on the blackness when I close my eyes and when it does happen it starts very quick but it seems now it is very random. Its like someone saying "ok you'll have one today'.
In the last OBE my awareness seemed to be very good, It's like it's getting better every time but the frequency it seems is not as often as I would like it to be.
Is your progress gradual or ups and downs.
Thanks
quite sporadic indeed.
Yep. It seems for many that it comes in spurts.
Wow someone was listening or something. I went home and sat on the couch, I drifted off again watching the blackness and all of a sudden I saw this sphere made up of very tiny particles and it was just suspended in the blackness when all of a sudden it changed to a female figure still made up of tiny particles particles, I just say female because that is what I sensed, the figure was just there doing nothing when all of a sudden it it leaned down as if she was about to pick up something and a few seconds later it dematerialized and it dissapeared.
It was pretty cool
QuoteIts like someone saying "ok you'll have one today'.
Thats what its like for me.
I've stopped trying all the time. I pretty much only make an attempt now if I get a feeling that I should. I somehow just know when I'll be successfull. Progress is still frustratingly slow and the frequency hasnt really gone up but my success rate must be up to like eighty percent.
I had a string of OBE's for 3 days in a row and on the 4th a lucid dream. I thought it was so easy and had no doubt the next morning I would have another one. I havn't had one in like 4+ months now since those 3.
Quote from: blis on November 19, 2010, 15:12:35
Thats what its like for me.
I've stopped trying all the time. I pretty much only make an attempt now if I get a feeling that I should. I somehow just know when I'll be successfull. Progress is still frustratingly slow and the frequency hasnt really gone up but my success rate must be up to like eighty percent.
Hi All: Robert Bruce suggest the sustaining o.b.e.'s is a matter of building psychic energy... that is why he emphazises energy work... but also to keep the o.b.e.'s short to get used to the state... just a thought.
S.
Quote from: Seraphis1 on November 19, 2010, 21:31:17
Hi All: Robert Bruce suggest the sustaining o.b.e.'s is a matter of building psychic energy... that is why he emphazises energy work... but also to keep the o.b.e.'s short to get used to the state... just a thought.
S.
Excerpted from Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce....
Sub-navel
Position: Midway between bellybutton and pubic line, two inches inside average body
Function: Raw physical vitality energy storage
Sub-heart
Position: Center of chest, at base of sternum, two inches inside average body
Function: Raw emotional energy storage
Sub-brow
Position: Between eye-socket ridges in center of brow, just inside skull
Function: Raw mental and psychic energy storage
Br
S.
And I wholeheartedly disagree with that opinion.
I reckon energy definately has something to do with it but it's not the whole picture(at least not in the Robert Bruce sense anyway). I've spent whole days energy raising to see if it made a difference and it didnt.
Quote from: blis on November 20, 2010, 03:39:41
I reckon energy definately has something to do with it but it's not the whole picture(at least not in the Robert Bruce sense anyway). I've spent whole days energy raising to see if it made a difference and it didnt.
Hi blis: were you filling the storage areas?
S.
Quote from: Xanth on November 19, 2010, 23:35:33
And I wholeheartedly disagree with that opinion.
Hi Xanth: Are you going to explain why... ?? It isn't enough just to disagree don't you think... don't you need to have a basis for the disagreement to be taken seriously??
S.
Quote from: Seraphis1 on November 20, 2010, 04:08:32
Hi blis: were you filling the storage areas?
Yeah, I used to spend at least an hour a day raising energy. At first I was just sending it to the sub-navel storage centre like RB said but sometimes when raising large amounts of energy I would feel it start to travel upwards towards my heart space and then to the brow one. I found I can start it going to my sub-navel and then split my awareness to the sub-heart and it will travel through the first to the second. I havent spent much time sending energy to my sub-brow though so maybe that would help.
I dont do a lot of evergy raising these days but I do alot more chakra work, it seems more important to me.
Quote from: blis on November 20, 2010, 05:46:36
Yeah, I used to spend at least an hour a day raising energy. At first I was just sending it to the sub-navel storage centre like RB said but sometimes when raising large amounts of energy I would feel it start to travel upwards towards my heart space and then to the brow one. I found I can start it going to my sub-navel and then split my awareness to the sub-heart and it will travel through the first to the second. I havent spent much time sending energy to my sub-brow though so maybe that would help.
I dont do a lot of evergy raising these days but I do alot more chakra work, it seems more important to me.
Hi Blis: Since the brow storage is where the psychic energy needs to be (according to Bruce) and you seem to have stopped filling it... does there seem to be any problem remaining o.b.e. for any length of time??? because that is the issue... is psychic energy what is need to stay out... the other issue... I get the impression that the problem is really in remaining in the rtz... rather than phasing through into the larger astral, focus 21 and above... S.
Quote from: Seraphis1 on November 20, 2010, 08:59:09
Hi Blis: Since the brow storage is where the psychic energy needs to be (according to Bruce) and you seem to have stopped filling it... does there seem to be any problem remaining o.b.e. for any length of time??? because that is the issue... is psychic energy what is need to stay out... the other issue... I get the impression that the problem is really in remaining in the rtz... rather than phasing through into the larger astral, focus 21 and above... S.
Yes, you are correct, I struggle to stay in the rtz for more than a minute or so. RB managed to scare me off filling my sub-brow centre directly as I am prone to psychically related mental health problems and I havent really been able to consiously split my awareness three ways to draw energy up through the centres to my sub-brow to any great effect. The couple of times it happened were just automatic, I wasnt trying to do anything but fill my sub-navel. I should probably put more effort into it.
I suppose you could be right, like I'm just naturally building up energy until I intuatively know that I have enough to project. I then manage to get out but for no length of time because I just barely have enough energy to get out.
As a one off test I'll send a stupid amount of energy straight to my sub-brow storage centre before I go to bed and then attempt an obe in the night. I'll see if it makes any difference.
Quote from: blis on November 20, 2010, 09:51:49
Yes, you are correct, I struggle to stay in the rtz for more than a minute or so. RB managed to scare me off filling my sub-brow centre directly as I am prone to psychically related mental health problems and I havent really been able to consiously split my awareness three ways to draw energy up through the centres to my sub-brow to any great effect. The couple of times it happened were just automatic, I wasnt trying to do anything but fill my sub-navel. I should probably put more effort into it.
I suppose you could be right, like I'm just naturally building up energy until I intuatively know that I have enough to project. I then manage to get out but for no length of time because I just barely have enough energy to get out.
As a one off test I'll send a stupid amount of energy straight to my sub-brow storage centre before I go to bed and then attempt an obe in the night. I'll see if it makes any difference.
Hi Blis: Yes Bruce recommends allowing the sub-brow to fill through trickle up accumulation... that is the best policy since you say you are susceptible to mental health issues (just as Bruce warns) if you fill do it top down. Keep us informed. S.
R Bruce also mentions the full-body-bounce or just bouncing energy up-and-down your spine. I guess bouncing means a smaller risk of overfilling the fore-head chakra?
Bouncing isn't for 'filling', it's for 'stimulating', so it'd help if your using some storage method on your lower tantien, and letting it 'trickle up', as it was previously mentioned.
Plus the full body circuit does stimulate the upper chakras (all of them, actually) without filling the upper storage centers.