Why is OBE Important to You?

[manuel]

To me, they alow me to see other realities, other dimensions, other beings, it's a mind blowing experience.

[gerble king]

It is important to me because during an OBE I remember why I am here, and that everything is OK and as it should be.  That my failures are really just learning experiences and they are actually positive.

[Euphoric Sunrise]

Well i haven't OBEd yet, but i can tell you why learning to is important to me.
It's important to me because just realising that it is possible to travel to other dimensions, and, in fact, just realising that there are other dimensions has brought new meaning to my life.
Before i started learning of OBE and the likes, i had always thought life was just being there and doing stuff and then dying. Sure, i had vague thoughts of things like this, but i had never given it serious thought.
Now, with the realisation of other dimensions, i am determined to travel to those dimensions and discover secrets.
It's just so fascinating that i can't sit by and think it would be cool to be able to it. I just HAVE to do it.

[KP]

I love the exploration aspect of it.  Nothing beats new experiences and suprises.  It's also a great way for me to tackle a lot of my fears for example it is helping me to overcome my fear of death.

[quant]

Achieving it marks a milestone in your spiritual growth.

[Dog Faced Liar]

When I can Obe better, it will be a chance (or another chance) to learn and teach. What I have to offer

Why is it important to you? What does fides quaerens intellectum mean?

[Person]

At first, it was a free plane ticket to meet my internet chat friends.
Then, it was my ultimate dream - a way for my daydreams/dreamlife to be real.  The song with the lyrics "I'm dreaming my life away" had bothered me before.
And always, an escape from this reality to a better one.

[PeacefulWarrior]

To me, the out-of-body experience is important for many reasons (to name only a few):

1) It proves we are indeed eternal beings with a spirit body
2) It allows us to see more of reality
3) Like "waking life", there are infinite lessons to be learned
4) It opens our "eyes"
5) It's...cool!

"fides quaerens intellectum"- is a Latin phrase that basically means, "Faith comes before knowledge".  This means a lot to me personally.  It reminds me of the concept that one has to walk a little farther out into the darkness/unknown before the light illuminates the path ahead...

[rodentmouse]

.....  because  i  am  an  artist/musician  and  the  potential  for  creativity  and  inspiration   (from  my  brief  experience  and  the  books  ive  read)   is  infinate.

when  i   learn  how  to project  at will,   i  want  to  express it  through  my  music  and  tell other people   about it,   in  the  hope  to make  it  a more mainstream concept  instead of  the  new-age  mumbo jumbo  most  people  think it is.

also,  to  harness  the  powers  we  are  born  with,   and  hopefully  "do  my  part"   for  the  evolution  of  man  as a species.

[What Tha Phak]

ahh, so many reasons, too many to say.  Just imagine the scientific breakthroughs that could (and secretly have) come out of this?  Imagine new scientific princibles, labled "Etherical Density Equations,"  or maybe a localized map of "zone 13, xrz999: 11-a" I cannot even begin to fathom the energetic/spiritual growth which developes from experience.  Travel to remote locations and seek answers to questions that no one on Earth can give you. Make new friends to go on adventures with, make enemies that you'd never want to lay eyes on again. The possibilies are endless.  It's up to you to decide why and how you are going to do it.[8]

[KP]

Mystery without fear is incredible.

[WayneStewart]

Hello all, An obe is important to me because it's like returning home(where ever that might be?) but I get the feeling that out there in the astral it is home.

[Lindasmith647]

OBEs are important to me because they represent freedom.  My main goal is to use OBE to leave this world - body and all.  I am not particularly fond of this material plane and plan on using OBE to leave (just like the naguals in the Carlos Castaneda books).  I also hope that OBE can make my life easier and more meaningful while I still am here.  Cheers  -  Linda.

[Nerezza]

I spent a year of trying for an obe before it actually happened, and when it did, I wished it hadn't. It =WAS= about finding the mystical in the mundane but after I finally achieved OBE, I realized it was more about proving something that I already knew, that there was a God.

Before that OBE, I would spend hours arguing on atheism messageboards about the existence of God. After the OBE, though my faith had strengthened, I didn't care about fighting with atheists anymore because it felt like I was arguing in favor of the obvious.

Now years after that one OBE, I can't seem to focus as much as I used to. I want to try again, but it doesn't seem as important anymore.

[cainam_nazier]

Simply to learn about myself.  

Growth in any aspect does not come from the outside, but from within.

[KP]

quote:Originally posted by Nerezza
after I finally achieved OBE, I realized it was more about proving something that I already knew, that there was a God.

How did you prove this?  I'd be interested to know.  Did you encounter god in your OBE?  Are you sure it was God?

[anteus]

I would like to write about why it is NOT IMPORTANT.
It seems to make me tired.
It requires energy.. Why waste energy on this?
Information can be obtained otherwise: through meditation/dreams/people.
It may pose risk. Why to take risks???

There are many dimension/layers of the everyday world as well, just often it is not noticed.
I am afraid of that it is often about trying to running away from this world.. Sort of escapism...
There are other ways of learning than OBE.
I can remember who I am without OBE.
I dont't think it marks particular markstone of grows.
If you cannot communicate in every world, why would you be able in the astral...

Home can be right here where I am (not just in far dimension who knows where)

Anteus

[Greytraveller]

OBE is important because I experience and interact with a greater extent of reality. Reality is the physical universe + The ethereal plane(s) + the astral planes(s) + ??.
    It seems obvious that entities on these 'higher' planes interact with mankind (ghosts, spirits, discarnates, etc). Unless an individual makes an effort to understand and interact with these beings then that individual will always be at a loss to control and comprehend reality.

[PeacefulWarrior]

I find Greytravellers reply very meaningful.  I too think we are lost without being in touch with the greater extent of reality.

[bindi]

If offers proof (to me anyway) that there is more to life than the square we live in...

Bindi

[What Tha Phak]

anteus-  

quote: I would like to write about why it is NOT IMPORTANT.
It seems to make me tired.
It requires energy.. Why waste energy on this?
Information can be obtained otherwise: through meditation/dreams/people.
It may pose risk. Why to take risks???

What makes you think you are wasting energy?  This ain't Dragonball Z!  If there is any kind of effect that OBE has, it would definately be the elevation of peak energy levels!  You might as well call meditation and dreaming pointless if your gonna cap on willful OBEs like that. Willful OBE is nothing more than higher conscious awareness attained through a trance, from, none other than.... meditation!  If you think information from your dreams and Earth's people is enough, then your missing out!  You are, pretty much, IN a dream state when this occures. Just imagine the unfathomable wisdom which you could only taste from a conversation with a higher intellect!  The only limitation is your own imagination.

quote:There are many dimension/layers of the everyday world as well, just often it is not noticed.
I am afraid of that it is often about trying to running away from this world.. Sort of escapism...
There are other ways of learning than OBE.
I can remember who I am without OBE.
I dont't think it marks particular markstone of grows.
If you cannot communicate in every world, why would you be able in the astral...

That is definately your way of looking at it.  Your "escapism" is my adventure!  Of course there are other ways of learning, other than OBE!  No one ever said "OBE is your only means of learning!"  There will always be a YOU, you should already know that, but it can definately change you...  You are respectively entitled to you own opinions, but I must argure when you deny it marking a milestone in your spiritual growth...  There are probably only a few thousand people on this entire planet that have put themselves through the rigorous self dicipline, masterful skill practices, and constant focus to free themselves from the confinements of their body, no... the physical plane, itself!  You are locked in until you either die, or become a free spirit...   But these are all only my opinions... I hope they have some meaning. [8]

[anteus]

quote:Originally posted by What Tha Phak

I find OBE dangerious...
Do you claim it is not dangerious???
What am I missing out??? Who knows??? But what have YOU gained through OBE???
What do you call OBE??? Close to physical universe "walks" or astral walks? OBE starting from dreamstate???
"Will" or control seems to be illusions.
Information content of OBE like dreams does not seem to be different from normal dreams.


"There are probably only a few thousand people on this entire planet that have put themselves through the rigorous self dicipline, masterful skill practices, and constant focus to free themselves from the confinements of their body, no... the physical
plane, itself"
Billions, ...everyone who dies is freed from the confinements...
But why does anyone have a body? Why were you born, if it is a confinement???
"free spirit" what is it??? Where would you be free??? Do you know what you are writing about???
Why do you think it is milestone??? How do you know it is not virtual reality??? and it does not tell you what comes after death.

Anteus

[What Tha Phak]

Anteus, you sure ask a lot of questions in one post!

quote:I find OBE dangerious...
Do you claim it is not dangerious???
What am I missing out??? Who knows??? But what have YOU gained through OBE???
What do you call OBE??? Close to physical universe "walks" or astral walks? OBE starting from dreamstate???
"Will" or control seems to be illusions.
Information content of OBE like dreams does not seem to be different from normal dreams

No, I am not claiming it is not dangerous, there are obviously meangingfully harmful entites out there in the vast universe that have negative intentions...  Just as it is equally the same in our world today.
Well, I would answer you are missing out on a lot, but on the other hand, you would not be missing out a single bit if you have the mentality to not want to go through with it, why would it even matter then? Yes, would call dreams miniature OBEs, you are, after all, in a self-created virtual reality...
You see will and control and mere illusions..? Tell me, if I were a terrorist and in the middle of a crowd of a hundred people and then using the bombs attached to my chest, blew my self up, killing 75 people and wounding the 25 others... would that be an illusion..? I don't think so.  Will is will and it's the truth.  Some people see God as the will to do anything at all.
Finishing off your last sentence, one might draw the conclusion that dreams and OBE are not that much different at all.  (what is a "normal dream?")

quote:Billions, ...everyone who dies is freed from the confinements...
But why does anyone have a body? Why were you born, if it is a confinement???
"free spirit" what is it??? Where would you be free??? Do you know what you are writing about???
Why do you think it is milestone??? How do you know it is not virtual reality??? and it does not tell you what comes after death.

Yes, I agree that everyone does and is freed of their physical confinements, but I was speaking of Willful Conscious Projecting.
Well, speaking of my own personal beliefs, I think everyone is re-incarnated with a physical body because our intelligence/awarness/inner, higher-self/consciousness must have some sort of physical vehicle to accomodate for its existance in the physical universe.  I can't answer the meaning of life.... but you can give your own reason and purpse for existance. Yes, I know what I am talking about.. do you?  I nickname a free spirit one who can leave the constraints of their body, willfully.
I think it is a definant milestone because... well just think about all the effort and focus you must go though to do this without the aid of psychedelic drugs (cheats)! Well, it in a sense kind of is a virtual reality, but not all of the astral is... The real time zone is absolutely not a virtual reality, nor are the kingdoms/civilizations/communities in the astral personal virtual realities.  OF COURE IT TELLS YOU THAT THERE IS LIFE AFTER DEATH! Experiencing and OBE would prove that your awareness can operate external of its physical (temperary) counterpart.

[Pandemonium]

OBEs are important to me because when I experiance an OBE I feel like I'm reconnected to something I've lost long ago. I simply feel OBEs are a part of me, something natural and beutifull.

[Pe-]

Hi, folks!

Once you opened the door of obes, there is no way back, you can not get enough of them. Could call it OBE-dependency [^]

Anteus, I think you are completely wrong.
> It seems to make me tired.
If you can reach trance state, you will have a good sleep,
8 hours of good and well resting sleep in 2 hours.

> It requires energy.. Why waste energy on this?
Yes, actually it does. But there is no limit of how much energy
you "waste". Here the "waste" word losts it's meaning.

> Information can be obtained otherwise: through meditation/dreams/people.
> It may pose risk. Why to take risks???
What risk are you talking about?
Risk of ascension? [!]

I think you are simply not as patient as to take the lectures []

Have you read Robert Monroe's books?
I am sure that there is nothing can tell you the way it works, because you are blind, and you don't even want to hear about sight.
I hope you know how I meant it.

You are right in one thing: it could be an escape - all time wondering on how to get out of the limits of the physical world. All of us have been out of this system for loooong times. Actually, there is no time, so the time word loses it's meaning, also ... []

Well, take care, and have a success with your life! [xx(]

Pe

P.s.: it was good to hear from a hungarian guy, but these thoughs lead you nowhere. If you allow me to tell you my opinion.