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Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences => Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! => Topic started by: Relinquish on March 28, 2016, 02:29:13

Title: Why no one has ever REALLY had an 'In Body Experience'.
Post by: Relinquish on March 28, 2016, 02:29:13
You are aware.

You perceive 'ever-changing form'.

You seem to be (or have) a particular body/mind. However, is this body/mind that you seem to be (or have) not, after all, just another part of the 'ever-changing form' that is 'perceived' by what You are?

Because 'ever-changing form' is 'the perceived', NO part of it at all (such as ANY body/mind, or ANY subpart or 'owner' thereof) can actually BE 'the perceiver' of it, that You are.

Have you, in all honesty, ever actually had even a single experience of 'the perceived' (including the particular body/mind that You seem to be or have) having any perception of it's own, of any kind at all?

Surely, all You know is Your own perception.

You, as a 'perceiver', are always already absolutely changeless and formless.

As such, in truth, You have no location or edge, and so You do not begin or end. You are infinite and eternal, as the One unthreatenable Emptiness itself.

You are Pure Awareness.

Peace.

:)
Title: Re: Why no one has ever REALLY had an 'In Body Experience'.
Post by: Xanth on March 28, 2016, 11:55:31
For the most part, yes.  :)
Title: Re: Why no one has ever REALLY had an 'In Body Experience'.
Post by: desert-rat on March 28, 2016, 13:49:10
If I understand what you are saying,it goes back to the phrase , I am not a human having a spiritual experience,I am a spiritual being having a human experience.
Title: Re: Why no one has ever REALLY had an 'In Body Experience'.
Post by: Szaxx on March 28, 2016, 15:03:00
What you describe relates well to an experience in the formless environments.  You simply are and a part of the whole, no beginning , no end.
Pure Conciousness.
Title: Re: Why no one has ever REALLY had an 'In Body Experience'.
Post by: Relinquish on March 28, 2016, 21:48:50
Quote from: Xanth on March 28, 2016, 11:55:31
For the most part, yes.  :)

Thanks for the reply, Xanth. Which part do you disagree with?
Title: Re: Why no one has ever REALLY had an 'In Body Experience'.
Post by: Relinquish on March 28, 2016, 21:59:19
Quote from: desert-rat on March 28, 2016, 13:49:10
If I understand what you are saying,it goes back to the phrase , I am not a human having a spiritual experience,I am a spiritual being having a human experience.

Pretty much, yeah. I would say, however, that a more accurate version of that phrase would be, "I am not a human being having a spiritual experience. I am THE Spiritual Being SEEMING to have a human experience."

Because ultimately, there is only ONE Spiritual Being.

:)
Title: Re: Why no one has ever REALLY had an 'In Body Experience'.
Post by: Xanth on March 28, 2016, 23:07:44
Quote from: Relinquish on March 28, 2016, 21:48:50
Thanks for the reply, Xanth. Which part do you disagree with?
Oh, nothing.  Just terminology and semantics.  :)
It's all good.
Title: Re: Why no one has ever REALLY had an 'In Body Experience'.
Post by: Relinquish on March 29, 2016, 01:35:43
Quote from: Xanth on March 28, 2016, 23:07:44
Oh, nothing.  Just terminology and semantics.  :)
It's all good.

Fair enough. I was hoping for a friendly disagreement that might have initiated a nice little experiential exploratory discourse. All good, though. If everyone's already on board, that's great. :)
Title: Re: Why no one has ever REALLY had an 'In Body Experience'.
Post by: Xanth on March 29, 2016, 03:21:49
Quote from: Relinquish on March 29, 2016, 01:35:43
Fair enough. I was hoping for a friendly disagreement that might have initiated a nice little experiential exploratory discourse. All good, though. If everyone's already on board, that's great. :)
Ok then, you suck.  Discuss.  ;)  hehe
Kidding.  :)
Title: Re: Why no one has ever REALLY had an 'In Body Experience'.
Post by: catmeow on March 30, 2016, 16:14:20
Sounds very much like solipsism to me.