Hello,
Yesterday I Woke up after 3:30H of sleep, go to bathroom, take 2 pills of galantamine.
and back to bed, I couldn't back to sleep, I stayed awake and roll over my body, about
1H30. I got some vivid imaginations, and moved my body for the last time, after seconds i tried to move again, but I couldn't , I knew I was in Sleep Paralysis. so i tried to move hardly ( to separate my dream-astral-body from my physiscal one ) and that's it, I started to get out of my body and seeing my physical one still sleeping, ( transition )
i didn't heard the Buzzing loud sounds, insteed , I heard voices that freaked me out ( Like 2 entities whishpering about me with a foreighn language )
And finally found myself in a dream scene , but i couldn't stand-up for a while like if I was very tired .. and the dream began: Stones, and a lake far away a little, I toutched the stones, and taste it ( to stabilize the dream ) and ran to the lake it was cold , fun, and very realistic.
so the dream fade away. it lasts about ( 1 - 3 Minutes ) I think.
I tought that wild is the same as OBE but it's not why?
I felt the transition and separation, is that was a lucid dream only or what?
I want to OBE in real time zone
The debate over LD being the same as OBE is.. vast and various. I see it, an LD is being mentally conscious while REM, and OBE is shifting/transferring consciousness to the astral.
Most likely when you leave your physical body in an OBE, you are in the RTZ first than you shift to the Realm.
~astraladdict
Your subject line is misleading. Just thought I'd mention that.
In any case...
What you experienced, in my opinion, was a projection. However, if your explicit goal is to experience this physical reality free from the confines of your physical body, you can do what you did (initiate a WILD), then place your Intent towards being in the physical. Visualize yourself being somewhere you're familiar with and hold that visualization while you're non-physical... and you should shift there. As once you're "dreaming" you're already out, and there's no need to ever return to your body in an effort to do a classic separation obe. It's just a matter of placing your Intent to go do/where you want to go/do. :)
If you're looking for a classic separation OBE... then you'll need to learn to project as such.
thanks guys,
Ryan yes, you mean that AP is just in the same plane as LD ( LDs not in the mind/subc)
so it's just a matter of moving the dream-body from the AP plane to the Physical plane !!
that was my theory too, but when experienced LDs i couldn't move it to my room , i tried that
It's not exactly an easy process. :)
It's one, like anything else, that takes time and practice.
You need explicit control over your thoughts. Learn this through meditation first.
controlling toughts is hard
and i need to prolong the LD/OBE too