PHASING: (GETTING STUCK INSIDE YOUR OWN HEAD??)

[Wowabox]

So last night I was trying to phase. I wasn't having great success on my first two attempts I was just getting side tracked and my mind kept wandering. I got the idea to meditate to some theta wave binaural beats for thirty minutes. This seemed to work very well because I was focused and more aware. There were no bad thoughts or fear in my head I was so calm and peaceful. So I decided to give it my all in this third session.

As I started I just thought to myself just let the blackness envelop you. I felt this warmth and peace when I did this which is a little ironic. I also tried this method visualizing someone is massaging your brain and getting all the tension out. My body started to fall asleep faster than ever. As I let the blackness surround me more and more I kept aware. I remember just totally letting the blackness around me like I was I fighting it the whole time and I just surrendered. I was a afraid this meant I would fall asleep and all my work would be lost. Then I felt this shift like I was not connected to my physical body anymore.

I felt like a ball or an orb floating but I could still not see anything just blackness that surrounded me, the thing was it wasn't even that black it was like a blackish gray color and for some reason I don't know how or why but I realized that I was this orb and I was floating inside my own head. I felt no connection to my body. It felt foreign but peacefull. I felt like I was my own thing and my body was a separate thing but at the same time I felt like a gold fish in a bowl I wanted to explore or go somewhere but I didn't know how too so I floated and waited I wasn't really afraid I just didn't know what to do.

Does anybody know why I was stuck inside my head or if that's supposed to happen, what to do? I am just a little confused about what to do next. Should I have tried an active technique from that point? I mean I was a floating orb with no arms so I guess that means you can cross out the rope method. Anyway did anybody have a similar experience like this too?

[Xanth]

Next time you get to that point... just start mentally asking questions.  Remain completely open to whatever answers come... and in whatever format they come in. 

Suffice to say, you weren't "stuck in your head"... that's only how you perceived it to be.  You were quite "phased" at that point.  Tom Campbell calls it the "point consciousness" state.

[Szaxx]

Hi,
Scoot down to part 3
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/the_astral_blueprint-t38729.0.html

You're really doing fine.

[AteBits]

I call that state medium/deep trance. It happens to me occasionally.
Usually Im just in light/medium trance when meditating but ever so often this happens.
Sympthoms of this can be very noticeable falling/sinking sensations, feelings of that body parts are out of place or smaller/larger in proportion to the rest of the body, your whole body is smaller/larger than normal, ripples/waves over your whole body, feelings of that your body is not there (strong numbness), feelings of that you are in a particular place in your body (as in your case) etc.
I aggree to the rest of the people here, you are doing fine! Keep it up. And as Xanth says, do that because that will probably get you further.

What Robert Bruce says to do at this point is "body loosening" and that means, basically, that you mentally feel yourself rocking back and forth for example, or sinking or lifting, or turning your body or climbing a rope. What this does is loosening your astral body so that you let go of your physical one. Note that this is a feeling technique and doesnt even have to involve visual stuff. This was just an alternate idea of what you can do to let go of your physical body at such a time.

[Xanth]

What Robert Bruce says to do at this point is "body loosening" and that means, basically, that you mentally feel yourself rocking back and forth for example, or sinking or lifting, or turning your body or climbing a rope. What this does is loosening your astral body so that you let go of your physical one. Note that this is a feeling technique and doesnt even have to involve visual stuff. This was just an alternate idea of what you can do to let go of your physical body at such a time.

You actually don't need to do any of that...

The point at which he's referring to, there's no need to loosen anything, he's *ALREADY* projecting!

So when you go and do a "body loosening" technique at this point, you're ruining an otherwise perfect projection.  People need to get past this concept of getting "in" and "out" of a body... and realize that it's simply a shift of perception.  What denotes you being "in" or "out" is nothing but a belief and a perspective.  I understand that it's a difficult concept to wrap your head around, the idea that you're not actually ever IN your body to begin with... but I promise you that once you make a small shift in thinking, everything, and I mean EVERYTHING begins to get so crystal clear.

[Lionheart]

  I understand that it's a difficult concept to wrap your head around, the idea that you're not actually ever IN your body to begin with... but I promise you that once you make a small shift in thinking, everything, and I mean EVERYTHING begins to get so crystal clear.

This is the key to success right here. Change your thinking, change your reality. But, you have to find that truth out for yourself and this comes by experiencing and asking those questions while in the NPR. We can talk about it until we are blue in the face, but until you come to this realization and believe 100%, then and only then are you opening yourself up completely to this practice.

It will be like waking up for the first time. Everything will have a different meaning!  \

Then the real questions start! 

[AteBits]

Well Xanth, thats what you think. And I think otherwize because I have read otherwize. So who's word am I going to take? Yours or Robert Bruces? There are many people who says his methods work so I don't know..
Anyway, I was just writing something that I have read in a very respected book and I hope that I'm not posting untrue stuff here. If you have an awefull lot of experience, which I dont know if you have, Im sure your right. Over at another forum, this is a perfectly legit method.
I will deffinatelly take what you wrote here into account as I find it very interesting!

Cheers

[Lionheart]

 There are a number of different techniques and methods to access the NPR. Xanth is just saying that sometimes we overdue it. Do what works for you. Only you will know what that is. Xanth is just saying that sometimes we make this more difficult than it need to be.
There is nothing wrong with "loosening the body" if you believe it works, it will! The key word here is BELIEVE! 

Sometimes we are already there, but don't realize it because our expectations are so high. I have Phased many times in mere minutes by just closing my eyes. No vibrations, no hypnogogic imagery, just closed my eyes and saw I was there. If I had began to look for vibrations or focused on "loosening" my body I most likely would have destroyed my session. Other times, it has taken a full 5 minutes of relaxation, 30 minutes of Binaural Beats and another 1/2 hour of just plain noticing until something even started to happen. This is why observing with an air of curiosity is so important. You don't have to be successful everytime, sometimes the Journey getting there is good enough.

[AteBits]

Just to be clear, I wasn't getting mad/angry or saying that he was wrong in anyway I actually think hes advice is good.

[Lionheart]

Just to be clear, I wasn't getting mad/angry or saying that he was wrong in anyway I actually think hes advice is good.

No problem. I was just trying to clarify his message. I have listened to many video, bought AP programs, read many books on the subject. If I tried every single thing I was being told, I would be so confused I wouldn't be able to ever AP. Then once in a Phase session I was told to "SEE THROUGH". Once I started to do this I created my own technique from all the info I had to work with.

I still use Robert Bruce's NEW technique quite a bit. At my Christmas kiosk I introduce the NPR to people that are willing to learn by simply teaching them a quick technique to feel energy. Usually this comes by just brushing their fingers, then letting them continue to do this using their own focus. It only takes a minute to teach and really amazes them.

Once they see this and feel this, I stop and tell them about the Astral Pulse site. From there it's up to them. All I did was give them a little nudge! 

[Stookie_]

If you're going for a classic OBE, Bruce's techniques work just fine. It's true that we're not really in our bodies, but for your current perception as a physical being, it's fine to see it that way while you're in the process. "Loosening" and doing energy work for projection are legit techniques. If you want to phase, holding the perception of going "inward" rather than leaving your body may be more correct. But I don't think there is any argument that when doing a classic/etheric OBE that you are separating from your physical body (in terms of physical space). Space and time may be an illusion, but you still have to deal with it just as you do in the physical.

[Wowabox]

Well I was trying to phase into NPR. I've had two RTZ projection but I haven't been able to project for awhile. So i wanted to try something new Experience something beyond the RTZ but I am still confused how to do this. How do I try to project somewhere I've never been or even seen before. Are there any tricks too it.

There seems to be not a lot of imagery when I try to phase maybe a mini dream but not a lot. I've become pretty good at shifting my focus but at the same time I don't feel like I'm going anywhere. I want to be able to have both of these kind of projections but I think I'll need two techniques one for each. Anyway can you guys try to help me out with my phasing?

[Xanth]

Well Xanth, thats what you think. And I think otherwize because I have read otherwize. So who's word am I going to take? Yours or Robert Bruces? There are many people who says his methods work so I don't know..

I'm not asking you to "believe" me, that wouldn't get you any further than you already are.
I'm asking you to try it for yourself and see.

All I can say is that I speak directly from experience with this.  This knowledge has changed my entire reality so completely.

Anyway, I was just writing something that I have read in a very respected book and I hope that I'm not posting untrue stuff here. If you have an awefull lot of experience, which I dont know if you have, Im sure your right. Over at another forum, this is a perfectly legit method.
I will deffinatelly take what you wrote here into account as I find it very interesting!

Cheers

My suggestion, and I say this with the utmost respect, is to stop reading books and start practicing/doing.
Booksmarts won't take you very far in non-physical exploration, because you'll always be relying upon other people's experiences as your main source of data... and other people's experiences can only ever be a 'belief' for you, as you can never have someone else's experiences.

Work completely on experiencing things first hand, then you'll find you see things from a much clearer vantage point.

Edit:  OH!!  And NEVER *EVER* take someone at their word on here or anywhere.  If your direct experience contradicts something someone has said, then just go with it until either some new experience contradicts your first one... BUT the absolute *MOST IMPORTANT* thing is to always remain OPEN to the possibility.  Once you close off any other possibilities, you've then locked yourself within a paradigm and no other information, true or false can ever help you escape.