How do I move through solid objects??

[SpectralDragon]

Once teleportation (phasing) is learned moving through solid objects, for some odd reason, is attainable (even though there is no point anymore[xx(])

Hard thing to learn though.

[Michael_E]

quote:Originally posted by Risu no Kairu

They're giving me a lot of trouble, and possibly cutting my experiences shorter and shorter.

Last week, I was stopped by door, twice. Then couldn't have anymore OBEs (or at least I don't recall having any more)

And today, my stupid window wouldn't let me through. Four times I get out, and look out the window, and see the houses across the street (with a reddish hue to all outside for some reason), and when I tried to move through it, I couldn't!!

I don't understand!! I know I should be able to move through physical objects, so why can't I?

One of my longest, and first bestest OBEs took place a while ago (posted it on this forum, somewhere), I got out, and my door was partially open. I floated down my hall, and much to my surprise HIT MY HEAD on a towel  cabinet, and felt pain.

So, uh, could you people please help me out?

Hi Risu,

I would say this is strictly psychological conditioning carried over from the physical. Something you can try to do to get past the instinct that you cant go through solid objects that is carring over into the astral is to go through the door or window backwards instead of headfirst. Just turn around and step back till you are through the door.

let me know how it goes!

[ralphm]

Quotef rom Nagual:
will come back to my "we don't have a body" comment. I can make my body disapear. So why would my hand bump into an "object" when in fact I have no real hand? You bump into it because you expect to bump into it. What about the object? I can make objects disapear too.

Which gives me an idea-has anyone been stopped by an object, then made part of it dissappear, then went thru the hole?

I base the vibration energy thing on my experience- sometimes I feel sluggish and get stuck by an object and usually my experience is not at the same level as other times when i just zip right through walls. I feel that what gets me through isn't pushing but the mental desire to be outside the house.

[Risu no Kairu]

Whew... I don't quite remember all the details of this morning, because I thought "hey, I'll remember them..." (Now,I know better), but that shhhhhh thing and the thinking of myself as gas helped. Thanks.

[Haematite]

hi[]
I read(and I said it another topic) that the astral body takes some matter from the material one when it's going out - if the "double" takes too much "heavy" and slowly vibrating matter it couldn't move through solid objects. Astral body in jeneral is less vissible and moving through objects just because it has much higher vibrations than our physicle body. So, you could try to raise your vibration, but not too much cause if your astral body gets less matter it'll loose it's shape. And please,be careful with the experiments, you shouldn't force anything.
[]Be safe

[Nagual]

quote:The original post proved that belief in your self to pass through objects is not enough to actually pass through them.

Hum... as I am sure you will agree, believing is not black or white; on or off...  People can say that they believe, and still have some doubts.
Again, risu used "should".  That means he is doubting.

And, again, I was talking about my personal experience.  For me, I don't really have a body (maybe it is a fake built by my conscious) and the so called objects looks fake too (I can make them appear, disapear, go through).  It just take some intent.  In fact, the more lucid I am, the less odd things I can do (maybe conscious > subconscious).  And of course, the less lucid I am, the easier it is to do crazy stuff.

I am not saying that the vibrational stuff theory does not exist; maybe it does; maybe not...  I just say that I don't need another theory.  I prefer direct experience.

[Risu no Kairu]

They're giving me a lot of trouble, and possibly cutting my experiences shorter and shorter.

Last week, I was stopped by door, twice. Then couldn't have anymore OBEs (or at least I don't recall having any more)

And today, my stupid window wouldn't let me through. Four times I get out, and look out the window, and see the houses across the street (with a reddish hue to all outside for some reason), and when I tried to move through it, I couldn't!!

I don't understand!! I know I should be able to move through physical objects, so why can't I?

One of my longest, and first bestest OBEs took place a while ago (posted it on this forum, somewhere), I got out, and my door was partially open. I floated down my hall, and much to my surprise HIT MY HEAD on a towel  cabinet, and felt pain.

So, uh, could you people please help me out?

[Clarky]

Once while in a lucid dream I was told by a dream character that I could move through solid objects by making the sound 'Tssss' with my mouth when moving towards and through the object.

It's like the sound you hear when you open a can of soda. Just putting the tip of my tongue at the 'ceiling' of my mouth and blowing. I did this many times and it worked effectively.

It seems it volatizes the astral body, you become a sort of gas and can pass through anything. A projector here of the forums tested it and it worked for him too.

The slime method mentioned by APguy sounds interesting, I will try combine and see what happens.

That is so strange reading that post, i've used this method all my life and have never really gave it any thought until now and its always worked fine or i'll breath out as im passing through till I get to the other side.

[AndrewTheSinger]

Yes Clarky, as a child I remember having no problems going through walls, but then somehow I lost the hang of it. It was on January 10, 2003, that I was having this dream in which I was in a hotel/hospital looking for a yellow rucksack that contained my parachute, so I was going in every room searching for it, when someone told me I could simply go through the walls by making the sound tssss. It worked.

After waking up I took note of it and decided to try it in other dreams, which proved it to be an effective method.

[Clarky]

Last night I became lucid and started showing several people this method and they all watched with curiosity.  The first few times, I passed through these big panes of glass with no problems acquiring that strange scratchy/glassy taste as I did but then on one occasion I was passing through and I couldn't quite pull my leg through, ran out of breath making the tssss noise so was slowly sucked back through.