Wow!!....What the heck just happened?

[BlueTone]

Okay, so i was reading over some of Frank's old notes. I dunno why what he wrote decided to really take hold this time, and not have much of an effect before, But boy did it ring home. I was reading about how the biggest problem he notices people having in their attempts of AP is that while they're trying to relax, enter trance, raise energy, Etc...They are focusing entirely too much on their body, which is the exact OPPOSITE of what they are needing to do. Frank states, that when he phases, he simply relaxes, and notices the changes take place behind his eyelids....

Well, i tried that for the first time last night, and to my excitement.....I believe it worked   

It began with me getting gut-busting rushes of tickling energies in the pit of what feels like my stomach, and i find myself standing completely awake in a strange dream. I begin by trying to erase the scene to be left with nothing, to advance into an OBE. With every attempt to clear my vision, something else would just jump in. So i then looked for something i might be able to interact with....And in the distance, something caught my attention. A large white cloud, hovering barely over the ground, with a large black-hole like feild in the center. This black area was the only thing in my vision that was actually clear. A man behind me asked " ..You wanna go there? "...I replied " Yes, i need to get there. "...With a simple wipe of his hand, my entire area changed.

I suddenly found myself on my knees over these thin plates of ice in this club-like area...Listening to a live band perform. In all my lucid dreams...Nothing...Has...EVER...Looked this clear. I must have spent 10 minutes just looking around admiring how real everything looks. I went and sat next to a man at the bar, and remember saying " Man, This is weird.. "...He looked over at me and asked " What is? "....I replied, " Do you know how strange it is to know im here right now, While im actually completely asleep in my bed? "...He laughed, and stated " Yeah, enjoy it while it lasts, Soon you'll feel like your blood has turned to ice shards! " As he laughs and turns back to the bar....

Not entirely sure what he meant by that, I tried to remain aware, and just enjoyed the area. This went on for sometime but....Was i still dreaming?...

I honestly can't tell if i went from a lucid dream, to a REALLY lucid dream...Or what?......Anyones opinion??...

Also, if this happens again, what else should i try to make sure i actually end up in the astral, and not another self-made reality  ...


~Ryan

[Greytraveller]

Hallo BlueTone
Your intention was to phase out of a lucid dream and into an OBE, yes? Well it certainly appears as if you succeeded in doing so. I'm of the opinion that it Was an OBE. The experience was probably in an in between state of dream and OBE, where it was part one and part the other. However, it does not appear that you created the environment (of the bar and its patrons) which Would have been the case Had it been a lucid dream. The way that you described the bar made it seem more likely have been in a belief system territory at that makes it an OBE (or an AP).

Regards 
Grey

[Astral316]

and i find myself standing completely awake in a strange dream.

It sounds like you were lucid, and being "completely aware" makes this an OBE/AP from the getgo. Fascinating experience to boot, congrats!

[blidge]

Yeah a seriously fascinating experience and will try your suggestion, pity you didn't get the name of the man at the bar, he may well have been projecting himself and not just a part of your self!

[BlueTone]

Thank you everyone for your responses....I can't get over the success of this simple lil' change of habit. I've been on and off for years now, and in three days, have had 2 of what i can seriously consider OBE's.

I have been wondering alil' something.....Reflecting a couple years ago at some of my most profound experiences, and comparing them with what has happened to me recently....I have a quick question to those with more experience...

Recently, i find that during the experience, I'll have good awareness, excitement with everything I'm currently involved in, and finding the experience -more- than mind-blowing. But, upon waking, the memories of the event never fully reflect the intensity of the experience. The memories are accurate in the events, just never as intense as i remember them being at the time.....Almost similar to the hazy dream-like memories...

Does this go away with more awareness?...More experience?...Or is this pretty much how the memories work in this field of things?..


Thanks for your responses thus far, Look forward to reading more =D...

~Ryan

[blis]

I dont have more experience so I cant tell you if it changes with time but it's the same with me.

I think the inensity comes from the energy of the place. We're experienceing an energy we're not used to. Remove the energy and you remove the WOWness. All you're left with is the memory of a weird conversation in a strange club and the knowledge that, at the time, it was like WOW!

[Astral316]

All you're left with is the memory of a weird conversation in a strange club and the knowledge that, at the time, it was like WOW!

This. It's like riding a rollercoaster... you feel the rush, the ride ends, and you're left with a memory that can never fully capture that rush. If your memory had that ability, why would you need the rollercoaster?

I've had the same questions kicking around in my head so every once in a while I'll have an OBE and take the time to absorb the realty of it. I think to myself, "Yup... it doesn't get more real than this." When I wake up, how can I doubt myself at that point? Perhaps you should try that... just absorb the reality of the experience.