WOW I came close using Birm's Triangle Method

[mikeman]

hey cairnsb,

Sounds like you used your 'real time vision'! Do you remember if you were able to use your body? I find paralysis occurs often during real time visions, and also experience the ear buzzing, vibrations and falling sensation. These are mostly symptoms of raising your energy and entering a level of trance.

Have you OBE before? Its just a step away from OBE, and with a little focus on pulling away from your body you can buzz out usually quite easily (as long as your cat doesnt act up hehe). There are alot of techniques in 'Astral Dynamics' that you can use, but i think you will find that any technique that involves centering your attention outside of your body will usually work quite well.

Focusing on the buzzing in the ears seems to be a good measure of how much energy has been raised. You guys agree?

Mikeman

[Nick]

Hi cairnsb,

Thanks for your post! It is good to read experiences such as yours. I guess the important thing is to keep at it, trying different methods, and variations of methods. The cat scenario I can relate to as we live with two cats, and they do get curious. []


Very best,

[Nick]

By the way, welcome to the Astral Pulse forums! []

[Thing]

hello!

could you please explain how to do it?
"the method calls you to focus on both your ears and your "third eye" (about an inch above your eyebrows in the middle)"

[thelou]

Great post, I had a similar eye thing on about week two, minus the cat.

This brings a question to me.  People talk about cats looking at things that are not there and doing weird stuff.  Hissing, fur standing on end, following it with either head or walking etc.

Nick, or anyone.  When you AP have you ever walked around your house and the cat could see/hear you?  It would be interesting to me if cats or other animals are able to do this.[]

Thanks all.

[Nick]

Originally posted by thelou

quote:When you AP have you ever walked around your house and the cat could see/hear you? It would be interesting to me if cats or other animals are able to do this.

This is something that I have read about in a number of places. There have been reports of cats reacting to obe people in the real time zone. For my part, I have no personal experience to relate.

Very best,

[cairnsb]

This is an update to the original post...

We ever since I was a kid I would see images (usually geometric shapes) and hear a "buzzing" noise in my ears.

My dad took me to about a 1000 ear specialists and they concluded that nothing was pysically wrong with my ears.

Anyways - I know that I do get out, once in a while I remember them as "dreams" only to find out the things I saw in my dreams really happened.

One time when I was about 16 I was read Journeys out of the body by Robert Monroe, got out once then, and never again since [V]

I always tried focusing on the "buzzing" noise thinking that it was the cause of the OOBE.

As I read last night (in these forums thank you) the buzzing is not the cause, just a by-product.

The stage I always get to is this:

1. seeing shapes or flatout seeing the bedroom
2. VERY LOUD buzzing noise (kinda like the dialtone on a phone).
3. complete paralisis (spelling? - aka can not move unless I really try).

Some times I get flickering lights, loud noises, muffled voices, and a assortment of other weird things.

From what I read last night, I have been focusing on the wrong thing all these years (which is why I don't get out and then fall alseep and get out anyways ?).

So last night I tried the "ROPE" method and OMG was it fast!!!!

For me it takes a little while for the noise and other things to come in full force but using the triangle and the ROPE methods I got it all to come full force in about 4 to 5 minutes (seemed alot faster then that).

I must have fallen asleep as the next thing I remeber is the alarm going off ... I had slept for 16 hours[)]

As the day wears on I get little flashes and thoughts of images that make no sence to me - I am presuming they are memories of last night?


So it seems to me (could be dead wrong) that I am falling alseep during or just before the seperation process?

Any hints and tips on what to do next?

And thanks for the warm welcome to the forums []

[Thing]

hmm, could anyone explain that triangle method?

[cairnsb]

Hey Thing, the triangle method is as follows:
(also see the link for more details)

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6762

Basically you focus your attention on your ears and your "3rd eye".

Ok, you know where your ears are, there are also Chakras there (that is what you are really focuing on).

At the same time you focus your attention on your "3rd eye".
This is also another Chakra located inbetween your eyebrows (about an inch up from there).

When your focus your attention on all three at once, you get a disoreintated feeling - you can even get this feeling while you are at your computer reading this very sentence - go ahead try it.

This method seems to work best while you have the "buzzing" noise in your ears, if you done hear that noise, focus your attention on yet another chakra - this one located at the top of your head, about an inch above your scalp.

Note I did not make this method, Birm did, and it is very similar to other methods I have read about.

What I do is this...

Lay down (or sit or what ever you do).

Focus on the chakra above your head to produce the "buzzing" noise in your ears.

When you hear the noise (takes about 1 minute for me)...

Then Focus on both your ears and your 3rd eye at the same time.
This makes the noise VERY loud.

Another thing I read about is the ROPE method - this I have to admit works incredibly well.

You can read more on the ROPE method here:
http://www.astralpulse.com/guides/oobe/oobe.htm

Hope all that helps!

As for me I seem to get right to that point  - and then fall alseep or get over excited and blow the whole thing...any help with this ?

[Graupel]

What makes me wonder is why we fall asleep anyways.  If only there is a way to not fall asleep and fall deeper into trance.

Would just simply focusing on feeling your breath be enough usually, and nothing else?

[thelou]

Thanks Nick,

If you ever decide to give it a try and play around with it would you let me know what you find?  PM me if this string is long and dead by then.

Thanks,

Thelou

P.S.  How do you do that quote thing?  I wanted to use it here but couldn't figure it out.[V]

[Nick]

Hi thelou,

Yes, I'll let you know if I discover anything along those lines.[]

Regarding the quote thing: just open up the reply window and above the message box you'll see a section called "Format". There are two rows of gray boxes with icons on them. In the bottom row of the two, move your cursor over the gray box which would be the third from the right. If you leave your cursor over that box a highlighted popup should appear that reads: "Insert Quote". Click on that. When you do, two items will appear in your reply box that read

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Be sure to 'paste' the quote between the two middle brackets of each (where I put the red asterik). The same holds true for such things as underlining and italics and so forth.


Very best,

[cairnsb]

My first attept in a long time ...
Found these forums and read, read, read, did I mention read.

Found Birm's "triangle method":
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6762

Will break it down into the basics of the method and what happened to me.

The method calls you to focus on both your ears and your "third eye" (about an inch above your eyebrows in the middle) this causes a "dizzy" type of effect, you instantly feel disorientated.

This works best if you can hear a buzzing noise in your ears when you are relaxed.

I have never had a problem getting relaxed, hearing the buzzing noises, seeing shapes.

Last night i tried the method, about 4 minutes (time gets very distorted for me) after laying down I started to hear the noise in my ears, I tried the triangle method...

The noise got louder - and then VERY LOUD!
Then my body felt like it was being electrified (but no pain).

I then saw my cat creeping across the bed to lick my face (damn cat always does this).

So I thought great - cat ruined it for me...
Thats when I realized that I was still seeing my cat and forcing myself to OPEN my eyes.

needless to say once that occured to be I sat strait up in bed with my heart racing a mile a minute.


Any tips or advice from you gurus ?

Thanks