Achieving consciousness state for Astral phasing

[matb_uk]

Hi all,

I have a few of questions regarding phasing as apposed to AP'ing. Sorry if these have been raised and answered elsewhere but with such a vast amount of information on this forum i get lost in what i have and haven't read.

Anyhoo, here are my questions:-

1. With respect to AP i hear mention of relaxing, quietening the mind, energy raising and manipulation (NEW), exit techniques etc are required for an OBE. Am i correct in assuming that only the ability to relax and focus are required for phasing? I only ask as i have great difficulty at the moment with energy raising, and techniques such as 'the rope'. If phasing is simply about focusing, it sounds like a much easier approach.

2. From reading RB's books and reading postings by other members, it seems like it is difficult to hold an OBE for more than few minutes. Is this still true when phasing or can the experiences last longer?

3. Is memory recal (shadow memories etc) a problem when phasing as it is when AP'ing ?

Thanks,

Matt.

[Jackaferdelabor`]

Well, after reaching that period where " vibrations" are felt before exiting the body I heard a voice which spoke to me saying that it was " the ancient god of fire" and that he'd assist me with anything that I wanted to learn. The voice was kinda scary, but I knew it was a chance to astral project so I asked to help to ' get me out'.. The voice then began to say who he was and what I should do to ' get out of my body'... I cannot rmemebr half of the things he sed. He even sed his name, but I couldnt rmemebr it ( of course I went online to search "gods of fire" to see if any name would ring a bell.. but there were too many names that came up.) ANyway, when i followed the voice's instructions, I felt my "astral" head beginning to rise.. I then got scared cuz I felt an intense HEAT feeling on my head and I had to force myself to 'get up from the paralysed stage'... the heat scared me cuz I was thinking " god of fire...-heat...-hell"..... AFter that experience a month ago, I never had anything "astrally" again. I was thinking to try that "sitting down on a chair" method, but I KNOW it's too difficult for me to 'fall sleep' on a chair... It's also hard for me to fall asleep on my back... so are there any other methods where I can reach that 'relaxed stage " to astral project?

[ger]

OK,
Here's what I do. First I write a definite "intent" on a piece of paper. This is where I want to go or what I wish to accomplish. I feel that this notifies my subconscious. I then get barefoot with both feet flat on the floor, feet close together. I place my hands palms down in my lap, usually one on each thigh..I may or may not listen to Hemi- or Holo-Sync. I relax and concentrate on the darkness behind my eyes and keeping my breathing at a slow steady pace. I feel as though I am waiting....expecting to soon see the colors that begin to swirl into the darkness behind my eyes.
At the same time I "feel" my third eye and crown chakra become active, or opening. This stage usually begins after about 20 minutes when the natural chemical reactions to the darkness begin ( much like going to sleep).
Once the colors Begin to swirl, (violet,dark blue, white and gold) it is not long before a tunnel forms. I then begin to move my consciousness into and through this tunnel to arrive at my intended purpose or destination. Often, if I have requested a guide, this is when I will meet my guide.
Upon returning to my body I will feel the "vibrations" others speak of when they exit, but I do not experience them upon my exit. I do have a "body" there and can even change my clothing with a "thought" in an instant. I can communicate with others and have all of my senses, plus the ability to fly and the ability to focus my vision on a distant scene and bring it into a magnified focus (as if it were right in front of me).  I have the ability to speak with those who have passed over in death, see and touch them too.

I have experienced many interesting and creative adventures using the
above method.
Donna

I'm trying to put all the information here in a comprehensive way for me. Read on the different topics about "Focus", phasing, 3D blackness, listening to different CD...

I'm beginning to have a good idea on the process somewhat.

Could Donna, or any other here put together the basic and the means of getting to the 3D blackness.  I'm thinking of putting the body in the correct state to get to Focus 10 Mind-awake/body-asleep. Just practice with the CD?  Use relaxation techniques for the body?  Raise energy?

There's mixed messages depending on which posts you read.

Donna here seems to just close her eyes, look at the blackness in front of here and eventually "get there".

I've read the post of Major Tom (Focus 10); a few posts of Frank (the mental rundown for one).

What are the prerequisites?

[alexd]

Where can one buy the CD "set" mentioned at the start of this topic?


Thanks
Alex

[alexd]

"Gateway Experience Wave I-VI CD Package"

Is that the one?

Yeah I can see what you mean by pricy hehe.


Thanks
Alex

[alexd]

Oh ok thanks.

I often simply go into alternate states of conciousness without the help of the tapes. Though I learned that the connection that is formed between the right and left hemespheres of the brain with using the tapes is permanent. So once having used the tapes for the prescribed "time" they are no longer necessary. I was careful to use them as prescribed by Monroe Institute to gain this permanent bridge between the spheres of my brain.

Really, I want to be able to achieve this "permanent connection".

Up until now, I was just using brainwave files whenever I was in the mood, not in any particular routine that was prescribe to actually balance the left and right hemispheres.


Thanks
Alex