Dene Skinwalkers

[Nick]

Hi Sweetwater,

The wording of your post troubles me, as it seems to equate the Navajo (Dinee') with skinwalkers, which is like saying people who live in Salem, Massachusetts are all evil witches. The reason I say this, is because you refer to your "enemy" as Dene, which I assume, refers to the ancient Dinee' (pronounced "dee-nay"), as the Navajo refer to themselves. Perhaps you didn't mean that, but that's how I understood it, as you referred to your enemy by this name.

My understanding is that the Navajo are a people who principally reside on the 'big reservation' of Northern Arizona and western Colorado. They are like any other people trying to work and live. That said, there can exist 'skinwalkers' practicing bad medicine, and they can be living in any geographical area too.

Given the severity of the harm that you wrote about, perhaps trying to be assisted by a Navajo medicine man/healer would be appropriate. There are good Dinee' healers who practice the 'old ways' and can use their good medicine against skinwalkers. They should understand best how to use shields and wards against bad medicine. There are also a number of Navajo websites to at least start such a search.

Also, there may be some here who can give the answers you seek. I hope that you get the help that you are looking for, and that you are always protected.

Very best,
Nick

[Sweetwater]

Hi Nick,

Obviously, you did not read my message thoroughly. I plainly said SOME of the Dene (that is what our people always called them, and what they still call themselves) practice the black arts. It plainly does NOT say ALL the Dene practice it...(I know how it is pronounced as I speak my language, and our language is still similar). I also said plainly in my first message "not all hataali and sand-painters were evil"...So please do not misconstrue my words or meaning.

The Dene live all over the country, and they do not have to live in the same area as the person they are 'working on' to do their evil work. They are masters at sending their spirits to distant locations. The ones I know personally live in Alaska and Washington.

'Skinwalkers' or 'Navajo Wolves' is a general term used today to describe Dene who do the black arts. Not all are shape-shifters, which is why I listed witches, wizards, socerers, etc...

I know some good Dene who are spiritual leaders around here. When I called one up and just mentioned the word 'Skinwalkers' he immediately said, "I don't mess with them, they are too strong and dangerous for me. I don't want to put myself or my family in danger." Then he hung-up on me...

I know some leaders in the Native American Church. One came to town, and he came over to 'help' me. Later, I got extremely sick, weak, and lost alot of weight. Later, I had a dream about it that confirmed his 'good-guy' approach is just a front.

They are masters of deception also and often play 'good guy/bad guy' with another one of their group. One hexes someone, the other 'heals' them, then they split the profits.

I called down in Arizona at the Native American Church down there and talked to a member who is supposedly 'good'. The same day the 'good medicine man' who was supposed to 'help' me also gave a message to me through a friend of mine. I know most of their tricks, and they were able to establish contact with me. The same day my father had a heart attack. I had to help remove the curse from my father, and he is ok now. So, it can be very dangerous, and I have to be careful who I go to.

I have looked online, the lady who had the only website to help others deal with this type of black arts is now dead...I've studied both their good and evil beliefs. Sometimes, I just simply prayed and the answer would come to me about how they work.

I have contacted other near-by tribes such as a Ute medicine man. His prayers helped only for about a day or two. So, I knew this was a long-shot, but I was hoping that Robert Bruce may know someone who would be able and willing to help me...

Like I said, the work they do and the work I do is 'high-magic' passed down over the generations and from our ancestors. Many people
today do not know how to do this type of work. The evil Dene are also masters at turning peoples medicine against them, so I have quickly learned to call on just the Holy angels and Holy Spirit for help in dealing with them.

Salt, cornmeal, salt-water sprinkled around your home, running water,
sage, sweetgrass, etc. does not phase them. I have found that only 'high-magic' is able to affect them or rebuff an attack...

So, thanks anyway. I hope that clarifies the issue a little more. I thank Dikee Aankaawu (the Creator) every day for His protection, and I am very well protected. Their work has little or no affect on me personally.

It is harder for me to try to protect others though, because they haven't 'cleaned house' by letting go of old hurts, anger, hatred, or other negative emotions from this life or perhaps other life-times. Or, they haven't asked the Creator to forgive them for their transgressions and remove that negativety from their lives, body, or spirits. This is what the Negs latch onto when sent to attack people, this is how they hurt and harm people...I have to remain positive all the time, forgive them, and bless them.

This is an ancient battle fought over many lifetimes, and I feel this is the last big battle, I won't have to go through this ever again. But, it sure would be nice if I had some help, I am very out-numbered, and tired of the constant daily struggle and would like to get on with my life without having to worry who they have targeted next...

[Risu no Kairu]

Nick was probably putting the pronunciation in there for the rest of us who don't know any "Native American" languages.

I'm sorry if I misunderstood, but, are you only looking for Native Americans to help you?

If so, that seems like you're narrowing your field of help.

Good luck.

[Nick]

Originally posted by Sweetwater

quote:...do you know any traditional Native medicine people who have spiritually fought the Dene before?

Your message was read thoroughly, sorry you didn't think so. I did allow in my original post that "Perhaps you didn't mean that, but that is how I understood it." The pronunciation I wrote was not for your benefit. Again, best to you, and hopefully you will get the help you seek.

[Nita]

Hello Sweetwater
  I help people who have problems with others magically all of the time. My website is www.astralhealer.com. I also live in Northern AZ but by Las Vegas. My email is nita@astralpulse.com
 I may be able to help you with your problems I have dealt with a skin walker and heard of them.
         Nita

[Sweetwater]

Hi Risu,

I have found it is important to specifically ask for what I want or need. Perhaps to you I seem to be 'narrowing my field of help', but I have learned it is not wise to go into a circle and send out an all-points bulletin 'SOS'.

You never know who is in a circle, and after reading some of the messages in these forums I can tell there are some people who have little experience with Negs, maybe had one encounter, etc. If someone were to think they could help me and did not have enough experience or protection, they could get hurt or killed, or someone in their family would. This I have already seen when I first was frantically looking for help long ago. They can be very dangerous, and I don't want to endanger a well-intentioned, but inexperienced or under-protected fellow human on their path of healing and growing.

The other reason is I prefer someone who at least has some knowlege of the Skinwalkers and their work. This way I don't have to explain everything to them, and they already know what they might be up against.

So yes, I would prefer another Native American medicine person or someone who has experience with the Dene Skinwalkers. Since Nita has come across this type of work and dealt with a Skinwalker already, I am certain she is the reason I even decided to try this forum in the first place.

Nita has graciously offered to help me, and I have accepted and I am thankful for whatever assistance she can provide. I thank Dikee Aankawu for bringing us together. Gunalcheesh (thank you) for your well wishes and question to give me the opportunity to clarify this.

Peace

[Sweetwater]

The Tlingit medicine woman

My name is Tlinukt'juheen (Sweetwater), I am from the Gitsbuwada (Tsimpsian-Killerwhale)clan, Kiks.adi yadi (my father is Tlingit-Raven/Frog) clan. My great-grandmother was Yeil'yadi klaa, was the matriarch of our clan. She is the grand-daughter of Chief Shakes, from the Wolf clan, of the Shark House, from the Shutk'heen (the Stikine River).

I am a traditional medicine women, by that I mean I learned all my healing work I know from Haa Shagoon (my ancestors) who were all shamans and medicine people, with the help of Haa Shaageinyaa (the Holy Spirit). Our people know there is one Creator - Dikee Aankaawu, my people did not 'worship many gods' as the ignorant missionaries believed. I believe in the power of Haa Shageinyaa and holy angels. I also believe that everything has a spirit, and we are all connected and eternal. I know there are good spirits and evil spirits, and I have called on my ancestors many times for help, guidance, and teachings. They are not 'familiar spirits' or 'evil spirits'. I was raised in the church as a child, and I don't knock others beliefs, but I know what they think of our peoples beliefs is wrong and narrow-minded.

I have done alot of spiritual work on myself, my family and friends. I have done a lot of 'house-cleaning' for myself, removing negative trauma from this life and past-lives. I have done much mind, spirit, and body strengthenig work to help make the spiritual work I do more effective. I remain positive in outlook and in life, and thankful to Dikee Ankaawu. I live every day as if it could be my last, by helping others in need and telling people how much I love them, and enjoying life.

I have helped heal people of cancer, Lyme Disease, brought people out of comas, removed brain tumors, stopped heart attacks and stokes, and many other healings just with prayer, that many people would consider miraculous.

All the people I have helped sought medical treatment from 'conventional methods' with little or no results. Yet, I never claim this power as my own, I only make myself a vessel for the Divine Will of Dikee Aankaawu.

I do not consider myself a 'faith-healer' yet I know it is my stong beliefs and faith in Dikee Aankaawu that allows my prayers to be answered so quickly and powerfully. I have always had the 'faith of a mustard seed'. The work I do you will never find in any book, it is 'traditional knowledge' handed down from my ancestors. It would be considered 'high-magic' and very powerful.

Our people understood the cycles of life and death, and how we are connected to Haa Shagoon (our ancestors-those who have gone before us) and Haa Shuka (those yet to come). We believe when we die, we always come back to the same family or clan. We believe we are connected to the past, present, and future.

The Dene Skinwalkers and the Old Spiritual War

That brings me to my present problem. The Tlingit and Dene (Navajo) people were Athapaskan people before we migrated to the areas we now live. My people still tell our migration stories and flood stories, so I know we have been where we are since before 'the Flood'.

The some of the Dene practiced the black arts, for this reason my people drove them out of our land. Some of them were not driven out, and they still live in Canada, and we still call them Dene.

The evil Dene were driven out everywhere they went till they reached the area they now live. They have been there for only the past 700 or so years, they inter-married with the Hopi and Pueblo and adopted their ways and beliefs. Many of them today don't even know they came from the same place of my people. Yet, we still speak a similar language.

Anyway, I have been involved in a spiritual battle with several Dene who still practice their black arts of witchcraft, wizardry, skinwalkers, sorcery, shape-shifters, hataali (singers), bundle-workers, sand-painters, and those who do Frenzy, Disease, or Eagle-pit witchcraft. (not all hatalli or sand-painters are evil, but many are).

They still use (or being used by) the ancient evil spirits of their ancestors to inflict harm and kill many unsuspecting people. They always work in a group, and usually target other Native Americans who have any kind of spiritual gifts. They are like vampires, feeding off people's spirit, then somehow keeping peoples spiritual gifts after they die.

They are very good at what they do, and very deceptive, to look at them they seem nice, soft spoken, and law-abiding. I have learned alot just from constantly having to protect myself and others or helping others that are attacked by them. I personally know 6 of them I first fought with, I was too strong for them, so they moved on to 'easier prey'.

I became involved with a different group after moving to Washington state where a they were trying to kill my niece and cousin. I can see them in my dreams, and see or feel the spirits when they send them to 'attack'. My niece and cousin are also gifted and could see and/or hear them also. This forum is too small to tell of all their methods of spiritual attack.

Well, to make a long story short. I helped my cousin and niece when under severe attack by praying a prayer of intervention and forgiveness, surrounding the Dene with holy angels and anointed them with the Holy Spirit.

They all died (8 of them), then their whole families/clans who also do this evil work came after me. Since I was able to withstand such an assault, they somehow avoid their evil intentions returning to them by 'forwarding it' to my family, friends, or anyone who tried to help me.

I know probably all the reputable Native medicine people in this area, and many know how strong and relentless the Dene can be and refused to help me. I have not been able to figure out how they forward their work to other people.

My question is for Robert Bruce: do you know any traditional Native medicine people who have spiritually fought the Dene before? And, would they be willing to help me?

I am tired of the constant battle, it is me (the angels, Holy Spirit, and Dikee Aankawu) against many of them and their army of darkness. Like I said, they are relentless and want revenge. I would appreciate a personal and private response. Gunalcheesh (thank you).