Fake attacks and telepathy

Jeff_Mash · December 10, 2003, 09:24:58

Dark Knight....

I have a question for you, but this is going to come out wrong. Why are you so important that you're always targetted for attacks? Again, I don't mean it like it sounds. I guess what I'm trying to say is, how can a certain individual always seem to be the center of psychic attacks, while others can go on and never get affected?

Is it always because of a personal vendetta out against the victim? Or does the victim have "something" energetically that the attacker wants?

Could you expound on that a little, since it always baffled me that some people always harp on the same thing, and it makes me wonder why they are targetted in particular.

Again, I apologize if this comes off as a verbal jab at you. It's not meant to be. I just see you always talking about it and I thought you would be the perfect person to address this question of mine.

Nagual · December 10, 2003, 10:10:43

Hey Jeff, I already asked this question... have a look at:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7827&whichpage=7
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7827&whichpage=8
for a beginning of an answer...

Dark Knight · December 10, 2003, 11:10:00

Have to rush this, just home for lunch.

Jeff I don't take the question personally. I don't know the answer. I keep hearing the words, "I want your power" which I find to be absolute bullsh** because as far as I'm concerned, I have no special abilities. "Abilities" of some type started clicking in when my experiences started back in 1993. I was a chemistry major in college and as right brained as you could get. I didn't know anything about chakras or auras and didn't care, it wasn't something that interested me.

I was going to work in race relations and advance my degree and call it a day. Never happened.

Do I have to be "important" for something like this to happen?

Jeff, it's nothing personal from me to you, it's just I hear all this specialness crap and from all the treatment I've undergone, I do not feel very special. I feel like one of those Jewish kids that arrived in the concentration camps and was pulled out of line by a guy saying, "Oh hello little girl, my name is Dr Mengele and I want you to come with me."

There's no attempt to kill me, just continuously subject me to the same crap over and over under varying conditions.

Jeff, if you want me to make this as clear as possible, they had me in a holographic type frame of mind and were placing me in situations where my only recourse was to "kill" whatever was presented to me. The object wasn't to train me as an assassin, it's a test. That's all. It's like, hmmm, if we wanted to create a killer, how would we go about doing it, what would we have to do. Let's get a subject and run some tests.

Jeff, I've been talking to a therapist working with abductees...I am NOT the only one this is happening to. There are a lot of abductees undergoing this and it's not reported.

Jeff, in all honesty, I don't know what your definition of "special" is, but when I'm crawling to the toilet to vommit after an attack, I gotta be honest, I am not feeling very special.

Jeff_Mash · December 10, 2003, 13:58:33

Dark Knight, thank you for taking the time to answer. I hope things will get better for you. [

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Aries · December 10, 2003, 15:56:50

i dont know any self defence or anything and am trying to project into the astral plane.
if i saw somthing i would probly just go back to "c1" is that bad?
what kind of things should i keep an eye out for?
my first time into the ap i want to meet with my spirit guide. should i do this? iv also heard of testing your spirit guide to see if he is a real one.. can someone help me out with these please?
-Aries

Dark Knight · December 10, 2003, 16:33:08

Aries,

You don't sound like you're being attacked, just interested. The books listed in my signature section below are what I would recommend, especially Robert Bruce's book. That will tell you what to look for and what steps to take. There's nothing wrong in taking precautions...it's called educating yourself, the way someone might educate themselves on AIDS. It's not negative it's empowering. Take the time to get informed and then enjoy APing.

Back to my original question, can anyone answer it. Any telepath experts out there? Anyone know if what I described is possible?

CRIMINALMIND63 · December 10, 2003, 20:59:55

Dark
What would you like to know about telepathy. I experince it every day. I will try to answer what I know, it may not be exactly right but something to go on. Also look up Alice Bailey Telepathy and the Etheric Vehicle. They have the a full length book posted online. I have a copy of it here but never finished reading it. I know one way is to cord people together through the chakras. One chakra is the throat and I seen my attacker place his hand near there.
But I have also experienced telepathy with him before the placement of the hands. He dragged his hands down my aura from the shoulders to my hands. I don't remember if he did my legs. I could feel the energy. He didn't touch me physically when this was done. I was aware of the sensation. I'm not sure if what I felt was his energy or my aura.
There is more to it but this explains the process. I experienced telepathy with him but didn't understand what was said. He came back and I heard his voice clearly.
Let me know what you would like to know and I will put it together for you.
There is much to the understanding of telepathy. It has to do with dreaming and of others being brought into your dreams.
You are taught in the occult that we are all apart of oneness. The real meaning behind it is the entering of someone's space, within their aura or consciousness. Seeing as I am one with you I can enter you and become as you.

boydster · December 11, 2003, 00:02:44

Dark,

What you describe as a telepathic "fake" attack sounds like an attack to me--any time someone or something intrudes into my space with anything but the most benevolent intent, it is regarded as an attack by me.

Therefor, I'm a little confused by your question. I believe that we have the right to our space, our thoughts and our emotions, free from any unwanted interference.

With regards to whether someone could precipitate a response within you by projecting the feelings and thoughts which happen during an attack, I'm pretty sure that's possible. It might work for you to avoid paying attention to what "they" are up to, especially what the voices are saying. They may have a harder time penetrating your defenses if your attention is not on them and therefor open to them.

Robert Bruce mentions that children who are really engrossed in active playing and "emanating" happiness, are far less likely to be open to subtle influences. It's probably true for us big kids also.

Dark Knight · December 11, 2003, 05:55:19

Boydster,

Nothing personal, but if saw what my life on this side of the computer was like when it comes to playing around...I live in KB Toys and probably would've have written graphic novels for comic books if this had not happned.

Crim, I gotta go to work and I don't have time, but I feel like I will be contacting you soon. I think there is something here, but then again, there could be a piece missing that could throw this whole theory into another arena.

Aries · December 11, 2003, 07:19:15

As far as telepathy goes I expierence it all the time. But not in the sense you would think, I pick up on frequencys set out by people.
I dont actually hear there voice in my mind, but rather I just get random thoughts.
If you wish to block telepathy or someone from intruding on your mind its simple.
Just think: Block
Just say "block block block block block" over and over and over again in your mind.
Then your pretty much sending out so many frequencys just saying block that it would be impossible to read your mind. Even if he did get into your mind, you would be thinking "block block block" so the person, demon or whatever would not be able to pick up on anything else.
Hope this helps..
-Aries

Mick · December 11, 2003, 07:35:47

quote:
Originally posted by boydster

What you describe as a telepathic "fake" attack sounds like an attack to me--any time someone or something intrudes into my space with anything but the most benevolent intent, it is regarded as an attack by me.

Therefor, I'm a little confused by your question. I believe that we have the right to our space, our thoughts and our emotions, free from any unwanted interference.

I agree that such an intrusion can be an attack in its own right. I sometimes thing that the manner of the attack as percieved by the target is largely due to how they translate/interpret. The initial intent is willed in a more conceptual manner and the target does the rest within their terms of reference and culture. I also suspect that there are those (discarnate entities whatever) that pick up on the initial intent and also join in to become part of the manifestation.

So keeping our viewpoint simple simplifies comprehension and also gives less hooks for access.
Of course the initial intent may include a few thought forms/ avatars or whatever and these make poor targets.

quote:

It might work for you to avoid paying attention to what "they" are up to, especially what the voices are saying. They may have a harder time penetrating your defenses if your attention is not on them and therefor open to them.

Yes, another recent poster said something similar worked for them, whatever the situation marginalising the personal space beit in the mind or round and about all helps. We found ourselves at one time drawn into all sorts of stuff and reflection told us that things were not as we thought they should be so we found that the quickest way to eliminate was to watch ones thoughts and apply simple logical tests putting on the shelf any that failed. As with most things in personal life it continues irrespective of the so called higher understanding of the universe. When the situation changes go back and review for useful content.

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I'm now considering something...is it possible the inital "sensations and feelings" of the attack are telepathically implanted? ie, give the appearance that an attack is taking place when in fact nothing is actually physically happening to you? You retaliate thinking something is there when in fact you're battling against a telepathic phantom that doesn't exist, it's all happening in your mind.

To a degree I think that this may be where most attacks originate, less attacks seem to be purely energy based. If there is a reason for these intrusions then such methods presumably work to provide mindsets that can then be utilised and exploited.
I myself have had the situation where physically am feeling like the proverbial BS. Have looked around and located something that is showing far too much interest in me and have disrupted it and experienced an immediate salvation from grimness.

Dark said.

quote:
The imaginary, perceived attack continues, you feel frustrated and defeated because what you are doing has no effect, your will weakens, your self confidence weakens,...your natural defenses and shields drop!

This can also mean that the target is not being identified.
I believe that we sometimes see stuff laid out before us in a form that in some cases our own mind has presented as the best fit analogy for what is being experienced. Being an analogy attacking it may or may not work.
Going back to the conceptual thing, the intent may not be directed at oneself alone or even at people in general but may be the side effect of some greater scheme in somethings mind. The targets may simply be affected because they share some connecting point/ vibration/ etheric links or whatever and the internal response is to flag 'attack'. Conversely some will respond in a different manner and maybe think that the intrusion is enlightening because buttons are pushed that result in experiences tha are treated as Wow.
In short, often viewing this stuff in the context of one on one does not always reveal a full enough picture.
Having said that there are a few nasty scroats running around my area that could do with being wittled down to a clothspeg or similar

DemonHunter · December 12, 2003, 00:35:38

A person doesn't have to be important to be attacked. Somebody could have taken a dislike to her,and attacked her.

Dark Knight,

You say you have used all types of psychic defense methods,and none of them have worked!? That is very strange. Either you are not doing them correctly or something else is the problem.
I sense there is something wrong with your energy.You have black energy mixed in with your energy. There are rips in your aura as well.
Some problem with balance as well. There is like a tornado around you, and you are picked up and thrown around by it. This is a metaphor. Something symbolic.

Dark Knight · December 12, 2003, 01:32:28

Demonhunter:

I'm a grey ET abductee and my attacker is a member of the US governmnet's remote viewing/mind control program.

Oh, Yes, I am well aware of the neg energy inside me, it's not my energy. It's his. From what he told me once it's so he can find me anywhere and for other purposes as well (talks out of my chest or third eye from time to time). The insertions can be slow (easy to fight) or fast (don't know what's happened until after it's over).

Tornado, yeah I know that too. One of things that happened to me during my data download (you'll hear about that) was someone (YES someone as in a person) circling around me in in counterclockwise fashion (almost like a Manchurian Candidate) and saying something really dumb like, "I am not someone you know, I am just...." whatever came next, it's hard to remember sometimes.

Hey if you can AP, you're welcome to talk to him he's usually always around, or some protege of his.

Here you go, try these, they're all me:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7827&whichpage=7
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8725

Dark Knight · December 12, 2003, 04:52:52

All right new question...although this is something I ahve mentioned before.

Is it possible for someone to put something (neg energy, piece of themselves) inside you meanwhile creating sensations to trick the target's mind into thinking the opposite...something being taken out? Like a cloaking or manipulation of the senses (like having control over your nerve endings, you put your hand on a furnace top and the perp controlling the nerve endings sends a message saying, this is what cold feels like). Mick I know your answer on this but I wanted to post this question again one more time.

DemonHunter · December 12, 2003, 06:14:27

It might be possible for a person to put negative energy inside another person.

My question.

Where are your guardians? They should be around to protect you from negatives. Your guardians should be there for you without you having to call for them.
It is very odd that these things continue to happen to you,and it is even more odd that your guardians are not around.
This makes no sense.

Aries · December 12, 2003, 07:51:59

Dark it sounds like you have some troubles man... I wish you the best of luck.
Also could you tell me what happened when you were abducted, and also more about what you think the military is intrested in you for?
You can post here or PM me. Thanks
-Aries

CRIMINALMIND63 · December 12, 2003, 09:34:25

Demon Hunter
Where are your guardian angels? That's a good question. I would like to know that myself. In the Kabalah I believe when you cross the viod you have to travel the process without your guardian angels. Case my be what my atatcker may have done to me was banish my angels from me. Just a thought.
Yes it's possible to but energy into another person. I have felt the sensation. If you but a thought in someone head you are sending it with energy.
Dark I understand what you said about the rotating. My attacker has shown me this. He has also told me that I feel and sense what other's do. Not quite the case but I'll leave it at that.

Dark Knight · December 12, 2003, 15:02:58

Crim,

Those links you sent me look excellent, I haven't gotten a chance to read all the way through.

My books on mind control (especially the senate hearings on MKULTRA) have come in and I guess I will be diving in to them. I'm hoping it will give me a better insight into what is going on. I can figure out most but not everything. Oh, Metal Ice, if you're out there somewhere, the Psy Vamp book by Slate FINALLY arrived. Now I'm waiting for a case of Hematite Rings (various sizes) that I got off of ebay (astral brass knuckles?). I'm still waiting for my 9 Hematite stones though.

Crim, let me read what you sent me and I'll get back to you, but thanks again. Why don't you post the link, especially the Telepathy one?

Aries · December 15, 2003, 07:37:58

Yo Crim what links?
Hey dark whats a hemitate stone?
-Aries

Dark Knight · December 16, 2003, 00:09:20

Hematite? It's an Iron based mineral you can typically buy where ever other rock/minerals are sold, you know like rose quartz, amethyst crystal, citrine, stuff like that. Another good one is bloodstone (same reason, iron). It grounds your energy.

I go to bed at night with Hematite, Bloodstone, and garnet in my slippers. May not be comfortable and doesn't stop the attacks but it does make it harder for my perp and his associates to get through my feet.

First night I used the stuff, something short was trying to open up my aura at my feet. Wasn't getting very far, and finally, out of frustration, it left my feet and zoomed up to my head to glare at meet. I turned my head in the general direction of where it was and said, "Aww, we having a wittle pwoblem getting in?" It didn't say anything just continued to glare.

I also have 3 hematite necklaces I wear to bed, but it doesn't seem to be enough. They can't get into my feet, so now they're attacking my heart, lungs and abdomen (left side keeps ripping open). My 9 hematite stones still haven't come in, but my box of hematite rings should be here soon, please, please, please. Think astral brass knuckles, as well as grounding.

Aries · December 16, 2003, 07:50:01

Sounds bad... it sucks that they pester you so much. I hope you find a way that you can finally get rid of them... I will keep my eyes open for some thing that may help you.
Dunno if I will ever find anything, but I will keep my eyes open.
Hope your hemitate stones work out for ya Dark.
-Aries

Dark Knight · December 10, 2003, 05:49:38

Crim this might fall under your question some weeks back as to what constitutes an attack.

After reading what I have so far and speaking to a few people I'm developing a theory...and the theory involves CRI and the statement I read in PSiPog about some shields being able to block everything but telepathy.

I've been told constantly that when you're attacked, go after your perp, do this, do that. I've done this, done that, the attack never FELT like it stopped or slowed. After a while of expending energy you just stop, feel demoralized, and just conserve energy to deal with whatever the perp has attached to you.

I'm now considering something...is it possible the inital "sensations and feelings" of the attack are telepathically implanted? ie, give the appearance that an attack is taking place when in fact nothing is actually physically happening to you? You retaliate thinking something is there when in fact you're battling against a telepathic phantom that doesn't exist, it's all happening in your mind.

The imaginary, perceived attack continues, you feel frustrated and defeated because what you are doing has no effect, your will weakens, your self confidence weakens,...your natural defenses and shields drop!

Once dropped, something is attached in the exact location of where the "fake attack" was intiated, giving the appearance it was all one stroke, one experience, one set of actions.

If it is telepathic (may even be someone's sick concept of a telepathic greeting), and it operates the way I have just described, that would explain a lot.

But I need more info about telepathy, it's strengths and weaknesses before I can genuinely know.

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