accepting attacks

[Anonymous]

I am not sure that accepting someone else's bad karma is a good idea. If they did something to attract bad karma, then it is best to let them have the bad karma teach them their lesson. At the same time, if you know someone who is going through a bad experience, then it is a good idea to help them out. The worst that can happen is that you attract good karma to yourself for trying to help someone in need.[]

[kakkarot]

people don't need bad karma to "teach" them a lesson. i've helped lots of people by talking with them and helping them understand themself and their situation, no dire consequences needed []. in fact, it works better to give them good energy and give them hope and caring than it does to be all like "you were bad, you're now being punished!".

~kakkarot

[volcomstone]

Im not saying individual karma, Im thinking global karma

think about source/sink dynamics, if someone or something is grounding all this negativity and isolating/stabilizing it so that it cannot be "used" up, then there would be an deficit of neg karma,

now I am thinking, if there isn't "enough" bad karma to go around does the cosmos dish out more? or is it replaced by good karma?

one persons good karma, may be anothers bad karma.  I.E.  I got a raise today, but they had to fire someone else for it.

how can you trully be aware of all your karmic consequences? are we expected to search out every connection we have and make sure everyone is happy with it? or is it better just to let things go as they naturally do, and just deal with the neg karma when it  comes?

its a difficult concept to grasp, I don't like the idea that you can carry karmic baggage from one life to another, if it is true, how do we get out of this stupid circle?

[wendi]

I think you may be spending too much time thinking about karma.  There is no such thing as I.E.  I got a raise today, and someone else got fired.  If you're really into scientific thinking, try to recognize when you cross over the line into metaphysics.  They are not the same.  Science is about specific things of this world, and metaphysics is more of a speculative nature: you're using the narrow premises of science to explain something of a more symbolic nature.


Air, breathe life into me
And connect me to the Great Spirit
Who inspires all and dwells in all.
Great Spirit, send me your blessing of inspiration and serenity.

I take refuge in the Buddha.

[volcomstone]

quote:If you're really into scientific thinking, try to recognize when you cross over the line into metaphysics. They are not the same

I disagree, I think a scientific outlook can improve any theory, metaphysical, symbolic or otherwise.  
science is a doctrine  and method of critical thought, not a subject.

what I interpreted from your message is that "I shouldn't ask questions about something I can never find the answer"
thats a very dangerous way of thinking, just like thinking, "everything has already been discovered by science"

quote: Science is about specific things of this world, and metaphysics is more of a speculative nature: you're using the narrow premises of science to explain something of a more symbolic nature.

science isn't about specific things, theorys are about specific things, and science also rely's on speculation, but through experimentation and experience a theory evolves,
no theory will ever be "100% correct"  its an impossibility, we are interpreting everything

what I Interpreted from your post is a criticism of my interpretation method,  while I agree your position is valid (and everyone is entitled to their own opinion)  ,

I respectivly disagree

[wendi]

Dear Volcomstone:

A scientific outlook CAN improve any theory, in the sense of being objective.

Your statement--"Science is a doctrine and method of critical thought..."--confuses science with logic.

You should always always always ask questions about something you want to understand.

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[beavis]

What exactly is karma? The only thing similar to it I've seen is the energy connections things have to other things which cause other things to happen. The more you think about or use a connection, the stronger it gets. I think if you tried to take somebodys bad connection, you might get some of it, but the strength of theirs would stay the same or increase. You would make it worse.

[Kalonek]

quote:Originally posted by volcomstone

think about source/sink dynamics, if someone or something is grounding all this negativity and isolating/stabilizing it so that it cannot be "used" up, then there would be an deficit of neg karma,

I think christians would call this person "Jesus" and bad karma "sins". It's exactly that ...

For your other questions, as i understand it, karma only appears after a free-will action you do personally. You can't get bad karma because someone else was fired etc. You're not directely responsible for this. Otherwise we'd all get a mountain of bad karma whatever we do : what you eat, do etc.
I also personally think that we are overconsidering the karma in our lives. I think its impact is not so important, especially if we repent of a bad action for exemple. And even then, the action has to be really bad to affect karma and even interact with our next choice of life. Or really good too. For the whole idea of good and bad karma makes it like if we were in a tv game, where we do things well just to get good karma. If i do a good action, i just do it because i know it's good and not to be rewarded for it. For in this case it wouldn't be that good anymore, for motivated by some kind of avidity of "good points".
It's why i think that karma mostly comes into our life when there is a big need to balance things in order for the person to continue her evolution normally.

[pod3]

Anyone who makes you feel like a scapegoat furthers their own bad karma.

[wendi]

If someone makes you feel bad it's because they were mean, you misunderstood them, or you've got a chip on your shoulder.

Karma is just another word for morality.



Herne, Horned One
Hunter 'neath the Northern Sun
Watcher at the gates of winter
Flame on the Wind

[volcomstone]

what if you accept someone elses bad karma? what if you try and become a sink for negativity? will it lessen the global karma?  

what if you accept someone elses pain? if you knowingly accept someone elses bad karma, for reasons of good, wouldn't that simply turn it into good karma?