Friend being harassed my negative entity -need hlp

[holy reality]

Skeptical side:
Maybe she should go to a sleep center?

There could be something significantly wrong with her sleep cycles, hence making her prone to "hallucinations" during the day... you know what it's like not getting good sleep and freaking out over little things, etc... feeling like people are watching you.

She could have some sort of REM disorder or something causing her to scratch herself in her sleep.... or maybe it could be going on in NREM too.. I don't know.

I don't see why she can't break free, it's all an issue of confidence, she needs to realize that SHE needs to make it go away, not someon else, and until that happens it WILL NOT STOP.....

I went through something kind of sort of akin to this, and it got better by not exposing myself to stories of demons, and by confronting what was going on, figuring it out.... in fact taking the figure, subduing it (with violence) then acknowladging its existence... even telling it I loved it a few times.

I haven't seen it in a long time since then.... but there used to be where I'd be in SP and I'd know I could get out and get free, but it would be holding me down, and it was just the FEAR and uncertainty that made it to where I couldn't break free... once I turned that fear into anger and realized I had to take it on and get rid of it, it was effortless to break free of it's 'control' and give it a good beating.

But if it's a creation of her violence won't solve much, just make her feel in control, what's important is talking to it, trying to understand how it could be a part of you, where it is coming from and why, telling it to leave you alone, or to tell you why it is bothering you..... even loving it.... trying to set it free.

Also for feeling the presence on the bed, I'm sure she has conditioned herself to associate sleep with that "presence" so therefore whenever she looks at the bed she can be prone to feeling it there.

Spiritual side:
Maybe her house is haunted.... ? Having so many bad experiences in the bed and in her room could rack up "negative energy" and so she should try some sort of energy clearing thing..... visualizing white light filling the room (especially while lucid if possible) opening windows now and then... etc.

(that didn't do anything at all for me, just a placebo)


I think when people with really repressed issues (we all have them) get adept at lucidity they tend to encounter things like this a lot worse than they normally would, because they finally have the IDEAL environment to confront and deal with their fears, they are actually interacting with their subconscious so it is finally free to directly try to talk to you and say "hey, something is wrong!"

That's just my theory anyway. I still have really screwed up dreams (lucid ones too, usually) from time to time.

[Swaroop]

difficult to say...

may be....it could be a psychiatric problem...or also an entity...

so...may be...both ways of treatment should be given simultaneously?

a psychialtrist+ some psychic measuers?

I am confused...

try to make her sure that SHE is stronger than the entity

for many entities are said to make abuse of scared people

U should??

[BOATS]

I had a crucifix that I wore all the time that was blessed as a child.  One night I took it off and a ceramic fish I kept hanging on the bathroom wall came off the wall and crashed beside the bathtub while I was bathing.  Over the past few years I came to the belief that my house had some type of entity as I would hear my name called and was even slapped while going to sleep.  I was able to photograph ORBS and once while in the RTZ in my house a strong male voice said "As now you are near the astral plane then you should know we are here to stay".  Also awaking once in semi sleep paralysis I saw an entity looking at me in my bedroom doorway that was alabaster in color and had the face of a Childs doll. I am an Episcopalian however am not overly religious but do believe in the Holy Trinity. I pray to the Virgin Mary and have put several crosses around my house.  Also I say the rosary and the Lord 's Prayer and the sign of the cross on my chest and forehead.  Recently again the RTZ in my living room I encountered a women who told me her name was Amy.  When I asked her what she was doing she stated she was my cleaning lady.  I did not want to tell her I did not have a cleaning lady and she continued going about my house.  It was a few months later a physic told me the obvious.  This women was a cleaning lady but not for dirt but clearing my house of negative energies. Things quieted after that encounter.  So perhaps your friend can follow some of the rites that have seemed to help me.  

[holy reality]

i'd like to mention something very important that i forgot...

if she seeks the help of some sort of medical professional (and i'd recommend a sleep center over a psychologist myself, since hallucinations can be caused by sleep problems, and it'd be easier to try and see if those exist than if psych problems exist) DO NOT LET HER TAKE ANTI-PSYCHOTICS OR ANTI-DEPRESSANTS...

those should be absolute last resort measures if her life is in danger... there are ALWAYS better solutions... I mean... if you are gonna turn to drugs you'd might as well just smoke pot or something, not that that will help with depression though, but it can be a lot more effective at reducing anxiety (unless you are the paranoid type of pothead) than any damn anxiety pill that has shown to cause people ot become suicidal and CANNOT be stopped taking without severe withdrawal effects.

Prescription medicine should be an absolute last resort, and chances are a psychiatrist would want to pin it on her immediately after just talking to her once, and might try to convince her she needs it and it'll make her better.

do not believe them they will overmedicate anyone who says anything.

There are only a select few that probably really NEED these pills but they'll stick you on them if you've just been sad a small bit over a while (like say something bad happened to you) and it's not a problem of chemical imbalance/depression.

As for anti-psychotics I'm not familar with taking them, other then I was once prescribed low dosages to help me sleep, which didn't do anything, but....

You don't need to go screwing around with your brain chemistry unless all else fails and you are in severe danger.

It's easier to will yourself out of depression than it is to drug yourself with that stuff and hoping for it to magically make all your problems better.

I'm not saying she's depressed either, but those guys will want to put you on meds for just about any reason.....

I cannot express enough how horrible anti-depressants are and how much they screw you up, and how sucky quitting them is... most people never quit.

I did....

[Nick]

Hi Dibbs,

Welcome to the Astral Pulse forums! [] Thank your for your topic. I thought that perhaps it would be better suited for our Welcome to Psychic Self Defense forum given the subject matter. If you disagree, please pm me and we'll work something out.

Very best,

[Dibbs]

Thank you all for the suggestion, they are greatly appreciated. No problem with the move at all, Nick. I agree it is better suited here.

Thanks again, all.

Dibbs

[Nita]

Hello Dibbs
  A tall figure in a top hat is the symbol of a loa in voodoo. If she is being hexed by someone using voodoo she may be seeing this figure for that reason.
  Legba is the lord of the crossroads and guards all graveyards so that may indicate why she sees herself underground. I would suggest her chewing low john root every day. You then spit it out onto the ground with three spits. It will reverse any voodoo spells afflicting her.
     Nita

[Michael_E]

I dont know if this will be able to help you at all and this may sound a bit corny and not so powerful but...

if you encounter anything that makes you afraid in the dream/astral/rtz, smile, turn the corners of your mouth and eyes up and gently smile to yourself...relax, and reach out towards feelings of love within you extend it outside yourself, move on.

[Sentential]

It sounds like your friend is going thru alot of the same things that I did. Ignoring the problem isnt a good idea. They are there and they are harrasing her.

The best way to deal with it is to either hunt them down or banish all of them from a given distance from her. I use both methods how I see fit.

The living have great control over the dead. If she wants them to be gone... have her confront them with great confidence and demand they leave. Demand that they go back to whatever rock they crawled from and stay there. Those sorta entities feed off of fear. They will scury away for good if she demands they leave her alone.

Spirits dont have enough energy to put up any sort of fight against a confident person.

[Dibbs]

I apologize if posting this here is out of line for some reason but I need to help a friend - and could definately use some advice. I am a neophyte regarding such matters so forgive my potential ignorance. I will try and keep this somewhat brief.

That being said, I have a friend who is constantly harrassed by some sort of negative entity.  This is either real or somehow her own making. It seems to be external though as she has many odd things happen to her both in physical and astral. She has seen a showing figure with a tophat out of the corner of her eye while awake and sometimes sleeping. She seems to think this is the cause. She has also woken up with scratches or bruises on her body on several occassions. I have tried to help by asking her to call on certain things for protection, or chant specific names, etc.

Well, she is not religious or spiritual and has a hard time acknowledging a 'higher power' so to speak. So, she called on ME (lol) the next time she was brought underground and tormented yet again (lots of bad things seem to happen).

Anyway, so I supposedly came down into the little prison they have setup for her and snuck around and whispered something to her while they were holding her down. She said I was very tall, like 9 or 10 feet (what could that mean?). I do not remember this, although I tend to astral travel and practically (sometimes literally) get pulled out of body constantly - without much effort at all. I have only recently begun to dabble with astral projection and such but have had sudden and sometimes frightenly fast progress.

The interesting thing about this is about 3 weeks went by before she had another such occurance (or felt the presence), she usually gets them every other night. She feels this 'presence' around her all the time and she feels it sit with her on her bed when she is awake (even with friends over). She spoke with me quite upset over a guitar falling from its stand and then being put back up quickly. It shakes her bed as well. She does not do drugs - just had to throw that out there.

I know this all may sound a little nuts but I really don't think ALL (if any) of it is her creation. I seem to be the only one that believes she is not crazy. Anyway, is there anything I can do to help her? She said the actual nightmares have lessened but the other things are still there.

Also, she is lucid when most of this happends (at night) but she cannot control it or break free. She says she is 'shown' things that she would describe as her worst nightmares. Sort of 'A Christmas Carol' type of situation where something shows her all of this, then she is pulled down into the prison I mentioned before. This always starts with her smiling. I feel compelled to mention that - I don't know why.

Is it possible that a part of me might have actually helped her while I was asleep or would this just be totally her doing? She says whatever it is seems to be afraid of me and whenever we chat she feels it leave. I have prayed for her and given myself suggestions before falling asleep that I will attempt to help her while dreaming. I am not yet good enough at astral travel / lucid dreaming to try and consciously figure this out.. But my subconscious suggestions before sleep has allowed me to work out things before.

I just want to help her and I seem to be the only one who believes her. I don't know if this is something internal or external (or both). Perhaps the mere fact that I am the only one who attempts to understand her has given her strength somehow to deal with this herself? Or could I have actually done something without realizing it?

So, can anyone make sense out of this? Any ideas for helping her or insights about the cause or anything would be fantastic! Thanks.

Peace,

Dibbs