Astral intruders

[WitnessToHim]

I could use some  help from someone who has been traveling for a long time.  I have been projecting for about 9 years and didn't really know I was astral traveling until recently.  I thought I was just lucid  dreaming.  But now, seemingly coincidentally since becoming a Christian and witnessing the actual Christ Jesus in the astral plane I have been experiencing very unwanted visits by astral spirits.  My journeys used to be enjoyable with wonderful scenery etc.  However now as I'm meditating down to the astral conscious plane and the body sleeps I repeatedly cone into the astral conscious with spirits already in and around my sphere of influence.  They even tug at my feet and try and pull me from my body.  It makes sleeping almost impossible.  Also, I have one spirit that is on my back like a giant bear hug but from the back. I cant shake him free and or I have pulled at his arm and even bit it once.  It didn't seem to bother him.  I am always paralyzed from saying the name"Jesus" although I can speak perfectly fine otherwise.  When I do get out of my body "they" often at least 3-4 will try and get me to be afraid or taken into a dark pit or try and seduce me sexually.  Quite often they have tried to extract "my force" for lack of a better term from me.  I usually can stop that from happening.  Is there anything I can do to protect myself and or eliminate their harassment?

Desperate

Jim

[Projector]

Hello Jim,
I am glad to hear of your strong faith in King Jesus. My forum that was created by me deals with how God is the center of all my obes.

So I can pretty much understand that these are unwelcomed spirits. And before you feel that you are going to have an ode you should bless your room that you are in by saying

"If you are not here in the name the LORD then I order you to leave this place and seek your punishment that the Lord will give you"

This will get rid of these unclean spirits in your room. I have done this and now when I project out of my body I will only see the Lord's watchers protecting my room or sometimes a friendly entity that I will be able to have a chat with.











-The Projector-

[esotericus]

Sounds like you need to aggressively exert the authority Christ invested in his followers. I have found "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus" to be an effective banishment whether it's in an oobe or a lucid dream. I hope the following is encouraging:

9 -Battling a demon-09-19-2004-2:57:45 AM

Prelude: for a day or two before this experience, something evil was brooding near the door where a devout senior citizen I will refer to as "Mr. Cruz" lived in the next room. I tried to dismiss it as a perverse fearful thought, but the sense of evil persisted in spite of prayer against it. The following is the story my encounter with and banishing of that evil entity. This was the 3rd night, I think.

In the experience, I beat up a demon and commanded it into total submission. I laid in bed, face down, in the dark. This creature lifted me from my bed so that I awoke (within the experience, not physically consciously awake). I moved around I and I could feel what seemed like a small, light creature, like a monkey, on my back. I grabbed it with a swift, hard motion and flung it to the ground. The thing was small, about two feet tall, hideously ugly and dark gray with wings having a thin membrane like a bat. It made no sound, but resisted my efforts to force it back to its own dimension and tried to jump back on me. I wrestled with it and rebuked it using the name of Jesus and commanding it to heel like a dog. I smacked it against the wall over and over and threw it out the window. I pronounced a final "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus" as it fell to the ground.

           I awoke feeling energized and encouraged and slept peacefully. The fearful energy that was there was gone. I have no doubt that the thing most likely tried to torment the old man, who sometimes complained of demonic oppression. I thanked God for the unique victory and still do.

[Van-Stolin]

I have had similir experiences as well.  Mostly you should concentrate on yourself.  There are a number of ways to defend yourself.  A common one is to imagine yourself surrounded in a bright white light.  Beings of darkness will usually shy away at that.  

Annoucing of deities also works, I have found that it doesn't matter which.  As I have stated a few.

You could also you 'physical force'.  If you are good with any weapons, then you could try this as well.  I have a sword with me in the astral and anytime anything threatens me, pulling out my blade will usually tell them otherwise.

From my experiences.  These beings tend to think of you as weak and will try to manipulate you to think that way as well.  If you just have a firm will and stand up to them, they will quickly back off.

There are more powerful ones though, these are the ones that I recommend that you get a friend to help you with or if you are confident enough.  Confront yourself with white light or with a weapon.

Mostly they decided it isn't worth the extended energy to try to get you and go off in search of easier prey.

[Kodemaster]

Jim:

The symptoms you describe are similar to those of sleep paralysis. I'm not saying that it is or isn't, but you may want to speak to your doctor.

Best,

Jeni

[mthorn25]

Jim- I have had a similar experience, and it occurred exactly as I achieved astral sight(after the paralysis and vibrations) I felt something, sort of pulling at my legs, and I know this sounds strange, but it started "working it's way up" so to speak, similar to your seduction experience.  I could feel a negative presence along with this physical feeling on my legs, but whatever it was, it wasn't visible to me.  Strange stuff!
I've often heard that those who work at having a strong faith are the ones who get the most temptation thrown their way, maybe this is one of those "tests of faith" that you're experiencing...

[Projector]

Actually the entities that you can not see with your 'astral eyes' are fallen angels sent to 'weave' you off course of your faith.





-The Projector-

[Kodemaster]

WitnessToHim,

Do these experiences occur in more of a sleep state or after you've entered the astral? If you're seeing these beings in the astral, that is because EMOTION FUELS YOUR SURROUNDINGS. As sad as it may sounds, a lot of fundamentalist Christians spend the bulk of their time inducing fear into the people around them (as well as condemning things like astral projection), so the thoughts of Jesus in your head are probably creating some fear, which are causing you to see those entities.

Don't be afraid of them, as fear will make things worse. Don't let anyone tell you that they're demons or anything to that effect. They're just astral beings and they can't do anything to harm you on this earth, and really can't do  much more than scare you in the astral.

Sometimes it helps to take a break from astral projection and go back to it later. Try to relax, meditate and think of positive things. Work out, practice your hobbies, have some fun in your life. Then go back to projecting when you're ready. It will come back to you.

Best,

Jeni

[mactombs]

Actually the entities that you can not see with your 'astral eyes' are fallen angels sent to 'weave' you off course of your faith.

Actually, there are 7 different fallen angels. All of them know how to be invisible, but only #6 is always invisible - even after you shout the Twelve Shouts of Evoking of Divine Hectograms of Light! The fallen angels are:

1) Principals - If it's none of the other 6, it's this one.
2) Gray - This fallen angel takes on the shape of ETs to scare people who no longer believe in incubus or succubi.
2) Grey - Similar to as above, but speaks with an English accent. Less likely to probe.
3) Demono - A 100,000 of these little suckers can dance on the head of a pin!
4) Hexer - The spirit of witches that were burned at the stake and are still angry.
5) Pussomon - The cats of the witches burned at the stake, only these have evolved on entering the astral into a new battle shape.
6) Paranor - These invisible angels usually always stand behind you. Whenever you feel someone watching you, or you're alone and feel like someone else is in the room, it's one of these.
7) Diablar - These look like Satan, but don't be tricked! If you made an astral sword and used the Horadic cube to put Runes on it, you can usually fend this one off.

[Selski]

5) Pussomon - The cats of the witches burned at the stake, only these have evolved on entering the astral into a new battle shape.

Hey mactombs

So that's who that cat was that tried to take a huge lump out of me while I was projecting last year!  

Thanks - you've cleared up a mystery for me...

Sarah