How would that theory explain telepathy to someone that is not a creation of your mind? Such a person must exist if you think the universe does not revolve around you, you being the only real person.
Think of it this way. Just picture that the entire universe as you understand it is a huge hologram, and this hologram is programmed to display whatever you, the individual hold or assume to be true. Now this hologram appears real in every sense of the word, you can breathe the air, you can eat the fried dough at the fair, you can even communicate telepathically with other persons. Now if you believe that someone or something in this universe ALSO has the same abilities to alter, shape, and affect the reality YOU experience, then guess what - according to belief it is done, and so it will appear to be in every concievable way that this is so. The more you belief something to be true, the more it will appear to be true in the world around you. I'm not saying noone else exists in your reality, just that everyone that appears in your reality is a reflection of the inner states, beliefs, and frames of mind you carry.
I'm just saying, if you set it firm in your mind that some evil spirit or entity or rogue psychic is out somewhere waiting to terrorize you, then don't be suprised when it actually happens... you basically manifested it into being.
True, to a point.
You're concentrating on the concept as if the door swings one way...only you create the hologram. The door swings both ways. Did it ever occur to you to wonder how an entity views you (are you their holographic projection) and did it ever occur to you to wonder what would happen if said entity set it's mind on making you their version of reality?
Your personal reality exists as long as people agree to respect and reinforce the boundaries which allow your personal reality to exist to begin. That can disappear at any moment (ask any Jew, Cambodian, Rwandan, or Croat...someone denied their reflection existed or even mattered. Is there any difference between an energy with a physical body and one without). 11Sept should have made that obvious. Suddenly your personal reality is not only not recognized it is deliberately shattered to turn you into the reality belonging to another.
Do you believe you're all powerful, that your capacity to create your holographic view of the world is not dependent on the cooperation and respect of "other"? Is the world just "self"? You don't believe you could be someone else's hologram?
There is a spark of truth in what you say. Any belief system begins with "self" and evolves to "other". You're only concentrating on "self". Start concentrating on "other."
Interesting, but it doesn't really matter how another entity or person views you. Think about it. Why would you even waste your energy considering how another entity would view you in their reality, unless they are a loved one and you want to view things from their perspective. That is an utterly dispowering belief, that leaves the individual almost completely devoid of any power or control over their own reality. My guess is anyone with such a belief structure would develop some type of serious personality defect or illness. To believe something like that would be to make yourself a prisoner in your own skull. If you really think your personality depends on how other people view you then, maybe since you accepted that belief structure it would apply to you - but it is by no means a natural law or principle. It is a door that swings both ways, in a way you are as much a reflection of the people around you as they are a reflection of your inner states. Its a mutual attraction. Each and every human being creates and shapes their own reality, we just happen to have many similar states of consciousness - thats why they call it a mass consciousness. In regard to 9/11, as shocking as it is, none dies that has not already accepted it. Sadly those individuals probably attracted that circumstance by assorbing the negative hype & threats coming from mass media sources and from fear - and a lack of understanding how habitual or strongly held thoughts affect reality - brought that circumstance into their own personal being.
Dear Arakara
You are free to disagree but....whether we like it or not not there is more to the spiritual universe than just Angels. This is not just my belief it is what i've learned from experience. To deny that other beings exist is just putting our spiritual heads in the sand. It is also lopsided thinking. It's like someone else saying they don't believe in energy because they've never felt it, or seen it etc..
The law of attraction is not the only law operating in the universe. To only focus on that is an over-simplification of the spiritual world. Thinking that the victims of 911 ,basically, must of believed in terrorism or something similar etc... to cause their own deaths is the old blame the victim trap. This is a nice way to make the ego feel safe and in control and it sounds a little arrogant, sorry, to me to think we know specifically what is the Divine plan.
Perhaps one of the reasons for 911 is so others would develop a deep compassion,empathy and love for strangers and a sense of a larger community.
The true reasons that it happened are multiple---multi---layered. Many people were touched by that event. There are some souls that play on the world stage for the benefit of all, others are at work behind the scenes.
celeste
[bigchar][bigchar]I am not saying that entities, forces, angels, demons, do not exist; just that their is no possible way they can hold power over you that you DO NOT give them.
As for 9/11, I know it sounds like blaming the victim but again their consciousness must have been condusive to the circumstance for the circumstance to enter their consciousness.
>>Perhaps one of the reasons for 911 is so others would develop a >>deep compassion,empathy and love for strangers and a sense of a >>larger community.
[B)]I sorry, but I do not see any greater love for strangers or humanity as a result of this tradegy. What I do is complete wholesale disregard for humanity & human rights in the name of the "War on Terror", I also the scapegoating of an entire religion (Islam), the brutal occupation of two countries so far that were not involved in the events of 9/11, and a slow transformation of the American government into suttle yet deadly "Nazi-lite" form.
Further to link a mass murder such as 9/11 as serving some higher purpose of bringing love or transformation is utterly replusive and offense to those killed. Under this logic, why don't we all start killing innocent people to uplift humanity, maybe the more people that die the further we will be uplifted!? I think Hitler (and now GWB) operated under that same logic.
The arguments are getting circular and contradictory.
I'm just saying that when you put alot of energy into something that tends to make it more powerful, whether its a belief about angels, entities, or "negs" plotting to attack you... so why do it[|)]
Hello Ararakar
Maybe if you stopped focusing on the "complete wholesale disregard for humanity & human rights" and the "scapegoating of an entire religion" umm where was I? .... and seeing the government turning "nazi lite" etc, etc... MAYBE, if you would stop focusing on that and giving it power it would not "enter your consciousness" because have you heard?? we create our own reality and none of that will happen unless you give it energy ... because in doing that "then you basically manifest it into being." and so henceforth, heretofore and furthermore, "their is no possible way they can hold power over you that you DO NOT give them." thank you [:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P][:P]
arakara
you have never been attacked before, i think i can assume that from what you speak. Ask someone that has. I have been attacked for the last 5 years. I assume you are not advanced in your knowledge in magic and most importantly the effects of magic on yourself. There are tpyes of magic and I would also say there are levels of magic also. I use this term to explain in simple terms for people to understand. The first level I would call sutle. This is where energy in the form of thoughts are sent to you. I say thoughts because you think they are your thoughts. Whether negative or positive thoughts. Some negative thoughts are good as- this causes me pain so i don't like it. But the thoughts you get are more complex as this sometimes you get a negative thought when you should have a positive thought and vice verse. The you can the emotions, this is a stronger form and the feelings you feel are within you so you think it's coming from you. until you gain knowledge of yourself and your aura you know what is coming from inside you and what is coming from outside. I have seen energy bounced to several people before and they repeated the thoughtform that was sent from the energy. I know this from experience. Then you have telepathy, this form of energy is distinquishable due to the voice. Here is an example that i call a strong level. A couple weeks ago I was working and had some problem at work. I was ready to quit and decided it was my last day. I had a talk to the plant manager and after the attack I was talking to a couple guys about the metal I asked them if They had goo gone. They started laughing in my face. I felt this very strong energy around my face. Then all of a sudden my hands whent down to my hips and I said that's cause your not the female and they started whooing me. This actiiing and words where not of my own. This was the power of the person attacking me. This isn't the first time this has happened I had to keep myself on my toes because of some of the attempt and successful ones that where made for me to react the way this person wants me to. If you have read Robert's book he will tell you about this when he said he started to lose control of his arm movements. In all honestly there are people out there that know more then what they tell is possible. Some maybe due to the occult or what ever name is fit that you use. I in all honesty believe that most attacks comes from people that have knowledge. I have read much on the subject due to my experience and everything that I have come across appears that it comes from people that have the knowledge. I read many website where people would think a negative thought about someone and then suddenly something happens to the person they was thinking about. This just isn't true and from personal experience I can say it isn;t true. Now with people that have a certain ability and they think something negative about a person, like an attacker then something negative will happen. I hear negative thungs around me we all do, my attacker now thinks he can cause things to happen to people around me for saying something negative. He feels as though he has a right to play out karma on people for saying things. It's a contradiction to him attacking me and causing no karma to himself for what he says to me and no pain for what he sends me.
People create there own reality, in a sense that is true. One doesn't create an attack, and it's not easy to see through the bright side of it. If you don't like a physical event you can walk away from it. You can aways change the way you think. When someone places something on you there is a struggle on creating your world and your perception of the world. You spend more time struggling with your right to be alive let alone what you want to create in life. It's not easy to go through life knowing you shouldn't be going through what you are going through. This is just about beliefs here many people don't hold the belief of attacks but it's true. I tried to get help once from a psychic in the area. I talked to his wife and told her about the attack. She told me she didn't believe it could happen. I don't believe this woman could spend years with a man and not know about the ability this man has. My attackers wife knows he does candle magic but doesn't know what else the man can do? Talk about sheilding the mind, this isn't a real shield. It's self denial and self denial only helps when you are on the wrong side.
You give them power, many will say this but it's not true either. They have power but there is also more to this. I'm not sure what was all dne to me. The power over me has to do with what has been done to me.
I just now come across nita's website, there is much I have learned. Even more is what may have been done to me. One think is I was hexed by my attacker. He told it himself. My daughter called him after my attack thinking she could get him to help me. He told her someone must have hexed me over the phone.
My attacker is using the qabalah to attack me. He sending me energy to these chakras. The hips is just one way he has done it. I get energy sent to my eyes and temples.
White magic channels can be used to harm people. You can send energy to help people to their chakras or channels instead of sending positive they send negative.
Most people that have a negative attitude have them because of what they learn when growing up. We are to learn to get over some of the negative attitudes in live this is the lessons in life. When someone does magic of this sort on you it's no longer a lesson in life you are to learn.
I understand the people here looking for help fron real attacks. Your first instinct is to survive and most are having a hard time doing this. It took me almost two years to get over the instinct.
I now have to work on the energy that is sent to me. It's not easy having energy pouring into your head and the energy is heavy and hurts. Before I had the energy feel as though it was frying my brain.
It's more then thinking whether something has power over you or not I don't feel my attacker has power over me. He has had power over me. About the only thing he doesn't have power over anymore is my mind. He was able to influence my thoughts in a sutle way in the past but isn't any more. He has also been able to put words in my mouth. But not my thoughts. It's a little hard for some people to understand until you actually go through something like this.
Not everyone out there that has a bad thought come to them is being attacked. We all have negative thoughts according to our likes and dislikes. Look at it this way. I think that it's my right to not be attacked. I had physical problems because of this attack and so has my family. We have a right to feel negative about what has happened to us. With this negativity it also tells us that we deserve something better, thus we deserve a better life then what we are living a positive behind the negative.
If you want more understanding, I'm more than willing to share my experience and my knowledge that I have gained. I in no way know everything and I can speak mostly from experience.
ok this is one of the most screwed up threads yet.... i think a deletion (that even a word???) is in order. im not one for deleting most topics but this is just totally f**ked. readin it just gives me a head ache so somethin aint right.
im sure the office workers sitting at their desks would not have ever givin a plane crashing through their windows a thought let alone conciouslly condusing it.... and if you turn around and say well a large enough group did.. then even if the majority gave it energy, the minority that was effected by it didnt which means that each person in that minority does NOT have control over their own lives.
then you could say that they sub-conciouslly brought it on... which means THEY COULDNT CONTROL WHAT THEY BROUGHT ON
this thread/argument is not going to get anywhere so theres no point in me continueing to prove you wrong Arakara
PS. i couldnt be stuffed reading through Criminal Mind's post so if im repeating then im sorry... out of my control!! WHOA!!
What's the URI of Nita's website?
Hi Risu no Kairu
Nita's website: www.astralhealer.com
cheers! celeste
Hi Criminal Mind, actually I am very familiar in the works of magic, thought forms, and telepathy, I am even more experienced in the works of remote influence. The reality creation thing something I've learned through personal experience & acquired knowledge from various readings. I myself have experienced "incidents" from individuals I guess you might "psychic vampires". What I did is basically reprogrammed them so that they no longer needed, depended on, or desired to perform such acts - and now they are much more positive people to be around. I have also had various other experiences, including : OOBE's, telepathy, precognition, etc (not to mention various experiences with thought form constructs). When I say we control our own reality I also say that from experience, as I came to that conclusion before I even knew books existed about the subject.
Celeste, I was extremely happy to read your post! It seems we have finally come to the light. I am very excited for you!
>>we create our own reality and none of that will happen unless you give it energy
That is very true, Celeste. I myself have been somewhat slow to realize the links between political events and personal consciousness, but have come increasingly proficient at it lately. Thats why in my reality, all those things you talked about: police state USA, using Islam as scapegoat, nazi-lite america, etc.; are being scaled back in my reality. If I truely believed in those things then I would probably be reaping the benefits of my beliefs - in a detention center somewhere. I have never seen a transformation in someone so complete and fast as Celeste did. She got like *snap* THAT![|)]
As for you Syke, I have to laugh at the idea of you proving me wrong. As for the 9/11 thing, why don't you try picturing and focusing on a plane crashing when your on it, go for a flight somewhere, and find out if I was right (no please don't actually do that - I am ready know I'm right). I apologize if I sound rude or anything like that, its just that I've never met people as mentally undeveloped before - so its kind of like a new experience for me[;)]
arakara
I had this person make me hear balls running through my head and see colors. I assume with good cause the colors where for the chakras. The balls are still in question. I found a few topics on sound and tones. This would be like tuning your chakras to what they want or having control over them. I have talked to other people going through somewhat the same situation I am. They also appear to have had soemthing done to their chakras. We are all trying to undo what has been done to us. I read enough about magic to understand it's all based on energy and energy runs through your chakras. There is also somethign else, it's not only me that has been told this. My attacker told me he preauratized me. Another person told me that her attacker said he blanketed her and has her fully covered now. Some might call this overshadowing or it might be known as another terminology. I had my aura dragged by this person. I could feel the energy and it felt heavy, it felt like i (aura) was being pulled down. This person may have open my aura up to him. I had cords to this person and they where removed. It's hard to find help in the area when he is known by the people you would seek to find help.
I was wondering if you have experience with this things do you have any suggestions on what might a person do to stop this. I have experienced many things, not only does this person do magic on me I see how he can do it to other people around me. Which I assume he is using remote viewing. Most people aren't aware of energy.
I know what it is like to be drained of energy, I almost passed out several time from this person. There is something else, that would appear to be a drain of energy but I wouldn't say it was, yuo would have the appearance of not having energy but you can feel the energy sent to you but the energy is a heavy feeling, there are no negative thoughts sent with it just a feeling of being weighed down. Does anyone know what this would be. It's not draining my energy, it's close to a depression energy. I have also been pumped with energy that has kept me up all night.
I do have some idea what might be going on in this situation. My best advice would be to build up an auric shield around you. If you are familiar with how to construct thought forms, I suggest after you build your defenses up that you send out a few vampire type ones to your attacker & keep them powered for an extended period of time (weeks, months, whatever you feel good with). If I were you I would attack that person with a consistent vigor, so they would never bother you again. I suggest you not personally take in the energy they suck from the person but redirect it to something else - like a plant - that will continually absorb it. I never heard of the term "preauratized" but by "blanketed" they probably mean they have the person engulfed some type of thought-form. Here is a simple technique for building up your aura:
Finger Interlock Technique
Step 1
Interlock gesture
Immediately upon suspecting a psychic or vampire attack (or if an
attack is already underway), join the tips of the thumb and middle
finger of each hand to form two circles. Then bring your hands
together to form interlocking circles
Step 2
Enegy Protection
While maintaining the interlocked circles, close your eyes and
envision a shield of powerful energy enveloping your total aura and
effectively repelling any invasion of external forces.
Step 3
Enegy Infusion
Envision the inner core of your energy system, pulsating with power
and infusing your toatl being with abundant energy.
Step 4
Affirmation
Allow the infusion to reach its peak, then affirm: My total being is
infused with powerful ergy. I am surrounded by a protective shield
of power. I am safe and secure.
In addition to preventing an imminent vampire attack or terminating
an attack twhich is already in progress, the finger Interlock
Technique instangly energized the aura and erects a protective outer
shield, which we call the halo effect. The shield typically remains
in place for several hours to effectively deflect other vampire
invasion efforts. Although it was designed to instantly repel the
onslaught of vampirism, the technique can be used to energize and
protect the aura from any negative invasion of external forces. It
can be used to induce a relaxed, tranquile state, or to promote
restful sleep. The procedure can be adapted to extinguish anxiety in
such situations as job interviews and public presentations. Students
find the technique particularly effective in reducing anxiety and
stimulating higher thought processes.
This is from the book, "Aura Energy" by Joe H. Slate, PH.D. The book
has many techniques, including how to view & empower the aura. Its
definitely worth it
Thank you very much. The information is very valuable. I hope others being attacked also get this information. I will definately look into this book. I know alot of my problem stems from the aura. I thank you again!
PS, Criminal Mind:
Might I also suggest that you stop communicating with this alleged attacker? I typed up the word "preauratized" in google and found some more of your posts relating to these incidents. From what you said in those posts on the yahoo boards seems like this is a little than just a vampire attack. You said this individual is using you to "steal" other people's souls & has them "corded" to you. If you are actually believing and buying into these things he's saying then you are only making the situation worse. I suggest you take out some quiet time and start meditating or clearing your mind.
Here is the post I'm referring to (from yahoo researchtheoccult group):
>I THINK i NEED A LITTLE MORE THAN THIS THIS MAN TOLD ME HE HAS ME
> SPOOLING PEOPLE AND THAT I AM STEALING THEIR SOULS AND THAT I DEALT HE SAID HE PREAURATIZED ME HE DRAGGED MY AURA BEFORE OR THAT IS WHAT HE CALLS IT HE ALSO SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THAT WHEN HE SO CALLED DRAGGED MY AURA THAT IT MAYBE MY ETHERAL BODY AND HE IS TELLING ME HE IS CLONING IT I'M NOT SURE I CAN BELEIVE EVER THING THAT HE TELLS ME, ALSO HE TOLD ME THAT HE HAS CORDED ALOT OF PEOPEL TO ME AND THAT THEY FLY BY NIGHT AND THAT HE FLEW THEM HE TOLD ME THAT I WOULD MAKE A GOOD WITCH AND THAT HE HAS EMPOWERED ME AND I FEEL ENERGY RUNNING THROUGH MY BODY AND MY FEET AND HANDS GET ITCHY HE KEEPS TELLING ME THAT I SERREAL HE HAS CONNECTED A CORD TO MY HEART CHAKRA I WAS TOLD THAT I HAVE A BIG WHOLE IN MY AURA HE HAS ALSO TOLD ME THAT HE IS GOING TO SWITCH MY SOUL
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You might also want to start reading books that will empower your nature, like: The Power of Your Subconscious Mind by Joseph Murphy. I used this reality-creation material for so many things (car, computer, job), and I don't even have to study for tests anymore. In fact one of the classes I took over the summer I never did the work or studied for the tests and as a result was heading into the final week with a 60% average & would have to do good on the final and presentation to make up for it; so (as you probably already guessed)I just skipped the entire last week of class, blew off the final test, and never showed up for the presentation. When my report card came in I got a C+ on that class, and when I saw the professor a week later he said "hi" and waved at me. This is not the first time I just skipped final tests or presentations (almost a habit now), though usually I end up with an A in the class.[|)]
Those that have experienced Psychic attacks are used to & pretty sick
& tired of the old "if you believe it to happen, it will" game.
I never believed what happened to me would happen, & it did. Blaming the victim is easy, understanding is not.
Psychic Attack is pretty horrible. Yes, you can overcome it. I recently have, but unless you've been there, you really don't know.
As for blaming 911 for happening to make us more compassionate?
Are you serious? I think some of this new age stuff has reached levels of insanity. Some of the ridiculous stuff new age people said to me, & they were so wrong.
Constant attacks make you weak for more attacks. Somehow, you gain a little ground & slowly , very slowly, but surely get free of it. Each situation takes different amounts of time to overcome. And it is one of the hardest things to go through. It's a nasty mind trip that some people
don't know how to fight. Does'nt make them losers, or wishing it to happen. Living with & overcoming Psychic attack is one of the toughest things to do. You have to be very brave person to live through it.
There was acult once that tried to tell people that they created everything that happened to them. Now, new age people are spouting such ridiculousness. It's a cult & I refuse to listen to any of it.
That cult I know of caused many of it's members to become mentally ill
& now we're trying to explain 911 that way.
Here's my take: A bunch of foreingers got angry with us & wanted to hurt us. End of story.
Arakara,
hopefully some of those things help someone, but did not work (most of them) on my vampire problem. I just had to move farther away from him
to make things better. Getting your mind on your own life again helps tremendously. But, first you have to gain ground slowly but surely. That's the hard part.
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The User Illusion, Cutting Consciousness Down to Size, by Tor Norretranders, published 1991 in Danish, English translation 1998.
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The Bandwidth of Consciousness
What we perceive at any moment is limited to an extremely smart compartment in the stream of information about our surroundings flowing in from the sense organs. Our consciousness processes about a millionth of the information it receives. Metaphorically, consciousness is a spotlight that shows but a tiny fraction of what's on stage.
Consciousness consists of discarded information far more than information present.
Consciousness possesses peerless agility, but at any given moment you are not conscious of much at all. To be aware of an experience means that it has passed.
Human bandwidth is ±16 bits/second. The rate varies with age:
bits/sec
Eyes 10,000,000
Consciousness 40
Ears 100,000
Consciousness 30
Skin 1,000,000
Consciousness 5
Taste 1,000
Consciousness 1
Smell 100,000
Consciousness 1
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http://www.jaycross.com/jayhoo/userillusion.html
Metal Ice, I never said that 911 for happening to make us more compassionate, I refuted that. Still, love how you ended up on the happy note of foreigners wanting to hurt you. As for what you said about psychic attacks, guess what, your absolutely right. Your 100%, irrefutably, undeniably right...because you believe it. If you believe that intensly that psychic attack was impossible, guess what, it would be! (at least your reality & existence). As for your other amazingly enlightening quotes I don't know to begin. Lets see...
>Psychic Attack is pretty horrible.
>Constant attacks make you weak for more attacks.
>Each situation takes different amounts of time to overcome. And it is one of the hardest things to go through.
>It's a nasty mind trip that some people don't know how to fight.
>Living with & overcoming Psychic attack is one of the toughest things to do.
>That cult I know of caused many of it's members to become mentally ill.
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>hopefully some of those things help someone, but did not work (most of them) on my vampire problem.
Refreshing to know that people carry such degenerate beliefs with them and are so willing to share them with others. Its like passing around the tainted cool-aid. I think one about the mentally ill cult is by far the most "interesting" one I've encountered to date. If you even try it out you, you end up with a mental illness! He even posts again how the techniques I posted "did not work". Interesting, so the finger-interlock didn't work; the vampire thought-forms with the plants didn't pan out either. Too bad, even though its strange since the vampire/plant one is my own personally developed technique. Guess blood, sweat, and tears is the best way, uh. Aaah, its refreshing that to know that some people excude such optimism, such hope, to those that need it most. God forbide we actually something positive[xx(]. I wish you all the luck in the world kid, because carrying around such disempowering belief structures (especially one that denies your own innate nature) is sure to give you some interesting life experiences.
As for the part about having to move farther away "to make things better". Thats very interesting, since I know one of the key features of remote influence (including psychic attack) is that distance is no barrier. Although, if the person is aware of his/her potential and how to use their mind then it doesn't matter if the attacker was 1 foot or 100,000 miles away, they wouldn't be able to perform any assault, not in the slightest way. Maybe your belief that moving away would help was the reason things got better? ([:O] uh oh, don't have an epifamy now! you might get a mental illness!) Its ok, Metal Ice. I'll help you out. Just tell me when you want to start, bro.
LogoRat, could it be...someone in this forum who actually is believes something positive![:D]Yes! Just because you shone some light in this dark room I'm going to post some material you might find interesting. I'm also going to post the link for 10 free complete ebooks, which include material on thought-forms for business and personal, how to remote influence, reality-manifestation, etc., in another topic on this forum. Just because LogoRat said, "maybe...its possible..."[^]
Here are some key excerpts from the book: "The Nature of Personal Reality" by Seth:
What exists physically exists first in thought and feeling. There is no other rule.
Your feelings have electromagnetic realities that rise outward, affecting the atmosphere itself. They group through attraction, building up areas of events and circumstances that finally coalesce, so to speak, either in matter as objects--or as events in "time."
You Make Your Own Reality.
...to learn to examine the nature of your beliefs, for these will automatically cause you to feel and think in certain fashions. Your emotions follow your beliefs. It is not the other way around.
You get what you concentrate upon. There is no other main rule.
Believe, then, that you are a being unlimited by nature, born into flesh to materialize as best you can the great joy and spontaneity of your nature.
In order to dislodge unsuitable beliefs and establish new ones, you must learn to use your imagination to move concepts in and out of your mind. The proper use of imagination can then propel ideas in the directions you desire.
You must therefore understand and examine your beliefs, realize that they form your experience, and consciously change those that do not give the effects you want. In such an examination you will be aware of many excellent beliefs that work for you. Trace these through. See how they were followed by your imagination and emotions. If possible, look in your own past for points where recognizable new ideas came to you and beneficially changed your experience.
Ideas not only alter the world constantly, they make it constantly.
Imagination and emotions are the most concentrated forms of energy that you possess as physical creatures.
To act in an independent manner, you must begin to initiate action that you want to occur physically by creating it in your own being.
This is done by combining belief, emotion and imagination, and forming them into a mental picture of the desired, physical result. Of course, the wanted result is not yet physical or you would not need to create it, so it does no good to say that your physical experience seems to contradict what you are trying to do.
Because ideas and beliefs have this electromagnetic reality, then, constant interplay between those strongly contradictory beliefs can cause great power blocks, impeding the flow of inner energy outward. At times, a polarization can occur. Unassimilated beliefs, unexamined ideas, can seem to adopt a life of their own. These can effectively dominate certain areas of activity.
...My mission is to remind you of the incredible power within your own being, and to encourage you to recognize and use it.
Because you consider aggression synonymous with violence, you may not understand that aggressive--forceful, active, mental or spoken--commands for peace could save your life in such a case; yet they could.
Conscious killing beyond the needs of sustenance is a violation.
The you that you consider yourself is never annihilated. Your consciousness is not snuffed out, nor is it swallowed, blissfully unaware of itself, in some nirvana.
The nature of your personal beliefs in a large measure directs the kinds of emotions you will have at any given time. You will feel aggressive, happy, despairing, or determined according to events that happen to you, your beliefs about yourself in relations to them, and your ideas of who and what you are. You will not understand your emotions unless you know your beliefs. It will seem to you that you feel aggressive or upset without reason, or that your feelings sweep down upon you without cause if you do not learn to listen to the beliefs within your own conscious mind, for they generate their own emotions.
One of the strongest general causes of depression, for example, is the belief that your conscious mind is powerless either in the face of exterior circumstances thrust upon you from without, or before strong emotional events that seem to be overwhelming from within.
Psychology, religion, science--in one way or another, all of these have added to the confusion by stripping the conscious mind of its directing qualities, and viewing it as a stepchild of the self. The schools of "positive thinking" try to remedy the situation, but often do more harm than good because they attempt to force beliefs upon you that you would like to hold, but do not in your present state of confusion.
In your terms probable events are brought into actuality by utilizing the body's nerve structure through certain intensities of will or conscious belief.
Funny, I've been trying to think myself to die for close to three years now, with no luck, I'm still here.
If I took things out of context I'd win every argument too. What was it my logic prof called it, making something unfalsifiable...philosophy with the closest attributes being the Nazi party.
Your ego does all the work and you assume all the credit for it...unashamedly so.
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Originally posted by Dark Knight
If I took things out of context I'd win every argument too. What was it my logic prof called it, making something unfalsifiable...philosophy with the closest attributes being the Nazi party.
Yes, initially I thought that here were some point that could be discussed but subsequent posts indicate that this is not in the plan.
quote:
>Psychic Attack is pretty horrible.
>Constant attacks make you weak for more attacks.
>Each situation takes different amounts of time to overcome. And it is one of the hardest things to go through.
>It's a nasty mind trip that some people don't know how to fight.
>Living with & overcoming Psychic attack is one of the toughest things to do.
>That cult I know of caused many of it's members to become mentally ill.
The above list which with the exception of the last item for I have no direct knowledge is a reasonable set of statements for those that have these experiences as a result of whatever means. To simply describe them as degenerate beliefs does not make a lot of sense but this observation probably just brands me also.[:)]
It seems that this is a 'my belief is better than your believe stupid' thread. Shame about the attitude as I said above I think there are some useful concepts to discuss here.
Light -good
Dark -bad
And you decide who's light & who's dark ?
Yeah, anyone can spout a bunch of rhetoric with smiley faces
& accuse me of being a degenerate?
I'm a realist. I am not getting away from my psychic attacker because
of being too positive or negative (as is today's obsession) but because
I MOVED AWAY FROM THE PERSON.That would be physical. Positive thinking did not do it, thinking they could do something, did NOT make it happen
because i did not kNOW of these things so hOw could I have believed it? thank god, when i needed help from people on this forum, I had good, down to earth people to help me not the angry love & light (put white light around you people & pretend everythings rosy. And I have no problem with people making helpfull suggestions as long as they have been through Psy attack (like Robert Bruce) & don't tell people that it's "ALL IN THEIR HEADS"! That's rude & smug !
>Funny, I've been trying to think myself to die for close to three years now, with no luck, I'm still here.
dark knight
very interesting indeed.
>I'm a realist
Metal Ice
[|)]Yes, you are.
>It seems that this is a 'my belief is better than your believe stupid' thread.
Mick
Never said that. We arer all here to experience life in different ways. Some people just choose different paths. Thats all.
PS:
When I said "degenerate beliefs" I meant it.
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Originally posted by arakara
>It seems that this is a 'my belief is better than your believe stupid' thread.
Mick
Never said that. We arer all here to experience life in different ways. Some people just choose different paths. Thats all.
That is my summary of the thread, I never attributed it to anyone.
Yes, some people do use different paths and perhaps some people should give others the opportunity to explain and discuss their path rather than simply insult them.
You belong to a cult then. Very Scary. And Your know it all attitude is a bit much. You choose to believe what you want.
No one choses a path in life. Sometimes things happen. As far as you calling me a degenerate, you don't know me & seem very angry & smug
in your judgement of people.
Pull up all the quotes you want. That's how you make yourself feel superior to anyone else. You are in a cult.
Again, never said you were a degenerate metal ice. If somebody said you made a bad decision does that mean they said you're a bad person? N[:O]. Those are things we call "opinions". A degenerate belief and a degenerate person are two separate things.
>you don't know me & seem very angry & smug
I'm sorry, you had me laughing at that one. Actually, I find this discussion quite humorous. You must be mistaking my sarcasm & comically placed smily faces for anger[}:)]. As for the cult thing, basically what your saying is if someone thinks a certain way, or has certain opinions that are not like yours they are a cult. I was browsing around for definitions of this word, and here's what I came up with:
Of course, the problem with the word 'cult' is that it means different
things to different folks. I'd like to put forward a behavioral definition:
An organization that uses intensive indoctrination techniques to recruit and
maintain members into a totalist ideology.
Intensive indoctrination techniques include:
1) Subjection to stress and fatigue
2) Social disruption, isolation and pressure
3) Self criticism and humiliation
4) Fear, anxiety and paranoia
5) Control of information
6) Escalating commitment
7) Use of auto-hypnosis to induce 'peak' experiences
>source: http://www.ex-cult.org/General/cult.definition
As far as I can recall I do not belong to any such group or organization, nor have I ever been subjected to any such techniques. If by saying that I belong to a cult you mean "I have ideas different then yours" then you might have something. That is, unless define college according to the definition above, then I would say yes I have been subjected to parts 1-6. My professors have yet to provide any 'peak' experiences though.
>Yes, some people do use different paths and perhaps some people should give others the opportunity to explain and discuss their path rather than simply insult them.
I don't recall calling anyone any names or insults. I thought we were discussing the issues.[;)] Here's was my basic point: a change in beliefs = a change in circumstance. Since it takes up the same amount of energy to think a positive thought as it would to think a negative thought, then why not try it out. Other people responded my refuting my orignal premise, often using off-the-wall statements to back up their claims (9/11=compassion for mankind, reality-manifestion = mental illness), so I responded with subtly incindiary remarks coupled with a solid foundational argument, all rythmically laced with smiley faces.
arakakra
You need to understand a lot of what i posted was told to me by my attacker. You wouldn't believe most of the things this man has told me you would laugh. I now laugh about the warped crap this man told me. Talk about psychic experiences wow i could fill a book. Look back at what i wrote where he told me things lol. Of couse it was to instill fear into me. I see it plainly now. But at the time not knowing much about magic and the metaphyics you don't know what is posible. Sometimes it's nice hearing someone say that now of this can happen. I guess it just shows what kind of a sick attacker I have.
I am presently working with someone to find answer to the two of us and others. This persons attacker told her about him having the keys to the doorway of the subconscious. Does anyone know what this means?
from my understanding he has the keys to her subconsciousness. Which leads me to believe this is also my experience.
I was also told that my attacked has me out of line. I would assume this is my chakras, not only that it would have to do with the alignments of the planets.
What is being done to us isn't some simple magic. These man are experienced. They have done this for atleast 30 years. As soon as something is undone they are doing something else. It's a constant battle for us.
Another thing you need to understand this is more of a possession for us. I can feel the energy this person sends me. I aslo believe this persons energy is with me. Until this is taken care of many techniques are not going to work for us.
One night i felt my attacker run through me, he was in my aura close to my chest. He came from the feet up. Robert talks about entering someone when they are out of body this man did it while i was there, it was probably on a different level but he still went through me.
I have been searching for ways to close the aura to keep them out.
Not only that my two boys have felt the energy in their feet. I was told that this is how this man got in.
This isn't a simple matter or just a vampire attack for energy.
Here is an article that goes into a little discussion on what I was talking about:
Quantum Perception
By Kevin L. Puppos
9-9-3
I find that the intellect can only carry one just so far- the tendency is for intellect to operate along limited lines of evidence and logic, and intellect has the failing that it does not adequately integrate all aspects of reality- by definition, it has to pick and choose just which things to look at, which things will fit the pre- existing sensory conditioned worldview of the intellect holder ( its systematics ). That is the process by which intellect works- NOT A BAD DEAL now, just insufficient.
One of the only ways by which to most effectively integrate one's conscious and subconscious awarenesses of reality is to MEDITATE.
Frankly, meditation is what gets most of the credit for my having been at all hopeful or capable of opening up to other views and gradually shedding my former ones.
Hierarchically driven societies such as ours do so very strongly socialize people into the ways that are acceptable to the maintaining of the leadership systems- the exercise of rulership and power, well lubricated by the workings of the money system, merely serve to perpetuate themselves along with the huge social problems that such narrow inefficient systems fail practically to address, almost by definition in the case of American Capitalism.
Raw Capitalism and unlimited ' free markets ' work best where a people have the OPTION of obtaining their basic needs from the land whereupon they live- trading at levels of economy above basic creature needs- that is why American Capitalism evolved when it did IN ONE OF THIS WORLD'S ONLY FRONTIER COUNTRIES at that time, IN THE FIRST PLACE ! Once capitalist abuses and the resulting social imbalances took hold ' back East ', people were still free to move farther into the frontier, ' Go West.....'. Which is exactly WHAT they did, and WHY THEY WENT. Except that today there is no more American ' frontier ' worth mentioning, and the planet as a whole is fast losing frontier lands as well.
Thus, Socialism is almost mandatory for the workings of a ' healthy ' centralized society ( maybe an oxymoron itself ).
The centralized distribution of resources in attempting to supply human needs IS EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE NOW- but more than any other system, money and finance in Capitalism is a very inaccurate representation of true wealth and economic status. ( That is why nations around the world are quickly adopting the new debt- free EURO- currency as their standard for International Trade. ) Business is essentially a competitive game that is played by adult humans who we forget are really overgrown children. And such children display little if any sensitivity to the plight of their fellow human beings who are lacking basic creature needs and human rights. They have not a clue the harm being perpetrated in the name of ' system ', a collective blindness eagerly indulged in by the most influential members of the ruling and wealthy caste. Any country overseas who resists the exploitation of their own nation's resources by Corporate America as endorsed by U.S. foreign policy is hysterically libeled and so conveniently labeled ' TERROR '.
That is why there is now occurring a dramatic dovetailing together of many ' liberal ' minded forces and movements in American society ( catalyzed by the New Age )- people are slowly becoming aware, or are being made aware, of a substantially different view of reality than the one we were allowed under the typical Anglo- Saxon Culture we inherited from our forefathers. Imperial Anglo- Saxon Culture works only for those who can use up resources locally ( and then apply those to playing the system ), and then are free to move on to the next region to be victimized. It ' works ', that is, unless or until the tribes wake up and resist, as the Moslems do today, or until the most accessible resources of the globe are simply used up once and for all time. We show almost no sign of changing our course under the Fundamentalist Bush Cabinet. So, we can expect more and mounting wars, and escalating social problems- a national dynamic that, historically, typically never puts the brakes on of its own volition- and so collapse may be the only possible outcome. There has never yet been an Empire that saw its way to change course once its decline set in. EXCEPT to keep on keeping on doing the same old same old...
The goal of ultimate security, perfect peace, is the very thing we drive away from ourselves by clinging to the illusion that we can have it all at the expense of those who shall and do end up with nothing- the REAL WORLD JUST DOES NOT OPERATE THAT WAY. Not for long.
Native Peoples worldwide have known these things FOR MILLENNIA- that is the precise REASON why they were not interested in developing these artificial materialistic systems for themselves- they could have- they chose not to do so- then and today- their close contact with the Natural World kept their societies ever in present awareness and detailed remembrance of how the world really operates ( Natives call it A- Walk- In- The- Woods )- but when the time came for the institution of mono- crop agriculture to solidify that way of separation from the natural cycles and ecologies in the land, the lessons taught by the lands were cut down along with the clear- cut trees, whose sacrifice made way for yet more agriculture and irrigation and the human overpopulation IT CAUSED !
And so you have it, in a nutshell, functionally speaking, just how this system got started AS a narrow, intellectually driven system, and some insights on how it perpetuates itself, as if it all were like an independently living thing in its own right.
It just goes to show that we need to be very careful what we pray for, or ask for. These kinds of things DO have the limited capacity to take on a life all their own, as is suggested by Quantum Mechanics.
Now, there are those of us who believe that it is likely that the earth itself, as a planet, obtains a kind of conscious awareness as a result of the collective quantum field of all the combined awareness of the countless creatures who inhabit her ecosphere.
Some evidence for this may be seen in the phenomenon of the Crop Circles and their attendant ' balls of light '.
I have to reiterate that there is something here that truly is beyond mere line of reasoning of the human intellect- human intellect being driven by and largely limited to the double dualities of word comparisons and branching logic structures- both strongly affected by local cultural bias in the first place- specifically our developing technology. Again, not the most reliable view of reality obtainable ( though certainly not just junk, either ). For, at one time, humans knew no way of life OTHER THAN one in closeness to the experience of Nature with her literally limitless capacity for Novelty and Variety. Our sensory input was under such conditions continually bombarded with an ever changing kaleidoscope of variety and newness and wonder really, that the mind was constantly kept open, WIDE open, to the more subtle phenomenon of not just one's inner and outer world being fully integrated, but also such things as paranormal phenomenon that otherwise pass by undetected or un- appreciated by today's highly focused minds of specialized modern cultures. True, no two snowflakes are alike, but that is mass produced boredom compared to the truly endless variety observable in all of Nature.
In fact, there is another and unexpected level to which we may take these observations of Nature's unpredictability.
Is every electron identical to every other electron ? It had been almost taken for granted that that was the case, for over a hundred years now. One particle of type would be impossible to distinguish from any other in the Universe, almost by definition. NOT SO TODAY ! The last decade has seen the discovery of the phenomenon of ENTANGLEMENT- that two subatomic particles, photon pairs or electron pairs thus far, obtain a quantum link at the foundational ground of being, technically said to be Quantum Entangled, wherein THEIR PAST RELATIONSHIP TO ONE ANOTHER OBTAINS A PERMANENT AND IRREVOCABLE STATUS FUNDAMENTALLY AFFECTING THEIR FUTURE INTERACTIONS. In other words, the past history of a particle has, to some extent, a direct bearing on its current and future condition and therefore behavior. In fact, this Entangled State transcends all space and time limitations, including the direction of Time's arrow, and is opening up the possibility of instantaneous forms of communication and even of teleportation of mass through space at infinite velocity ( and I postulate even time travel ). So far as is known, this phenomenon extends only to the extent of their very next sequential interactions. However, there is growing evidence that this is hardly the beginning of the story of Particle Entanglement, let alone the end- for, this entanglement MAY BE TRANSFERABLE, expandable, manipulatable, to the extent that EVERY PARTICLE IN THIS UNIVERSE IS ULTIMATELY IN AN ENTANGLED STATE WITH EVERY OTHER PARTICLE ! This is a condition inherited from the the Origins of the Primal Fireball at the inception of the Universe at the Big Bang.
But there is EVEN MORE...
There is some reason to believe that THE VERY BASIS OF THIS UNIVERSE, ITS OWN FOUNDATIONAL PHYSICAL LAWS ARE IN THE PROCESS OF EVOLVING IN CONCERT WITH THE EVOLUTION OF HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS AND EXPERIENCE ! That is, HUMAN AWARENESS, PERCEPTION AND INTENTION IS ACTUALLY BRINGING ABOUT FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE TO THE PHYSICAL LAWS OF THE UNIVERSE AT THE QUANTUM LEVEL, THE GROUND OF BEING.
AND THAT IS THE ULTIMATE REALITY !
The Laws of the Universe are evolving in concert with our perception of it !
A kind of Quantum ' Natural Selection '.
Of course, this may all be VERY SUBTLE, barely discernible, but nonetheless VERY REAL.
So, I think we can at LEAST be agreeable that the human Imagination is well beyond the Intellect, if nothing else.
Look at this- we have also been assuming that Quantum phenomenon apply in an obvious way ONLY TO PHENOMENA OF ULTRAMICROSCOPIC SCALE. But again, NOT SO.
How does the engine in your car operate- whether or not it is a diesel, a gasoline, an electric or a hybrid engine system- does it work by Quantum Principles or by strictly Linear Newtonian Principles- MACROscopically now ! Be careful how you think about this one.......this is so obvious, yet I am the only person I know to have ever suggested this ! WHY DO MOST ALL OF OUR ENERGY SYSTEMS OPERATE ACCORDING TO QUANTIZED PULSES THAT ACCUMULATE A MOMENTUM OVER TIME ? ! That momentum usually being applied ' angularly ' to increase the ' spin ' of a macroscopic ' particle ' ( though not always ) ? I can even make the argument that a jet engine, a solid fuel rocket motor, a liquid fuel rocket motor and a steam turbine, ALL operate, at least to a degree, according to quantized pulses. Here is THAT argument- sort of in reverse- first, you have to view the jet stream as a wave function that has variations in its flow that are essentially a manifestation, on a macroscopic scale, of underlying QUANTUM wave functions. It is really a no- brainer for a physicist/ mathematician type ! It is THOSE VERY PRESSURE WAVE DENSITY VARIATIONS that have to be accounted for in the design of a safe, efficient, smoothly running jet engine. Even a rocket engine can be best described as supplying A SINGLE LONG- LIVED IMPULSE. And, the blades of a turbine are actually making little quantized ' cuts ' into the jet stream, parsing or sectioning it off into many, many TURBULENT eddies, which eddies never quite perfectly recombine in the exhaust- exiting the engine as macroscopic ' wave packets '.
EVERYTHING IS QUANTUM !
And, believe it or not, that one statement sums up practically the ENTIRE PHILOSOPHY of the New Age Movement-
EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED-
ALL- IS- ONE !
A decidedly Buddhist concept, if I may say so.
And thus our discussion cycles itself back around to MEDITATION-
NOT AN ACCIDENT OF LOGIC !
Are we New Agers merely seeing what we WANT TO SEE in the Universe ?- EUREKA ! Yes, now you are truly beginning to UNDERSTAND !
Kevin L. Puppos, 419- 868- 6140
422 Aberdeen Dr.
Holland, Ohio 43528- 9313 USA
Now, this is a scientific cooberation the reality-manifestation & quantum perception areas discussed. Just scroll down past the names at the beginning. From the Remote Psychic Lobby group.
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J. Acoust. Soc. Am., Vol. 81, No. 5, May 1987 Pages 1323 - 1326
A criterion for an energy vortex in a sound field
R. V. Waterhouse
David Taylor Naval Ship R&D Center, Bethesda, Maryland 20084 and Physics Department, American University, Washington, DC 20016
D. G. Crighton
Department of Applied Mathematics, Cambridge University, Cambridge CB3 9EW, England
J. E. Ffowcs-Williams
Department of Engineering, Cambridge University, Cambridge CB2 1PZ, England
(Received 1 December 1986; accepted for publication 26 January 1987)
Measurements with intensity meters have shown that energy vortices exist in certain sound fields. In these vortices, sound energy flows around closed paths, in the steady state. Vortices occur in some sound fields (e.g., that of a point source near a reflecting edge), but not in others (e.g., that of a plane rigid piston in a plane rigid baffle). It is shown that in a two-dimensional or axisymmetric sound field, a necessary and sufficient condition for a vortex to exist is the presence of an isolated maximum or minimum in the stream function. Two examples are given for a vortex in (a) a duct of square cross section, and (b) the field of two monopole sources, one of which just extinguishes the other. Some relations for the interaction between two monopole sources are also given.
* http://sound.media.mit.edu/~dpwe/AUDITORY/jasa/v81/n5/v81n5p1323.html
Theory of Fluctuating Nonholonomic Fields and
Applications:
Statistical Mechanics of Vortices and Defects and
New Physical Laws in Spaces with Curvature and Torsion
H. Kleinert
Institut für Theoretische Physik
Freie Universität Berlin
Arnimallee 14 D - 14195 Berlin
Abstract:
We demonstrate the power of using nonholonomic fields in various physical systems. Functional integrals over nonholonomic fields describe the statistical mechanics of defects in crystals and of vortices in superfluids and superconductors. Nonholonomic distortions of spacetime transform known physical laws in flat space into hitherto unknown laws in spaces with curvature and torsion, thereby leading to a new quantum equivalence principle for the quantum mechanics in such spaces. A gauge structure inherent in nonholonomic fields is exhibited and analyzed.
* http://www.physik.fu-berlin.de/~kleinert/kleiner_re227/camlec.html
The vortex; key to future science
Introduction
In 1867, Lord Kelvin described atoms as vortex rings; the movement of the vortex giving rise to the illusion of matter. This theory was advocated and elaborated by celebrated scientists like Helmholtz, Maxwell and Sir Thomson. In the 20th century however, the vortex principle was forgotten when scientists discovered sub-atomic particles. The atom no longer was considered as the smallest quantity of matter, since it could be divided into smaller elementary particles.
In their book "The Vortex. Key to future science", British scientists David Ash and Peter Hewitt revitalize the concept of vortex energy by stating that not an atom but
- an elementary particle is a vortex of energy -
This vortex of energy is a spiral movement of energy around a continuously changing axis, thus forming a sphere-shaped movement of energy. With this concept, Einstein's famous formula E=mc2, stating that matter is equivalent to energy, is easier to understand. Matter is equivalent to energy because it is vortex movement of energy. Einstein's formula contains the velocity of light c. According to Ash and Hewitt, the velocity of the vortex movement of energy in our physical universe is equal to, or less than, the velocity of light.
Transubstantiation and the super-physical realm
The velocity of the vortex movement of energy is not limited. When this velocity exceeds the speed of light, the corresponding particle enters a "super-physical" reality. It is no longer detectable with human senses or physical instruments; invisible and intangible in our physical world. Objects that become super-physical even transcend our notion of space and time. The super-physical realm has its own notion of space and time, different from ours. By slowing down the movement of the vortex energy, the object would re-appear in our world. Ash and Hewitt call this process of speeding up the vortex energy movement beyond the critical speed of light or slowing down below the critical speed: transubstantiation. Transubstantiation only changes the substance of an object, not its form. It does not change the atomic or molecular structure of a body. This process of transubstantiation is also mentioned in the book "Keys of Enoch" by James Hurtak, who calls it transvirulance.
Through transubstantiation, an object can dematerialize and materialize. Thus, paranormal phenomena can be explained. The Indian holy man Sri Satya Sai Baba for instance is well known for his ability to materialize objects at will: for instance jewelry, and even extremely rare specimens of fruit. Several scientific studies concluded that the observed phenomena are genuine. When asked by one investigator, Professor of Psychology Haraldsson, how he materializes objects, Sai Baba replied: "Mental creation. I think, imagine, and then it is there." To the question why the majority of people is not capable of doing this, he answered "We are all like matches. The difference is that I am on fire." Sai Baba's mental capacities allow him to induce transubstantiation.
Mind is the basic substance. Matter is the name given to mind when it takes form.
Matter, space and time as aspects of the vortex
Besides matter, also space and time can be seen as aspects of the vortex. Consider a vortex of energy forming matter. A vortex is not restricted to a certain area. As the vortex extends out, the energy would get thinner, would get infinitesimal small at large distances from the center, but would never disappear. This very thin matter is the apparent void of space. Or, one could say, matter is very dense space. Matter and space are two aspects of the same vortex of energy. We only perceive matter and space as different because of our senses. All our senses are limited. Our awareness is constrained within certain bands by our threshold of perception. (For instance: we can only see a limited part of the light spectrum. Our eyes can not detect light below ultraviolet or beyond infrared.) Matter is the dense central region of the vortex, which we can detect with our senses. Space consists of the thin peripheral region of the vortex, which is below our threshold of perception. Matter has no real boundary; its surface is subjective, corresponding to the lowest intensity of vortex energy that we can perceive. We experience everyday matter as substantial because it represents a high concentration of vortex energy. In bodies of matter, billions of vortexes are packed together in atoms and molecules. The surface of a solid, or liquid, or even a cloud of gas, marks a sudden increase in the number of vortices. This sudden high concentration of vortex energy is what our senses perceive as matter. Objects appear to have a boundary. But this is an illusion. It is simply that our senses are incapable of detecting the sparse energy spreading out in all directions. Space can be pictured as a bubble of vortex energy surrounding matter. If it would be possible to remove every particle of matter in the universe, then space would completely disappear also. On the other hand, space is shaped according to the matter it engulfs. This is predicted by Relativity Theory also and is verified by experiments. Light from distant stars does not travel in straight lines through space. It is deflected by other stars that are close to its path. Once when Einstein was asked to explain his Relativity Theory in a few sentences, his reply in a nutshell was: "Remove matter from the universe, and you also remove space and time." In view of the vortex theory, time can be seen as emanating from the movement of the vortex. In general, time is established by a consecutive sequence of events. Thus the movement of the vortex creates time.
A hierarchy of super-physical realms
An object of which the speed of the vortex movement is increased above the speed of light will disappear from this physical universe and enter a super-physical universe. This super-physical universe has its own space-time realm, distinct from the physical space-time. The physical and super-physical universes are interpenetrating each other. They are not separated by space and time but by a dimension that is the speed of the vortex movement. It is well possible that this super-physical realm has its own critical speed of vortex movement; for instance twice the speed of light. Going through this barrier would transubstantiate an object into a second higher realm of super-energy and so on. Each higher realm includes all the lower ones, because greater speeds contain all lesser speeds. In each realm, all forms of energy with speeds at or below the speed of its critical speed can exist. The super-physical is the living sphere of nature elementals like elves, gnomes and fairies. Higher realms are occupied by angelic beings, of which is often said that they inhabit a hierarchy of worlds. In view of the vortex, each of these worlds would be characterized by a certain critical speed of the vortex energy.
This concept of a hierarchy of super-physical worlds can be viewed in what is known in the healing world as the energy bodies that surround a physical body. Each energy body could be a body in one of the super-physical realms.
Through scientific experiments it is known that each living physical body is surrounded by an energy body that is the blueprint of the physical body. Before a plant starts to grow a leaf, it can be detected in the energy field surrounding the plant. Changes in the physical form can be detected in the energy field first. According to David Ash this energy field is a super-physical field.
Interaction between the physical realm and super-physical realms
Super-energy interacts with living matter through resonance. The DNA in the cells of living organisms acts as a receiver of information from the super-physical realm. DNA molecules have a double helix structure coiled repeatedly upon itself, thus forming a coil reminiscent of that in a radio set. Just like a radio coil can pick up radio waves which the rest of the tuning device of the radio transforms into sound, the DNA picks up super-physical information and relays this to the cell. This information governs the development of the cell. For instance it determines if the cell behaves like a liver cell or a skin cell. All the genetic information of a living being is contained within the DNA. Each cell has the same DNA. The super-physical information received by the DNA determines which section of the DNA is read, which group of genes is switched on or off.
The double helix structure of DNA is not the end-stage of the human evolution. We are evolving towards a 6-double helix structure. This twelve stranded DNA coil will enable humans to receive information from multiple dimensions. Little known medical tests have shown that people who have been doing a lot of inner work through meditation have developed three or four stranded DNA. And many of the children born nowadays already enter the world with three or four stranded DNA.
Healing
In alternative medicine there are many different therapies employing a wide variety of techniques. There is a key principle which most of them share: the recognition of an invisible energy in and around the body, which is essential to its integrity and well being. The energy body is said to act as a blueprint for the physical form, influencing its processes and functions. If the energy body is treated, the physical body will heal itself. This energy body can be seen as a super-physical body interpenetrating the physical body.
Healing is a therapeutic interaction between the super-physical body of the practitioner and that of the patient without the intervention of any instruments or remedies. This interaction is based on resonance. The practitioner enters a state of consciousness to which the super-physical body of the patient starts to resonate. It is possible to heal at a distance, even going back or forward in time. This also becomes understandable in view of the vortex energy. The healer is operating on the super-physical level and thus can transcend our physical space and time.
Transubstantiation and space-time travel
Through transubstantiation, bodies can move out of the physical space-time, travel through the super-physical realm (outside space and time) and reappear in a different physical space-time. It is thus possible to traverse in a short time huge distances, that would require speeds exceeding the speed of light when traveled through our physical universe. It is also possible to travel back in time.
Trough the concept of transubstantiation, UFO phenomena, like the sudden appearance or disappearance of flying objects, can be explained. And simultaneously, the ability to transverse huge distances of interstellar space becomes understandable. It is not farfetched to suppose that an advanced alien life form has invented a machine that can change the speed of the energy movement of vortexes, or is able to do it by mental power.
Interesting in this view are the experiments by physicist Tesla in the beginning of this century. He is believed to have build a secret military machine, based on very high frequency electric and magnetic fields, that could make an object disappear for a while. In the so-called Philadelphia experiment, the USS Eldridge was anchored in Philadelphia harbor in the summer of 1943. It had a full crew on board and was equipped with Tesla's secret machinery. When Tesla's device was turned on, the ship became invisible and disappeared from the radar screen. Several minutes later it reappeared, but several crewmembers where merged with the ship and could only be freed through amputation. Two crewmembers where gone, only to reappear 40 years later in a top secret military complex. Reportedly, one of them was send back through time to stop the experiment. Their biological clock was deranged such that their aging process was speeded up. During the experiment, the ship has been seen at a location hundreds of miles away.
Conclusion
"The Vortex. Key to future science" is an important book. It raises consciousness. It also raises questions that are still to be answered.
Why does the super-physical realm have a different space-time concept? Space and time are both aspects of the vortex. Somehow the change in speed of the vortex movement of energy is supposed to change the concept of space and time. Why and how are not yet understood.
If the energy body of a living physical body is super-physical, how can it be detected by physical instruments? Is this through some kind of resonance process as in a radio or in the DNA?
* http://www.ledomedesprit.com/Void/vortex.html
School of Wisdom® Series: Volume 4
Chapter 14: The Physics of PrimaSounds?
By R.C.L.
" It appears as if PrimaSounds produce standing waves - a wall of sound effect - that is not tied to the acoustics of the room itself. Instead, it appears to have more to do with the people in the room and their energy fields."
* http://www.primasounds.com/PrimaSounds/ch14.html
Arakara
Forgive me for not reading this whole thread (I'll get to it tomorrow, skimmed bits for now), but the topic of "you create you own reality and this includes negs" has come up before, quite a lot of times (we really should make a sticky to address it....hmm), and I think is well addressed by RB's article at:
http://www.astralpulse.com/articles/robert/articles_39.htm
He also takes the arguments from new-agey channeled info, including I believe Seth (which I saw you mention), and his refutations are very relevant to the things you are saying. Evidence such as 9 month old babies coming under massive psychic attack from negs, for instance, cannot be explained with this popular theory. My own experience and logic also disprove this for a number of reasons, some of which are and some of which are not addressed in the article.
Personally, I used to believe in the 100% YCYOR model, but after a number of years trying to piece together the evidence for it, I had to drop it completely. For instance, the reverse of neg attacks, it does not include direct intervention by God, which I know to be real. IMO it might be a part of the picture, I see no reason why it should not be - but it is most certainly not the be all and end all of reality.
Rob
ps CM - how are you getting along fighting your attacker off? Please do tell..
pps Jane Roberts died of cancer while Seth, who claimed unlimited access to higher knowledge, rattled on about deconstructing and reconstructing her belief system.....
Namaste,
this is my first post and i have to say i am glad i waited. i have view some of the archived posts dealing with energy development and "ki".....i am glad i waited. this topic is extraordinarily relevant to the whole notion of "energy", "ki/chi", astral-this-and-that. one of the problems that i can see with the dialog/discussion/debate is that, when dealing with ideas of how to define one's PERSONAL reality, we inevitably lose our awareness at times that we don't have a monopoly upon NOMINAL reality. The unfortunate results of this loss in awareness can swing from the petty(I'm right and you are wrong)to the tyrannical(I'm good and you are evil). I feel that a trememdous amount of open-mindedness and maybe even more so, a really strong sense of personal boundaries. This is so important because we can all find ourselves at times, clinging to our personal belief or worldview, and when someone challenges this, whether with purpose or no, we can FEEL like they are attacking us and mistake this as reality, when in fact, that other is either strongly expressing his or her worldview or strongly questioning your beliefs. Ok, sure right? Well, I was very happy with the last couple of posts, because they shared ideas! very exciting ideas; ideas exploring the nature of reality. i have some pretty radical ideas about reality myself, and like everyone else those ideas have been formed by my study, intuition and personal experience. in the context of the YCYOR worldview, i have this to offer- PARADOX. my personal experience has shown me time and time again, i have the ability to create and destroy matter at will. (that should grab your attention [:O] yeah, i have had some pretty crazy experiences...cults, illuminati, native american shamans WOOHOO!! no bs. so i have had very real experiences in which i have simply thought things and the universe instantaneously responds. i think this maybe the subtlety that people miss.....its not that you create your own reality, per se....but that if you can SEE it, your reality, dances with you!!! its like a constant breath, thoughts, body movement, feelings, like the world tree...if the world is a tree, it breathes out and you breathe in. just see the tree. in this sense, reality is a paradox. it is something and that something we call it is true and at the same time, it is not that thing which we call it but it is its polarity. good and evil, life and death, yin and yang, "i create my own reality" and "i am at the whim of fate". both of these things ARE TRUE. there is NO ARGUMENT! the INTELLECT Cannot pass through a paradox. mind is cirular and cannot understand oroboros. heehee!!! this is some fun shite! [8] love ya'll! lets talk about energetic 5th dimensional emotional mechanics!!! yeeehaaa!
I got a question for anyone that can answer. Most mediations and visualization tell you to close your eyes to visual what you want. In my experience I have been able to visualize with my eyes open and to project this image in front of me. I have done this more since my attacker interfers with my visualization when my eyes are closed. I was onced told that most people close their eyes so they have a screen to project an image on. Does anyone know whether your eyes have to be closed or if they can also be opened too.
shadow dancer, I know exactly what your talking about. I also have noticed how just thinking certain thoughts seems to cause a "response" in the universe, and have been able to "cause" or prevent other things from happening simply by thinking about it. I personally don't view myself as a "new ager" because I developed my perspectives before I even knew what that term was. Now whats this 5th dimension energy mechanics you were talking about.
criminal mind, I think either method of visualization is good. In some cass its even better to be able to visualize with your eyes open. Though you don't want that to get carried away (funny story, I'll tell it later).
ok this thread grew under my raidar.... i skipped the larger posts as its awefully late here and i cant be stuffed...
arakara you said that next time im on a plane to know its going to crash and see what happens (and yes i know you dont mean it) but if i did do that then what if it did crash... nobody else on that plane would have control over their own lives.. and if it didnt then i wouldnt have control over my life...
then you could say that it would crash because they are a part of MY reality... well that would make you a part of MY reality too so you dont have control over ur life... the whole concept is ridiculous.
and if we are all part of YOUR reality then why would we be arguing with you.. and why would things that you dont like exist?
this subject is just stupid.. im not gonna check it anymore, no point.
-Syke
Well syke, its kind of hard for someone who hasn't actually tried it out to understand it. If you were on a plane that crashed, from the basic premise of "all individuals attract to themselves what they are conscious of" then I guess that means those other individuals, for whatever reason were also somehow attracted to that type of situation. Doesn't mean they thought about it 24/7, or sat up and watched plane crashes all night, might have been something as simple as seeing a plane flying by and asking "hmm, what if that planed crashed?, sure hope that doesn't happen to me.." Of course this is just an example, because we all have different threshholds for what types of beliefs or suggestions we will accept. Of course if you wanted to analyze that example you would see that the person is in a frame of mind condusive to spontaneously imaging negative scenarios & then putting themselves in the picture. The mind also doesn't recognize the word "don't" when applied to a scenario. For example if you just came home and your friend yelled "DON'T THINK OF PINK ELEPHANT!" You would automatically picture it. So by here thinking visualizing the scenario (during the 1st part of her question) and then saying "sure hope it doesn't happen to me", guess what message her subconscious mind (which generates the images) got - "sure hope it happen to me". I could also point out that asking yourself a question mentally (in your head) is a good way of finding the answer to something, especially if the question insinuates a certain scenario like above. This is actually one of the first ways I began reality-manifestation, though I had been doing it for a couple years before I consciously noticed (note: never, ever ask yourself a question insinuating a negative scenario). Well my point is, you are NOT the other person or people, you DON'T know what other people are thinking, believing, or attracting to themselves, so you can't say "since other people are involved it couldn't have been YCYOR." There's alot more to it, but I can't be typing all day here.
>and if we are all part of YOUR reality then why would we be arguing with you.. and why would things that you dont like exist?
Well, maybe I was looking for people not familiar with the YCYOR concept and wanted to participate in an energetic discussion ([:O]hmm, I was...) Also I didn't say I have it all down pat. Like all things its a discipline, and controlling your thoughts & beliefs to create desired outcomes in everyday circumstance is not always the easiest thing - though it makes life much, much easier[|)]
>the whole concept is ridiculous.
Well, I don't know what I would say if someone had told me the YCYOR concept before I became aware of it. When I did, just before college, the first book I read on the subject took me 2 months to read. Not because I'm a slow reader (I'm quite fast, actually) but because it looked like the author had stolen my entire perspective and made a book out it. I was as mad as I was shocked and excited. I had read a couple excerpts from in a muscle magazine and was interested in eerily similar it was to my own perspective. So if I had never read that magazine, I don't know when I would have been formally introduced to the subject. Still, that was not the first time that I thought of an idea or concept, only to see it already mass produced. In high school, I was motivated by those Invention Submission commercials and was always trying to think of new inventions, designs, or ideas, though I then see them displayed somewhere else - like on a store shelf, magazine, or some other place. I have now actually become able to "block" my ideas or inventions from being already "manifested" into the mass market (finally!) - I can't tell you how many times it seemed like someone was picking my brain and stealing my inventions (if I ever find that person I will put them in a coma[}:)]). I'm not going to go deeper into that subject because I know some of you have no idea what I'm talking about.
Inguma, well you say it does not include God, well I disagree. Why don't you read: Awakened Imagination/the Search by Neville.
>after a number of years trying to piece together the evidence for it, I had to drop it completely
What do you mean piece together evidence for it? Where you out in the lab, calculating the astronomical cosmic ratios or something? My first test to see if it worked was: "hmmm, if what whatever I believe to be true will be manifested, then why don't I just blindly believe I some money!" and I did, I kept telling myself I had money (was broke at the time) and guess what, eurkah[:)] I got some the next day. I didn't have car or computer, and no money to buy them (at the time) so I said: "hmmm, if what whatever I believe to be true will be manifested, then why don't I just blindly believe I have a car and computer!" and guess what, eurkah[:P] within a month I had both (friends and family were pretty surprised, to say the least). I've done this same process, over and over with a variety of other things. I would not be in college right now if it not for this simple process. The hardest part is controlling your beliefs. It has to be a blind faith, not a hopefull assumption.
If you guys want me to respond back soon, post something before tomorrow evening, I'm leaving town for a business venture I manifested (literally)[;)]
for syke, i think something that might help to elucidate the concept of YCYOR...take the plane crash for example. let us say that a certain individual wishes to either prove or disprove the theory. so they do in fact meditate upon images of death from above [xx(] and other planes=death media. here is the kicker; reality is not CAUSE THUS EFFECT. reality, in a, as arakara posted, has more of a "quantum" quality. meaning that there is a precident of "non-local connectedness" that permeates all things. this is illustrated in the matter=energy votices model in put forth in one of arakara's previous posts. so just because an individual meditates upon the idea of death=planes, does not necessarily mean that the flow of reality and its holographic manifestation will be so tunnel-vision esque as to produce such limited and unimaginative manifestations as that person actually dying in a plane crash. that person may actually find him or herself experiencing some form of samadhi, or oneness or spiritual insight about death in general, or the esoteric meaning of man's desire to fly and how that relates to death, or maybe the death of a loved one through a plane crash? there are infinite permutations of possibility, not limited to a newtonian view of reality.
arakara, i have been looking into 5th dimensional mechanics. ie-being able to move, act, communicate within the 5th dimensional vibratory rate of matter.(at least relative to us in current 3d). from what i understand, the instantaneous response or creation of universal flow, is an attunement to the "4th" dimension, which is not really a separate dimension per se, but the astral realm maybe? thoughts manifest relatively instantaneously and matter/time is extremely malleable. to navigate within this dimension, accessing the vast potential of the human heart is, from my experience, the key. what most people on this forum dont seem to see is that no matter how many "techniques" you learn or how "powerful with ki" [:O] you become, without joy in your heart and a passion for the human experience, many many doors remain locked.
Aho!
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Inguma, well you say it does not include God, well I disagree. Why don't you read: Awakened Imagination/the Search by Neville.
Because I have a LOT of other books I want to read first! Got ooh about 4 I am actively reading at the moment!
Now, let me guess, its argument is that God is a part of you? Or that the act of prayer is what is important?
Well, perhaps God is a part of you, but your higher self can still act independantly. And also, I have once had myself removed from a very very sticky situation that could quite easily have left me with serious physical injury, even killed me, but it would appear I was saved. I know another person who had this happen to him as a young child, totally inexplicable, totally spur of the moment and not prayed for. So it goes. I cannot put this into the popular model, but if that book can refute me - please explain!
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What do you mean piece together evidence for it? Where you out in the lab, calculating the astronomical cosmic ratios or something?
I try and only let myself believe in things if I have personal experience with them. Lol no cosmic ratios or anything, but looking back in hindsight and trying to fit cause and effect. In some cases my thoughts (even obsessively strong ones) have NOT fitted how reality turns out (kinda). Yes, they did draw things to me, but did not dictate how the future panned out. Basically, I cant find any link in my own experience, therefore I have to drop the model.
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My first test to see if it worked was: "hmmm, if what whatever I believe to be true will be manifested, then why don't I just blindly believe I some money!" and I did,
Very well, and hey thats quite cool. However! I do believe that you are taking your it too far. I never said that your mind cannot be used to manifest things around you - your experience shows it can, as does magick (which is essentially similar to what you are doing, only using sharper and more powerful tools). But its a huge jump to then conclude that
everything around you is the creation of your own mind.
OK now, you have created things actively. Try this instead - pick random events after they have happened, and try and fit every single one of them to your own thoughts. Look at it in terms of probablities, not possibilities.
OK I'll give another example that, in my mind, disproves that negs are all mind creations. One night, totally out of the blue, I woke up at about 2-3 in the morning to see neg standing at the bottom of my bed. I thought it was my mum at first, but quickly realised that no, it wasn't. Heart starts racing a bit etc. After about 10 second it faded out, dematerialised and left (damnit! I should've hit the light switch and f****d it up!! lol oh well, maybe "next time"). I got up, turned on the lights, prayed, asked it to leave, prayed for it to be brought to the light should it be a disincarnate human spirit etc. After I still felt a presence, asked it to leave again, started doing (weak, I'm not very good) banishing rituals and etc etc. Blessed the room. Went and slept in another room.
Before that point, my Dad had been having a bad nights sleep. Waking up a lot, restless, etc. After I had seen it and annoyed it (got some telepathic signals back from it, not a happy bunny I can tell you, stuff like "F**k you God! F**k your God!" - angry evil tone), he had a
REALLY bad nights sleep. Nightmares - including - the only one he really remembered (at least would tell me about) - one in which I became possessed (in his dream). - Note this is not unusual, whenever I do stuff to disrupt this things connection to me, the effect has to travel first through my Dad (think lines of force, from me, through him, to neg).
For the next couple of weeks, I was preeeetty scared I can tell you, at night time. That is, of the dark, always looking out in the pitch black room, seeing if it was there etc. But, no signs of it, nothing.
- First, what about the effect on my Dad? He had NO idea what was going on to me. Lol he nearly got up at one point to go sleep in the room I had moved to, damn! That would've freaked me out big time. Anyway the point is, he had effects - due to a neg, and indirectly due to me, that were not of his making in the least. Besides, he thinks all this is a load of garbage (the willfully blind...). Perhaps you can say "wheels within wheels, the whole universe fitting together, so that one persons effect slots perfectly into another persons reality" but I think that, if thats the case, then no human mind could percieve it anyway, so all we have to go by in channeled info which IMO is bunk - negs in angels clothing. However.....:
- Second, the neg showed once out the blue with no real thought of it on my part, but then did not show up again when, if the YCYOR model is correct, it should have done - ie when I was thinking about it a LOT.
And, I would like to repeat about RB's article - 9 month old babies coming under a demonic assault. Similarly, when I was 5, I came under pretty major psychic attack, and what hit me - I can assure you - did NOT come from me, or from the depths of my own subconscious mind, or anything like that. I was pure and innocent, what was shot at me was terrifying and awful. Ach. Inexplicable in the 100% YCYOR reality
Hope you get this in time!
Rob
ps CM why, and please reply you have me really curious, are you still ignoring me? Did I do something to evoke your anger?? Confused boy here seeks answer.....
pps Shadowdancer - WOW - great post man! I really should get round to reading this whole thread.....hmm......
I'm sorry Inguma, i didn't mean to ignore you I just thought you where following the post. For how I'm doing. I'm still here breathing. Physically ok now. Was strucking in the throat with a zap of bad energy. Ended up with a sinus problems and chest cold. Not to long ago I had an absess tooth due to the energy sent to me on the left side of my face. I'm out of work once again due to magic.
Still looking for answers. I come back to see if some of the other people that was getting attacked is here. I was hoping to maybe give them some information to help them and see if they wanted to jion a group doing research to find a solution. Thank you very much for asking.
Aaah, reading shadow dancer's post is like a breash of fresh air. Actually, shadow dancer I am working on my own book about the subject, though I can't get into the details now. I have more to say, but have to go. TTYL[;)]
Inguma, tell me, what other books are you reading. Are they from the 10 free ebooks link I posted in this forum?
>Try this instead - pick random events after they have happened, and try and fit every single one of them to your own thoughts.
Thats how I became aware of the process! I've even seen how thoughts can interact with political events - this is one of the main areas I'm researching now.
>I was hoping to maybe give them some information to help them and see if they wanted to jion a group doing research to find a solution.
Trying to start a group to find the solution to psychic attack is like trying to start research team find the solution to dry throats. Just drink the d@mn water! Its really simple. Strengthen your aura, build it into a protective shield, utilize the YCYOR model, and attenuate yourself with a higher source. Voila! No more dry throat.
Inguma, I also have been awoken by a strange presence in my room. My experience was quite different from yours though. I was visualizing myself in the universe, imagining that all the space and matter in it, including my body, was permeating with energy. I then imagined that I was this energy, and then thought from the perspective that I was the "creative intelligence". Suddenly I was in the air down past the foot of my bed (w/ my body still in bed), and my with my body surrounded by this kind of red tint. I experienced the most utterly intense euphoric feeling I had ever experienced - thoughout my entire body - At the same time I heard the word "good" seeming to be coming from all the cells in my body. You know how when you think, you perceive as originating in your head, well it felt like every cell in my body "thinking" at the same time, saying [^]"good"[^]. At the same time I felt another presence in my room, parallel to me, but toward the floor. It seemed like a redish type glow or something. All this seemed to happen for only an instant because I was jolted right back into my body by the intensity of sensations I felt.
I have had several other experiences where I experienced these sensations of bliss - the most recent being this past August.
Arakira,
You must be the second coming of something.
Obviously, you could be a psy. vamp
probably are.
metal ice, what you have said, i feel, is an example of an attack on someones character. it would make just as much sense if someone called you some other ridiculous name or label. it has NO PLACE HERE. Please post with the respect that you would have others accord to you. Live by the sword, die by it. its a metaphor.....[:P]
Wow Metal Ice, your on a roll. Of all the amazing incitefull posts you've added to this thread, the last one is by far the most brilliant. I mean, the second coming? Simply, WoW. Your depth boggles the mind.
>metal ice, what you have said, i feel, is an example of an attack on someones character.
I don't think character is the only thing this guy attacks. I have some important advice for other members of this forum. DO NOT accept the limiting, negative, disempowering beliefs, suggestions, insinuations, hints, or affirmations that some of the other members on this board (like dark knight & metal ice) spout. If you do, then you can kiss your butt goodbye because listening and accepting the comments & suggestions they give will make you PRONE to psychic attacks.
Let me put it this way, if I were an psychic vampire that enjoyed finding victims to attack, I would go to a forum just like this.. and say all the things that dark knight & his partner in crime, metal ice is saying. I'm not saying that what he's doing, its just, if I wanted to break down all the mental walls I could before waging a psychic attack, I would say exactly what dark knight/metal ice is saying. Get yourself believing what he does, and its practically impossible NOT have some bad psychic attacks happen.
I was browsing through this thread and I came across some incredibly incitefull posts by Metal Ice. Here are some of the honorable mentions, with the 2nd and 1st place winners at the end:
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Those that have experienced Psychic attacks are used to & pretty sick
& tired of the old "if you believe it to happen, it will" game.
I never believed what happened to me would happen, & it did. Blaming the victim is easy, understanding is not.
Psychic Attack is pretty horrible. Yes, you can overcome it. I recently have, but unless you've been there, you really don't know.
As for blaming 911 for happening to make us more compassionate?
Are you serious? I think some of this new age stuff has reached levels of insanity. Some of the ridiculous stuff new age people said to me, & they were so wrong.
Constant attacks make you weak for more attacks. Somehow, you gain a little ground & slowly , very slowly, but surely get free of it. Each situation takes different amounts of time to overcome. And it is one of the hardest things to go through. It's a nasty mind trip that some people
don't know how to fight. Does'nt make them losers, or wishing it to happen. Living with & overcoming Psychic attack is one of the toughest things to do. You have to be very brave person to live through it.
There was acult once that tried to tell people that they created everything that happened to them. Now, new age people are spouting such ridiculousness. It's a cult & I refuse to listen to any of it.
That cult I know of caused many of it's members to become mentally ill
& now we're trying to explain 911 that way.
Here's my take: A bunch of foreingers got angry with us & wanted to hurt us. End of story.
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Arakara,
hopefully some of those things help someone, but did not work (most of them) on my vampire problem. I just had to move farther away from him
to make things better. Getting your mind on your own life again helps tremendously. But, first you have to gain ground slowly but surely. That's the hard part
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The second place award goes the post below for its incredible candor and linguistic expressiveness. Here it is:
*****
You belong to a cult then. Very Scary. And Your know it all attitude is a bit much. You choose to believe what you want.
No one choses a path in life. Sometimes things happen. As far as you calling me a degenerate, you don't know me & seem very angry & smug
in your judgement of people.
Pull up all the quotes you want. That's how you make yourself feel superior to anyone else. You are in a cult.
*****
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And the winner post on this thread for expressing the greatest amount of depth, incite, knowledge, and pure intelligence goes to Metal Ice! View this amazing winning post below:
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Arakira,
You must be the second coming of something.
Obviously, you could be a psy. vamp
probably are.
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I think that last one speaks for itself. wow.
Seriously, I am getting the feeling that certain members are using this forum to attract victims for various types of psychic attacks. This is a very serious issue. What do you think of this?
LOL!!!!! Well, you make my job easier [:D] ehehe
Your experience, wow yeah, that made me smile...
Books I am reading at the moment - no, no free e-books (didn't read your post there, so probably not reading any of them anyway!). OK listed in order of amount of time I am spending with them:
"The Tao of Physics" - Fritjof Capra
"Meditation" - Kamalashila
"The Mystical Qabalah" - Dion Fortune (finally got it back of my mate after about a year with it in absence ggrr)
"Why Therapy Doesn't Work - and what we should do about it" - David Smail
also some randoms in various states of read-ness like "Excalibur Briefing" by Tom Bearden, "The Teachings of Don Carlos" by Victor Sanches, err probably some others [:P]
Oh yeah and I am SLOWLY doing The Kybalion. I little mouse bites.
Quite a mix then!
"Voila! No more dry throat" - aaahhh, I dont think its quite that easy my man.......full exorcisms sound like pretty hefty affairs.
You nees to remember the depth - psychologically and energetically - of the connections these things create to your. They leave control mechanisms deeeep in your subconscious mind. They are STRONG, and won't give out without a fight.....
CM - damn, I was hoping to hear you had made some good progress [:(]. Did you get very far with the egyptian stuff?? More importantly - did you manage to enlist any heavy duty help - Nita, Romero, etc?? Phew, you are gonna be one tough cookie when this is through.......anyway, I'll pray for you, for what its worth.....
laters guys
Rob
Full exorcisms? Well if thats what you think needs to happen, then I guess that what needs to happen. Interesting books, though I think they have nothing to do with what I discussed. As for your intro quote: "LOL!!!!! Well, you make my job easier". I have no idea what your talking about.
Hello, Arakara. My instructor knows how to drain people of qi energy. If you drain people enough of this energy, they will die. You can also block their energy and kill them that way. What can be used to help people can also be used to hurt them. The energy is very real. I've been healed a few times through the manipulation of qi.
That is one way of doing it, enderwiggin. Though it would be kind of strainfull to individually "drain out" all the attackers on this forum. I think it would be best if there was a way the "victims" on this site could protect themselves from attacks while at the same time effectively "remove" their attacker. Alas there is a way!
Below is instructions for a simple instrument you can construct that can seriously injure or kill psychic attackers; though it can not be harm an innocent person or psychic in anyway. Why not try it out. It just might work for you.
[:D][:D][:D]
By Don Croft <terminator3@turbonet.com>
http://educate-yourself.org/dc/adc52thepowerwand26jan03.shtml
January 26, 22003
Having satisfied ourselves that absolutely no harm can be done with this device, we're ready to give out the instructions for it. After that I'll discuss what led to making ours and other considerations. Special thanks in the beginning is due Ben Morton, Suze Hooten and Bruce Stenulson for helping us make the crucial connection. I've described our experiences with Ben's and Suze's device, which inspired our PowerWand, in the Terrorizing The Terrorists article, written just previous to this one.
A few days after writing that account I made our prototype PowerWand and Carol and I began experimenting with it.
I'm writing a detailed description of how mine was made. If any of this seems over your head, you probably should buy one from one of the vendors on www.cloud-busters.com. Carol and I will check their work and write our recommendations after they've produced a suitable model that meets our minimum standards.
Here are the ingredients:
(It's built in a 3" diameter copper pipe, 9" long. Basically it's just a Succor Punch embedded in slightly 'Hootenized' orgonite [resin/metal shavings mix with misc.added crystals-Ken] .)
1. The Copper Pipe
2. An Endcap (optional)
3. A Suitable Crystal- it needs to be at least seven inches long, close to 1 ½" thick in the middle and with a single distinct point on one end. A Vogel (expensive!) will do fine, of course, but mine is funky and cost only $45.
4. Mobius Coil
I used an entire roll of the blue magnet coil wire from RadioShack (sold singly in a plastic and cardboard packet) to make the mobius coil on the crystal. The instructions for wrapping this coil are on www.cloud-busters.com . Since the 'cable' for the coil was very long in relation to the thickness of the crystal, I made a series of six 'knots' or underhand mobius turns. This saved me from having to make a huge, unwieldy 'knot.' Each knot was made up of six turns of the cable around the crystal. I stripped an inch of wire on the two ends and wrapped them around the threads on the ends of two, 2" long drywall screws, so soldering was not necessary. I put some little shrink tubes around the lengths of the screws so that the current would not short into the orgonite around them. I also liberally coated (with GOOP) all the bare wire that was still exposed and GOOP-glued the screws along the crystal so that just the heads would be exposed after it was all done. Until the glue dried, the screws were taped into position. I applied the two alligator clips from the frequency box to the two screws to power the coil when it was finished. Others use a different contact method.
5. Other Crystals
A little amethyst (mine was an inch long, broken from a cluster), a bit of pyrite (I used about a quarter teaspoon of broken bits), hematite (I used four 12mm beads), and garnets (I used four or five small rough bits, about 6mm). Without at least these Hootenizers, the energy from your Power Wand won't be grounded or focused. It will work about half as well as the one I made and the energy field will be spinning wildly around the room instead of taking proper form. If you want, you can beef it up a lot more with more minerals, intelligently combined. RevTed at Myth&Links (a link is on www.cloud-busters.com) has them all in stock, plus a lot of the more exotic items and some very nice crystals for your other orgonite devices, if you can't find them locally. We were careful to make ours with materials you can find in any bead store and rock shop.
6. Succor Punch Frequency Generator
If you don't want to use the hard wired boxes supplied by the Succor Punch makers, you can download the software for a frequency generator onto your desktop and hook the coil to you speaker plug-ins on your computer. You can download the NCH Frequency from Ken Adachi's web site: http://educate-yourself.org/nch/ We use 15Hz for this because it drives all parasites and predators to distraction, but it feels good to balanced, healthy people and boosts our awareness. The healthy orgone fields get quite juiced by it, too. Our theory is that this is because it will be the earth's resonant frequency after 2012, when tyranny and parasitism will simply be unviable on this planet.
7. A Copper Coil
I used 99" of 18gauge bare copper wire [or enammeled copper wire used for coils and trnasformers], wrapped loosely counterclockwise along the length of the crystal. The counterclockwise wrap gets the projected orgone field spinning in a direction suitable for dissembling predatory/parasitic thoughtforms. 15Hz speeds that process.
8. Mostly CopperMetal for Orgonite
Carol told me that at least half the metal should be copper, perhaps because of the nature of the work that's to be done with this device. We used aluminum for the rest.
9. Cheap Fiberglass Resin
We double the catalyst amount because it's cold in our garage.
Here's how I made mine:
Since I tend to be a little rough with my stuff, I recessed the point of the crystal into the pipe. I pushed it through some cuts in the bottom of a 3oz Dixie cup, which I also use to make the Tower Busters that can be shot from my spudgun.
I put GOOP Glue around the bottom of the cup to ensure that resin wouldn't leak in and fill the cavity, then I glued the rim of the paper cup onto a flat plastic surface after the first bunch of glue hardened enough to hold up the crystal.
I had gauged the business end of the two terminals (screw heads) to be an inch below the edge of the pipe and when I put the frequency box in there the copper end cap (lubricated with sprayed silicone) fit snugly and held it in place on top of the screw heads. The silicone ensures that you'll get it off again.
After the glue dried around the edge of the paper cup, I set the copper pipe down around the whole thing and added some metal-enough to stand the amethyst up so it pointed in the same direction as the SP crystal.
I poured in enough catalyzed resin to saturate the metal. At this point, it's better to pour just a little catalized resin; enough to go just over the bottom of the Dixie cup, in case there are leaks. If you add too much, the pressure will force a lot more resin through the leak and out from the the edge of the pipe.
When this hardened, I added the pyrite, more metal, the hematite, more metal, then near the 'top' I added the garnets and filled the whole thing with resin up to the screw heads.
I ended up grinding the business end, of course, and chiseling out the leaked resin there, and it was finished.
I decided to sell the components for the frequency boxes wholesale to anyone who wants to order the minimum of ten. I'm doing this for two reasons: Since they're machined and suitable for fitting in the space more people will be building the Power Wands for sale (it's slightly bigger than a 9v battery). Also, it cost us dearly to get the circuit/switch/LED assemblies and the machined boxes made in the first place and we want to recover our investment. We use the circuits for our Terminator zappers and I had the small boxes made in some quantity for the Succor Punches and other applications. The Terminator box and the SP box were machined to accept the same circuit/switch/LED assembly.
I bought all of Ben Morton's and Suze Hooten's offerings in recent months. These are partly based on Mark Hooten's unique skills of using specific minerals and crystals to enhance and specify the effects of orgonite and their own inspired applications of coils, crystal arrangements and shapes. I've often referred to the superior function of Suze's dowsing pendulum and to the combination of the Ben & Jerry Treat and Suze's small Super Sevens into the Ben&Suze device, which fits nicely in the hand and travels well in the pocket for vitalizing the ambience wherever one goes with it. In a pinch, it can also disorient and rather terrify a psychic predator, so it's no softy.
They sent us another device, which is a double scale Ben&Suze with a Succor Punch crystal coil and circuit embedded in the middle. There are other proprietary items they didn't describe to me but we discovered early on that it could be used to do things that the Succor Punch alone was incapable of. The Terrorizing The Terrorists article was written about what Carol and I did with this device, as I mentioned above.
Right after that article was written, we received a device from Mark Hooten which has no electronics and relatively little orgonite, but it out-performs our PowerWand and works on a slightly different principle. Since he expressed that he won't be making these for sale, I won't go into that in depth, but it was quite astonishing to us that so much could be done without a mobius coil. I think Mark has made something that humanity won't be ready for (generally) for another ten years. It's also incapable of doing harm, by the way. It certainly does send back predatory energy tenfold to the source, though, as does the Power Wand. I think we've sort of stumbled onto the nuts and bolts of just how tyranny will no longer be practicable after a few more years.
(Back to the Super Ben&Suze-if I may be so bold as to suggest a name)
This requires very concentrated effort and apparently even focused rage to disable a predator in the act of committing a crime. It also seems to require some visualization. I doubt that this was their intended purpose in creating it. Carol was unwilling to even pick it up until we'd had it for a month. The little Ben&Suze was adorable from the first. I'm the one who made the connection between the larger device and effective self defense. Carol's reluctant to think in those terms, though she's happy to assist me with her supernormal sight.
I sent out a request for volunteers who were under attack by NSA and other secret police psychic predators to give Carol and I permission to visit them and disable their attackers. About twenty people responded from around the world, only two of whom were insincere (Carol saw them as agents). One was since booted off the forum, but the other is still there, though not making trouble for now.
We mainly wanted to get our own 'before and after' assessments and to see whether our images corresponded with real results based on subsequent observations by the askers. We found out in the process that all human predators are very vulnerable to this device, while the human/reptilian hybrids and ETs are harder targets. We couldn't touch the Draconian we found pulling the strings in one NSA psyops assault, but we did disengage that one with my Succor Punch in the customary way. The flunkies, in this case an army field grade psychic officer and several NSA psychics, were fodder for this weapon and you can bet they won't be doing this to anyone else in the near future. Our hope has been for all psychic and even physical fake-gov't predators to be too scared, due to circulating reports, to go after anyone. When we encounter a team, we always go after the strongest, meanest one and have the others watch. I pretty well described the processes in the previous episode, so there's no need to cover that ground again.
Bruce Stenulsen was the first to combine a coiled crystal and orgonite for effect. That's the DORAS unit you may have heard about. Suze Hooten wanted me to be sure to give Bruce credit for acting on the original concept. Thanks, Bruce!
Since Carol and I gave away our inventions so that we couldn't be tagged with profiteering, my conscience is clear in promoting the Power Wand, a device which is derived from experimenting with Ben and Suze's creation. I need to stress that Hootenizing orgonite, as done over and above our offerings, points the way to a time when there will be no need for electrical circuitry any more in an orgone-based technology for humanity. I feel sure that in the present evolution of technology, orgone will be to electricity what electricity was to steam. I hope we can keep using the term, 'orgone' on behalf of Dr. Reich, who literally sacrificed his life in 1957 at the hands of fake-government assassins to make it possible for us to even have this discussion. He knew for almost twenty years that it was going to happen, which makes his offering that much more precious.
Ben pointed out that much of what they added to this device is proprietarial and secret, so I was eager to see if this private domain technology related to the great results we were getting with their device. At this point I can confidently say that our significantly easier and more effective results in the vein of stopping predators were from the combination of the Succor Punch and orgonite in a simple configuration.
I'll be looking forward to seeing how other researchers analyze the effects and abilities of the Super Ben&Suze in perhaps other ways that we're not yet aware of. I've sent ours to an extremely gifted and talented energy worker/healer for his assessment and I'll share his comments as soon as I get them.
I put a new battery in the freq box and turned it on before mailing it off just in case some Gestapo bastard is stupid/arrogant enough to try to sabotage the package.
I'll also take it to other reputable psychics whom we've worked with in our travels for their assessments. I want to make sure that Ben and Suze get full credit for their work and this is best done by getting the unbiased evaluations of more than just Carol and her psychic-hack husband.
I carried the PowerWand from the basement to our bedroom/workshop, when it was finished, and it felt like an army was marching in front of me ;-) . That was pretty special.
Carol said that before it was even turned on, a big, spherical cobalt blue orgone field was writhing, centered four feet beyond the end, sort of like a Medusa's head. This is the thing that visits the target when we turn on the power, but it's huge then and has no range limit. Also, no psychic shields or ritual magic protection works against it. I thought this article would be a long one, but the effect and technique is so simple that there's not a lot to elaborate on.
The first thing we did was test it on me, full blast. I felt a pleasant rush all over, like when you stand under a tropical waterfall or dive into a pool. Carol saw the cobalt energy flowing over me, but none of it went inside. I guess nothing in me needed to be recycled.
I learned to stop visualizing predators coming apart because I want to steer clear of any notion that I'm a murderer. Instead, I just direct the energy at them with the understanding that it will do whatever is lawfully appropriate to their situation. Secret Buddy says it's always appropiate to kill ritual murderers, but he knows stuff I don't know.
It's sufficient to say now that all of the vengeful military psychics, Montauk Wonks, Men in Black, dark masters, Satanists, etc., who took exception to our efforts by trying to disable us in the past few days got it all back in appropriate measure without us having to transgress the Law.
Today, we even disengaged the first hacker in three weeks who's had the temerity to interfere with my computer. He was just a nerdy NSA geek, so the Power Wand didn't damage him. It did disable all his computer gear, though, which put him in a paranoid state (he's probably a pothead). Carol had him 'see' blood dripping down his monitor screen just for fun (we watch a lot of movies while we make zappers). I think he was set up by his bosses to do that because he's not psychic enough to see what we've been up to. She said I'm just another name on his list of would-be victims and only after his stuff stopped working right did he suspect that he'd stepped on the wrong toes and that made him scared.
Anybody else want us to see if we can stop their computer interference? If so, email me at terminator3@turbonet.com . In the past few days, I've heard from a half dozen major players in our network who say their websites are down, all their email disappeared, etc., so maybe the secret police are doing a little rearguard action. Those cretins only advertise themselves to us this way. Don't you feel embarrassed that you were ever afraid of these incompetent jerks? I do.
If you're an agent reading this, I bet you already know we'll find you out in the process if you cry 'Wolf!' ;-) Don't worry- we won't hurt you, Agent. Anyone who emails me for that will get prompt attention and if you send another note within a day or two, I'll be sure to tell you what we've seen and possibly done for you. Feedback from you will be deeply appreciated-we don't ever run from science..
We'll be on the road (pursuing the enemy, not fleeing from them ;-)) after Feb 2, so please don't ask after that, okay? This is for our education, mainly. The rat bastards won't get close to us any more so we need help finding predators to disable. Pretty soon anyone can do this job.
Somebody else made a Power Wand prototype the day before I did (I'm not sure he wants to announce himself, otherwise I'd mention his name). He used it radionically to direct energy at an up and coming guru wannabee whom he found particularly annoying. In this case it was done radionically with the Power Wand pointed at a witness well with the guy's name in it.
He asked Carol to look at the results and Carol saw that the would-be guru simply got a huge rush of real inspiration from that exercise, even though the fellow with the Power Wand wanted him to suffer. Mr Wannabee is simply not a predator. We asked our friend to monitor the target's website from now on and see if he has replaced his apparent craving for a following with a strong, demonstrated desire to empower others. Sure, all the leadership addicts say they're empowering people, but if you're reading this you've probably figured out that it's only the actions that count, not the claims or even the intentions, from us all.
Here's my theory on how the PowerWand works:
The world is ruled through a predatory/parasitic thoughtform. Whoever identifies with these things is susceptible to being dissolved by the Power Wand's directed, focused energy. The degree of dissolution is in direct proportion to that person's demonstrated commitment to predatory action. They higher up the dungheap that a person is, the more mayhem and murder he/she must have committed, therefore the more vulnerable to this device. Just like the in Hitler's SS, advancement in the New World Order is measured by the height of the pile of corpses in one's personal resume. The Love and Light gurus are window dressing, only. They don't participate in the grisly stuff, but their programmers do.
Bodily parasites are predators, of course, but on a smaller scale, biologically. The parasitic aspects of the world regime are seen in its global exploitation of human energy and natural resources. I think the religious and educational institutions fit well in the parasite category.
The predatory aspects are seen in agencies like the NSA, the Federal Reserve Corporation, the International Monetary fund, Communism, National Socialism (like the fake US and European governments), military dictatorships, etc.
These are all thoughtform-based and exquisitely worthy of dissolution right now. Because the thoughtforms are immense it's going to take some time to dissolve them with even the most powerful radionics configurations, but that may take as little as six months if the right number of us apply what we've all learned to the task.
All predators are heavily vested in the thoughtforms, to the extent that they fully identify with them. This may explain why human predators are so easy to neutralize this way.
The penchant to identify with thoughtforms is part of human nature and not intrinsically in error. The brainwashing of humanity has been so effective that most people, after being institutionalized by public education, grope blindly for viable thoughtforms to identify with. The subversion of formerly viable ones is so complete that when one falls in the trap of identifying with them he/she is simply allowing external parasites to draw on their innate, essentially sovereign power. This is exactly what happens when one accepts a Social Security Number, adds his name to a church roster, joins a political organization, etc.
All of us are compromised this way to some extent, so I think it's pointless to rant about it. It rather seems more appropriate to destroy the thoughtforms and effectively protect ourselves from the agents who seek to punish and/or prevent us from carrying that out that process.
I think most of us in this action-oriented network have experienced the wrath of the secret government by now, firsthand, just for busting some of their deathforce transmitters and an underground base and maybe just for having a chembuster.
The PowerWand may be the easy way for anyone to take back personal power in a profound, effective way. You'll know when you've succeeded because you'll then stop experiencing gumshoe surveillance and computer hacking. Your life will get sweeter in other ways, too, and you'll know that this world order isn't so mighty, after all.
Several times, without Carol being present, I sensed a psychic assault and twice got the clear intention of some Men in Black who dearly wanted to shoot me in the head. I finally saw some of these gangsters outside Baltimore a couple of months ago. They're pretty brazen, unlike the formerly omnipresent NSA gumshoes. I don't think they're quite brazen enough to wear those suits in Idaho, though ;-)
In each case, I simply stopped what I was doing, turned on the PowerWand and imagined the power going to the source of the intimidations. Carol looked at each one afterward and said that the aggressors were completely neutralized in a fully appropriate way and will never do that again, at least to us. I didn't entertain the thought of killing them in that process, though one assault came apparently via direct orders from two of the remaining dark masters in the Gobi.
Carol and I were both astonished to find that the NSA and similar government agencies around the world operate so extensively through ritual dark magic, rather than through simple psychism and electronics. Part of me was happy to see that the Satanists connected with the fake South African government who were trying to stop Georg were a mixed group of whites and blacks, holding hands in a circle. That was when we saw that the PowerWand works well on groups of predators. In that case, Carol saw a sort of lightning bolt strike in their midst and spread out to encompass each of them. I won't get too graphic with that.
They were also trying to hurt Free State Farmer Eddie. That was after Carol and I went after the two Montauk types who were doing bad things that had made Georg very sick. I think Georg Ritschl gets the worst kinds of opposition, probably because the stakes are much higher in Africa, at least for creating famine and genocide. He'll probably defeat all of that this year. From his influence and example there are an awful lot of CBs throughout Africa, we're finding, not just in the southern countries.
I was told by a reputable high psychic who has checked our work that one NSA officer who attacked us was disabled by a 'scrorum' which is nothing but the energy reflected back to the source.In this case it was a non-fatal heart attack.
Carol said that after a week there still has been no new NSA Special Agent In Charge assigned to interfere with us locally. She says they can't find anyone who will take the job, even though they're offering some hefty benefits. No such thing as bad publicity, I always say.
She says the felon/rapist who had that job before quit the Agency after we gave him a taste of his own medicine. Now I won't have a chance to put the little 'Shhh! I'm a SPY!" sticker on the back of his work car. The dork parked it at City Hall after hours ;-) and drove away in his new Lincoln Town Car. I don't know where he parked that one. Maybe he cloaked it or something.
By the way, even the National Park Service employs gangsters and felons. I'm told by a former Park Service ranger that these guys are in charge of logistics for the satanic murder rituals that take place in many national parks. There are probably Satanists on your town council and in your police force. It goes without saying that most of the judges are practicing baby killers. Considering the high level of corruption in our courts, every single judge is culpable of being an accessory after the fact, at least. It's impossible to conceive that they all aren't intimately aware of these things. We're essentially living under anarchy right now. Can you see it? We simply need real, representative government now. The alternative is probably genocide at this point.
Mark's device, which I named 'Shiva', works on a slightly different principle and it alone can get inside a Draconian and dark master without interference. It, as well as the Power Wand, dissembles predatory targets, but it seems to draw in ambient orgone to do that. When you engage the device it looks like you're standing in the upper opening of a tornado and watching the beautiful energy around you swirl off in the direction of the target. It feels really nice in the process and even I saw it happening. Good luck talking Mark into making one for you ;-) I think you'd have to give him a few thousand dollars, to be fair, considering the expense of the materials, his unique skill and knowledge and the large amount of time it apparently takes to make one.We very deeply appreciate his willingness to sell us ours at such a low price. If I'd known what it is, I would have sent him a lot more, but maybe I can pay him with publicity ;-)
I bet a dozen Shivas would make it possible for us to have real governments again in a few short months. A hundred of our power wands in the right hands would do it, I think. I don't know how to factor in all the other energy work being done in the world, though I'm sure we're all working synergistically. The inventors who exhibit strong proprietary and self-seeking motivations are just shooting themselves in the foot. Elitism is SO inappropriate in the emerging age.
We cloudbuster types (and only a few of us at that) may be the only ones right now who are overtly claiming the desire to disable the criminal world regime and bring them all to justice under proper governments as soon as possible. Most of the rest of the world's energy healers are still stuck in the Love and Light kindergarten protocols, in my humble opinion, so won't get much in the way of real results on a planetary scale.
If you are reading this and believe that showering predators who are in the act of committing genocide (that perfectly describes the NSA and the rest of the secret government) with love and compassion will stop them, I can tell you right now that a Power Wand will be no more useful to you than a doorstop.
The good news is that very few people have the chutzpah to deny that this is happening. The less I hear about spaceships and Jesus rescuing us all, the happier I'll become. The only time I get claustrophobic feelings is when I contemplate being stuck on a spaceship with a bunch of people wearing stupid, vacuous grins. Yikes! Shoot me instead!
In that vein, I'm ending this article with a joke I got yesterday from a woman in Los Angeles, an adept of high magic, whom I dearly wish would come forward and claim credit for sending it to me. As an aside: it helped me understand why Carol and I could never find any vegetarian meals in Texas restaurants:
More truth than fiction.
Question: You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner and is running at you while screaming obscenities and his
intent to cause you and yours harm. In your hand is a Colt .45 Government Model and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family.
What would you do?
Liberal Answer: Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that is inspiring him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could a violent action on my part traumatize them? Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion.
Conservative Answer: BANG! BANG!...............BANG!
Texan's Answer: BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click...
(sounds of magazine being ejected and fresh one installed)
Wife: "Sweetheart, he looks like he's still moving, what do you kids think?"
Son: "Mom's right Dad, I saw it too..."
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
Daughter: "Nice grouping Daddy!
(sound of second magazine being ejected, and another being inserted)
Don Croft
PS. If you want a little incite into how they used this device on attackers see the article in the link below:
http://educate-yourself.org/dc/adc51terrorizingterrorists21jan03.shtml
That's along article to read right now thanks for the info, will read later. By the way, yoga's use a wooden dial rod, arms length, copper ends with a crystal inside the caps. Anyway what I wanted you write was the title of this spread. It's all in your mind. Your right it is in my mind and your not there come join me and see how you like it. It you can make it here you wouldn't deny me the truth of it. Also each chakra has a consciousness and if something is attached to my chakra or that layer of my aura they also would experience MY consciousness. When you learn to do this come and experience my problem with me. I'm more then willing to share my part of my consciousness with you that's being attacked!!!!!
If I join you, can I get inside your attacker? There are things he doesn't want you to know.
We can't handle this alone, that's why we reach out to each other. Evil has often referred to people's desire to reach out, help one another...care about people...as weakness. It's one true way dividing and conquering people.
Isolate and exterminate.
I don't think so. I'm not weak if I have to ask for help, and the power generated by the joining of forces is stronger than anything any one person can create.
"Below is instructions for a simple instrument you can construct that can seriously injure or kill psychic attackers; though it can not be harm an innocent person or psychic in anyway"
If I may be so bold....orgonite is generally life-positive, and can be used to amplify intent/magick. Thats pretty much it.....
BTW - a friend of mine was getting some nasty nightmares from an attacking neg, I piled a fairly large whack of orgonite things (tb's, hhg's, etc) under her bed and the nightmares ceased.
"Full exorcisms? Well if thats what you think needs to happen, then I guess that what needs to happen"
OK, so what about the fact that some entities are easy to exorcise, and some almost impossible? What about the raging battles that go on in some cases for weeks, yet at other times an adept can raise his hand and release a person from full possession with one word? Is that all in the mind of the attacked, or the exorciser? Dont you think that these exorcists might have noticed that by now - many of them being some of the highest adepts on the planet?? You make it sound like its all your choice, yet that is not the case. A more powerful entity will be more difficult to dislodge, period. And removing deep psychic impressions takes more than ignoring them and wishful thinking.
Basically, I cannot mesh your theories to the evidence. You sound like an intelligent guy, maybe you just need more evidence. Hopefully you read RB's article/link I posted....
Rob
Hi Inguma
I left the the egyptian magic alone for awhile. although I have come to learn more about their Gods. I'm still looking for ways to shield but shielding doesn't really help me. I have gained much knowledge in alternative healing and I'm working on learning about the aura. I have a psychic self-defense book that have expercises I haven't tried yet but they have to do with manipulating other people's aura to gain control over their physical body. I don't want to mention the name of the book. I'm sure there are more examples of exercises to manipulate ones aura in the physical present then what's posted in the book.
Hum help of Romano would that be an email address that was sent to me? Cause I emailed someone and never got a reply. I get get an email from someone please forgive I don't remember who it was from. They emailed me with information from Egyptian magic.
I come across other information, which tends to be quite often that leads me to a new path. I don't think it matters about if it's Egyptian magic. I also know he is using the chakras from the qabalah to attack me. The Egyptian use organs in the place of chakras. I have been recently attacked through my eyes.
today most people will use black magic without know that channels are used. I feel where the energy is enter my aura or body.
I had Nita helpiing me until I went to see this healer which knows my attacker. I thought everything was over.
I have been made tough, well exactually I have been emotionless the last few months. I have started to laugh more and was even able to cry. sounds odd huh to not cry when you are attacked everyday? It felt good I felt human once again. Most of my life I had to be strong, now when I should be able to be week I can't. Always having to be strong will make you very cold and uncaring. Funny thing is I gave myself up to being dead along time ago and it just hasn't happen yet. There are no tears for me just others.
I'm not sure what all you define psychic attack as but here goes. We all herre that are arguing in a sense is psychically attacking each other by the printed words we read with our physical eyes. Psychic is a term for the mind what we here define as a psychic attack is through the mind from unseen forces. Forces defined as energy.
My intention isn't to attack anyone from printed words. Also it may come across as so due to the content of material and first hand experience.
If I could just will this person away, which appears some of you here think can be done I would. What do you do when someone comes along that has a stronger will then you, but don't just call it will try force, force of energy?
Read about storing energy once someone could havae an aura three times the size of yours and if they sent twice as much energy to you then you have you also would be over come by it. Why do you think there are vampires to over people.
We believe in you, Criminalmind. Do not give up that which makes you human. They say God only throws at us what we can handle. I believe that you can handle this, and I believe that you alone could defeat this monster of a "human being." You are unique in and of yourself and can use this to do things he can never imagine, even if he experiences your consciousness with you. It doesn't mean he will understand everything. It all still goes into his own consciousness at some point or another so he can't understand everything that happens. If he's so busy with other peoples' lives, he will only screw himself over by not paying attention to his own. His consciousness isn't that powerful. He will always try to weaken you. But if you can separate yourself from what is happening, you can find your way out. Just enjoy the simple things in life, and have faith that one day this will stop completely and eternally. You can be free. Life is 10% what happens and 90% how you interpret it. Use his attacks to enlighten yourself. You can get something out of it.
If I may be so bold....orgonite is generally life-positive, and can be used to amplify intent/magick. Thats pretty much it.....
BTW - a friend of mine was getting some nasty nightmares from an attacking neg, I piled a fairly large whack of orgonite things (tb's, hhg's, etc) under her bed and the nightmares ceased.
I want to thank you inguma for actually mentioning something relevant to what I posted. Still, I have to disagree with you on the second part though, orgone tech can be used for a variety of purposes like amplifying magic/intent (look up radionics), they can also be used for other things, like making time travel devices (look up steven gibbs in google), or even free energy devices like the joe cell (look it up in google). Here's a suggestion. Instead of debating it, why don't some you actually make a powerwand and see if it works. Isn't that the only way you'll ever know - and if it works isn't it worth making an effort?
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Psychoenergetic reversal is different from what psychologists call secondary gain. A cognitive therapy-oriented psychologist might interpret John's behavior as secondary gain, the payoff (possibly unconscious) either being able to continue to lounge around the house and be lazy, or feel bad about himself (i.e.-I'm worthless) for not succeeding in improving his health. These would be his "payoffs" for not exercising. Certainly, for some reason, John is sabotaging his own efforts to be successful. You are psychoenergetically reversed when your actions are in conflict with your conscious, intentional desires.
Energy psychologists theorize that this conflict, at an essential level, is generated by an actual reversal of one's energy flow. A helpful metaphor is the action of two magnets. Imagine two cylindrical shaped magnets, each the size of a typical flashlight battery. If you push together one end of the magnet that is positive with one end of the other magnet that is negative, you will have a very solid connection. In a sense, the magnetic energy is coherent, in that they work together to create a balanced flow in and through each other. The two magnets will actually electromagnetically be drawn to each other to stick together. If on the other hand you try pushing together two positive ends together, or two negative ends together, they will repel each other because their energy is no longer coherent or in harmony but instead are in opposition to each other. We theorize that this phenomenon, illustrated by the magnets, is what occurs with psychoenergetic reversal. Essentially, the flow of your electromagnetic or chi energy, as it is intimately coupled with a particular thought field, will be energetically in opposition, or reversed. When this occurs, there is a disconnect with the energy that generates your thinking (i.e. – consciousness), as it manifests out in the world as action or behavior. The result for you ends up being self sabotage.
"I want to thank you inguma for actually mentioning something relevant to what I posted."
Well hey thats OK. How very sweet of you. In return, you might want to address some of the issues I have flagged against the YCYOR model, instead of ignoring them hhuumm??
"Here's a suggestion. Instead of debating it, why don't some you actually make a powerwand and see if it works. Isn't that the only way you'll ever know - and if it works isn't it worth making an effort?"
Yeah, I'm already on it, thanks. But I think its fair to say I have already made devices which are extremely powerful, including one CB which was....souped up, to put it mildly. I already have enough experience to know what this stuff is, what its properties are, its limits, and etc. As for the other things you mentioned, I dont believe the Joe Cell has anything to do with orgonite (it was around a long time before the latter, for a start, though it is a form of accumulator, which is different, although of course you know that right....), or indeed steve gibbs (who I know practically nothing about). I might be wrong. Although both would help from its inclusion, of course. Oh yes, did I forget to say that its a general cleanser and mover of energy? Well yeah theres that too.
CM!!
"They emailed me with information from Egyptian magic. "
I think that was probably me [:)], although I had never read it.
"I have been made tough, well exactually I have been emotionless the last few months. I have started to laugh more and was even able to cry. sounds odd huh to not cry when you are attacked everyday?"
Well, kinda, but not really. I guess with all the energy drained from you, its difficult to really feel alive huh? Like taking too many drugs, or having a hangover, euch...
What does this guy want from you???!!?
"Funny thing is I gave myself up to being dead along time ago and it just hasn't happen yet. There are no tears for me just others. "
Thats so so terrible, so harsh. Yeah well, like Enderwiggin said, we DO believe in you! You might want to try and mail Romero again, he might help you still. The healer is helping though right?
I guess its hard to even learn magick when you are so drained.
all the best....
Rob
you might want to address some of the issues I have flagged against the YCYOR model
Address what issues? It hasn't been proved to you? It doesn't seem to work for you? You can't link up spontaneous events to your thought processes? Well those are personal issues that you need to work on, because it HAS been proved to me - it DOES work for me - and I CAN link up spontaneous events to my own thought processes. Bub you need to do some personal R&D.
As for the Joe Cell, are you actually telling me that the Joe Cell was around before orgone tech.? Maybe you need to do some research because William Riech was the individual who gave it the name orgone & he died in the 1950's, while the Joe Cell came out in the 1990's. There are so many holes in what you just said I get a thumb cramp just thinking about it (good think YCYOR). I think its far to say you are not an expert on any subject I mentioned. I also have no interest in proving the YCYOR model to anyone on this board. Thats something you have to come to terms with yourself.
Oi, I said the Joe Cell is an accumulator, which is a very very different kettle of fish from orgonite. You do know that, right? And yes, I am aware when reich was around, but I am also aware of when don and carol croft invented orgonite....are you?
"Address what issues?"
Most of them are in my previous posts, I cant be bothered to retype them. Eg variables in exorcisms, effects caused on my father due to my effecting a neg he knew nothing about and thinks is BS, etc etc on and on. Even giving me a proper explanation what thousands of poor indians have done/thought (all on mass I presume?) to cause an earthquake to kill them all. It does not work.
"it DOES work for me "
Fair play and I see that. But you have steadfast refused to answer my many points, still. Just read back...
Rob
This discussion really is going nowhere, Shadowdancer, can you shine some light in this dim room?
namaste everybody [:)]
i am relatively reluctant to re-engage in this thread...but i am doin it so i will not complain further [;)]
imho, everyone is right. period. it is a matter of personal truth. no single person can "hold" or "contain" Truth. No one!! no one can "know" Truth with a capital T. i am using "know" in the context of debate, where ideas of right and wrong can become predominante where words like factual and appropriate should be. to "know" really means to be "one with". so no single person can claim to be at one with THE TRUTH!. the isnt even any such thing....
anyway, my opinion of the psychic attacks stuff is multidimensional. i have lived through the stuff. for me, that is one of the major points...those people dont bother me at all anymore!! i dont view my experiences as only being outside myself...although they certainly were!! and i dont view them as being just a figment of my imagination, so to speak. they were both. such deep deep psychospiritual and karmic issues were happening to me on a level that i was not completly conscious of. and this is one of the reasons that i suggested a good, loving therapuetic counselling type thing; because it was only AFTer i was able to look deep within myself and understand how I was responsible for those events in my life, i found the strength to see myself no longer as a victim of the fates. but this is my truth in my life and not necessarily for anyone else. as i posted before, my partner said something i feel was very wise; "are you content with where you are?".......hhmmmm...maybe a metaphor? if you find yourself trapped in a well and someone throws down a rope or some other metaphorical item for possible help...do you debate with that person about how the rope (or whatever) is not going to help?? i dont know if you guys have tried counselling...if you have, have they been people who are aware of energy, spirits and other aspects of a spiritual universe? or have they been materialists?? finding the right person that can help you feel safe and find out what you are feeling inside and how you are responsible for your own life is really really important. and it goes to the same kind of thing...if you truly are open to such possibilities that person, group or whatever it is that is gonna help you help yourself will find you!! much love, namaste
ps-arakara, i really like the crystal weapons!! about a year ago i was given very similar info from a crystal about how to make "light-sabre"-esqe things...very cool [:)]
*breathes a sigh of relief*
Shadow,
I understand where you are coming from with the counseling. Here is the thing, do to the circumstances of my attack I went into the hospital. Basically of my own, do to the fear of this person forcing me to hurt someone. I explained what was happen so I was labeled as paranoid. They are psychiatrist and they don't know enough about the brain or mind to know telepathy exist. In a sense they couldn't understand my problem. Paranoid was true but it's not a mental problem because the experience is true. Yes also to the physical point. I have seen things happen due to unseen forces to effect someone on the physical plane. The paraniod is based on physical and unseen forces, so the paranoid is not unjustified as many would think of as paranoid. Many could understand being in the physical presence of a dangerous situation and be paranoid of fearful. You experience your fight or flight response. I was on psych medicine that is suppose to control the psychological problem or mental, chemistry problem. It didn't stop, my attacks, it didn't have an affect on them at all. All it did was make me sleep, over 12 hours a day. After taking it for three months my body and brain would have had enough time to readjust to the medicine and thus not sleep so much. There is a key thing with medicine. if you don't lose much of the side effects that you experience when you first take the drug then the medicine isn't for you. I'm not taking the normal side effects that you have with some drugs. Most drugs will give you side effects and then go away within a week. I had a counseler he was into druidism and he also couldn't understand the problem. He thought that since I was only getting 4 hours of sleep a day and not getting REM sleep that it caused voices.
The church,is another story. They are aware of spirits. To what extent? They believe in the devil. Not to the believe of a spiritual devil and not in possession only in a few cases. I have gone to see atleast 4 priest and they don't believe in possession they tell you it's more of a psychological problem. They are more of a counsler then a religious, enity, practitioner. I mentioned to one about astral travel and they got a scared look on their face and took off.
That's why we come here to find help. It doesn't help me to hear ok you are hearing forces get more then 4 hours of sleep. People can't communicate with their minds only.
I did reading for people through my attacker. I was online he sent me the mental images of what was going on around the person. I seen a woman sitting at her computer, remote viewing. I talked to the person online and they confirmed all of it. How could it not be true. I aslo talked to another woman and she confirmed what I knew about her husband from the mental image. There was hints of verbal cues giving to me from my attacker but it was on a level that I couldn't hear him.
I know alot of people channel and they hear voices. I know by experience that my attacker uses male and female voices. I also know that my attacker can send other people messages making them believe that is coming from higher up. Whether this would be ones spirit guide or an enity or the feeling they would get from someone and make it what he wants. He is broadcasting through me or from himself false information. He has one psychic thinking a woman is attacking me. i can understand when Need posted here and said about his higher guarden angel being reprogramed. Something he said has clicked in me and I know there is something about it. I was told by someone that my mind/body/spirit connection is broken. They are separated.
*gasp* My dear god, this is what I have been trying to say all along![:D]
beavis:
"We are presently engaged in combating negative entities"
If you combat them, they become stronger. Ignore them and they leave.
-from: Astral Warrior House Accepting New Members thread
Another thing I have to bring up is, I am shocked at the number of people on this board who have said they've been under psychic attack. I been on some forums, and I cannot ever recall such a high number of people saying they've been attacked.
From a YCYOR perspective it appears many of the members are actively (though maybe not consciously?) engaging in a mass conscious manifestation - who together have manifested a psychic-construct, designed not only to attract person's who've been attacked but also to attract psychic attackers to these individuals. This construct appears to be empowered through the incessant conscious obsession with "negs." that some (most) members of this board have displayed. Its like a mass-group brainstorm about the how & what regarding psychic attacks, but curiously never the why. I have not seen one post regarding "why" would such an attack occur - maybe because that would invite personal responsibility into the situation - something certain people on this board try all too hard to avoid. Earlier I posted on this thread, instructions on how to build a simple instrument that hold to the potential to incapacitate (maybe permanently) attackers. I doubt these or any other instuctions will be tested or used by these members. Removing the attackers would imply a (positive) shift in consciousness, an elevation from lower fear-mongering thought vibrations to higher planes of consciousness (something that does not appear likely at the present moment in time). It is important to understand that to a certain degree a psychic-construct is partially a living entity - given birth by the energy that went into its manifestation & feed by conscious attention directed to it - and like all living things seeks further growth & expression of its being. A conscious - elevation among this group would kill off this construct, and like all living things it would FIGHT BACK, because like all living things it carries the desire to live. This would probably be played out in a "moment of truth" type situation, where a dramatic series of events would climax into a particular moment where there where the individual/group could go down two distinct paths. One path would lead to a mass conscious expansion of the group and the final dissolution of the psychic construct - and an end to all future psychic attacks or experiences w/negs. The other would lead an accepted position of surrender by the individual/group to this construct - that is, they would accept the "reality" of psychic attacks; and would then find themselves leading an existence mirred under sometimes inceccant, sometimes spontaneous attacks or "occurances". It will be interesting to see what path this group eventually chooses.
"and I cannot ever recall such a high number of people saying they've been attacked. "
We have a PSD section designed to help people in this situation, which is to the best of my knowledge unique, and further many people would not recognise what an attack is like, especially memories from when they were younger ("night terrors" - I have met people like this who had no idea what it was, and experienced it myself age 5). I once saw a documentary in a mental institution for teens, and it was quite clear to me the majority of them were not loony, but under serious psychic attack. I mean, it was BLATENT. But these kids were told they were "pschizophrenic" and etc etc. Which is what happens when people cannot accept/understand psychic attacks, they tend to end up blaming the victims, saying its their fault, they are ill, etc. (So, of course, these people were given the best psych help we have to offer, which totally failed to achieve anything - once again, YCYOR model falls flat on its face....)
"but curiously never the why"
Because thats an answered question. Negs survive on our energy or life force (chi/prana/etc). They connect to people at an early age (see "night terrors"), often going down family lines, and stick with them for life, spreading spiritual pollution, and generally making the lives of the victims miserable, while constantly feeding off them (I believe I can logically prove this from tests I have run). But this is not as important as how, as it doesnt really lead to any solutions.
Humans are different, they have their own crazy reasons.
"I doubt these or any other instuctions will be tested or used by these members"
I said, I've already done it.....and yes it does work to an extent, but its only a temporary measure, that is - it does not remove the root cause, it does not cut the connection to the neg. I have tried it on other people, and proved this to be true.
Are you at all interested in any of the evidence I can provide, or do your interests lie elsewhere?
"A conscious - elevation among this group would kill off this construct, and like all living things it would FIGHT BACK, because like all living things it carries the desire to live"
And I suppose you would be willing to help, right?......
To quote you "There are so many holes in what you just said I get a thumb cramp just thinking about it " - quite.
On another note, last night I was experimenting putting my point of awareness out of body and found that whenever I did this it simultaneously had to be accompanied by the creation of a point in my inner meta-space (mind-space). Very interesting.
Rob
ps Chaoite?
"The eye does not see what the mind does not know"
I can believe Psychic Self-defense Discussion forum has turned into A battle between belief of whether it occurs or not. This forum is labeled as such. Why would it be here if it didn't occur? Instead of talking about the metaphysical psychic attacks hre we are pychically attacking each other through the words printed in these post. I also find myself having to prove my sanity or whether I need counseling or not. I have been to counseling and I have taking medicine. Neither has any affect on me what so ever.
I would suggest that if you have never experienced a psychic attack then you are not knowledgable enough to post any matter on the subject. Nonbelieve of attacks suggest you haven't aquired the skills or knowledge to stop attacks. Otherwise if you knew how to attack you might know how to stop the attacks.
Once again I'm fighting for my right to be correct about attacks. I go through this with my attacker day by day. I came her for guidence from peeople that know about attacks to gain the knowledge to stop my attacks. Sorry I looked to this thread to find my COUNSELING from people that understand the situation. I can't got o the dr. because he don't understand what negs and psychic attacks are and they are BRAIN dr.s, I can't go to a counseler because they don't understand the metaphysical world. I can't go to a priest because astral travel is the devil's power. Maybe I just belong to the devil because everyone think's I crazy, in the old days if you had any problem or disease it was because of the devil. Now I got Negs after me and that's the devil also.
I see lock me up so I don't tell the truth in the matter and only a crazy knows the truth of psychic attacks.
It's odd that you will find psychic telling you how to shield, Most magic will begin with shielding any how to control enities. I would be better off learning demonology to control my neg and have it do my bidding then to be free of it. After all that's what magic is about aand the negs. Someone get's a neg to do their dirty work.
Before you deny psychic attacks you better do more research on magic or conjuring of spirits.
I came here to seek help and knowledge and I will continue to post anything that might help someone in this situation. If you have another solution then post it. Do not tell me what I experience doesn't exist because it has never existed for you. Don't tell me about my perception because your is not the same as mine. I have proof from other people that my experience is real. I had someone tell me there was a man aura surrounding mine. Obviously this person could distinguish between my aura and my attackers.
Why don't we quit arguing who is right and who is wrong here. Your not helping me and it service me no purpose to argue my perpective with someone closed minded to the posiblity that what I'm experiencing just might be true.
My question is Robert wrote a book on self-defense he also has this forum why would he if psychic attacks didn't exist? I have much respect for Robert because he is only one of several people that will come forward with truth.
Namaste,
Crimind, you are going to get your degree in criminal psych, right? I think that is beautiful! We very much need people like yourself, who have lived a reality that incorporates spirits, entities and other non-physical energies in places of authority. But there is SOO much responsibility with that...as I am sure you have felt before...Again, when I suggest counselling, it is in the same vein. For example, you said that the doctors you went to see simply chalked up your experiences to a form of self-delusion or schizophrenia. They had no understanding of the multiverse of human experience, material AND non-material. Both happen at the same time. This is really my perspecitive. I do believe that the attacks and other painful experiences are very real for you, and that is all that matters. So, when I suggest counselling, I am suggesting to open your heart and mind to that person or group that HAS that understanding that the experiences that you live through are REAL for you! And that should be all that matters. Counsellors who will NOT throw medication down your throat and have an awareness of energy...this is the kind of person that helped me. Help me what? Find a point of reference, and through finding a point of reference, balance. As I have said, for me, my experiences were VERY real and tremendously painful at times. But I have learned about how I do play an active role in the drama I call "my life". This is where I have to stop...because I can't be your counsellor. In my humble opinion, counselling is a very sacred process to take place in a SAFE SAFE space....advice is what you will find in these forums....I truely wish I could help you more. I wish you the best in all you do. God Bless You and May the Spirits come to Your Aid in your Darkest Hour. Namaste, In'Lakech, Yacunah
Criminal Mind, I never said that such attacks do not occur. Nor did I say that anyone on this forum requires counseling, or is ill,or is pschizophrenic, or is making up psychic attacks. As for myself I am more than skilled in how to prevent attacks, among other things. I find it strange how people on this board keep assuming that since I said YCYOR that means they are making the psychic attacks up or that they are not real. Of course the are real (as you accept them to be so they are). My last post was a hypothesis of the general situation surrounding this forum, and I believe it to be a correct one.
>After all that's what magic is about aand the negs. Someone get's a neg to do their dirty work.
Had to red flag this one. If thats what you truely believe magic is about, then your in for a bumpy ride.
>Are you at all interested in any of the evidence I can provide, or do your interests lie elsewhere?
I did not refute anyone's claims. I also stated observations. If you believe that such & such only does or doesn't work, then that is the absolute truth (for you not me). Once something is accepted as true in someone's being then that person will see it cooberated, verified, justified, and "proved" everywhere in their reality. Of course you have evidence, that believe is a part of your being...right?
Inguma, your response to "but curiously never the why" is more like a what & how. The question to be answered is why YOU[?]
>(So, of course, these people were given the best psych help we have to offer, which totally failed to achieve anything - once again, YCYOR model falls flat on its face....)
Again, I do not understand how the concept of YCYOR can be verified or tested by look at OTHER PEOPLE'S situations. My only guess that you might be trying to live vicariously through these other people, associating their potential success/failure with your own. The answer always lies in yourself.
And I suppose you would be willing to help, right?......
As much as I would love to stay and slay the dragons, I am about to embark on higher endevours & will not be in this forum much longer. I will come back at a later time and slay these dragons who/whatever they may be. I think you will also eventually find that I have already been a major help. Still, I find myself wondering, which path will the members of this board choose[?]
From what I've read so far in this forum, there seems to be alot of talk about negs and such. I wonder how many of you are familiar with the concept of personal reality creation, which states that a person's entire reality, including all experiences and circumstance, is outline and constructed souley from the thoughts he/she thinks and the beliefs he holds. If that is true, then these negs. are merely reflects of what you believe them to be, and the more belief you give to them, or more power you attribute to them, the more they will appear to have.