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disturbing "side effects" of esp?

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gangta

i have always been interested in esp in a passive way and have had many telepathic experiences...but since ive concentrated on it ive been having....disturbing moments. there are many times where i hear doors swinging open and slamming shut and i thought it was just people really where going in and out (im in a dorm after all)....but when i started to hear it in isolated places and outside areas where no door is nearby ive become concerned. there is also the problem of a dream (cant tell if it was astral or just a dream) i had where someone was trying to get me to do violent things....and when i woke up i still heard the voice and felt really weird....what is all this and why is it happening? :|

Sentinal

There are things that can be frightening and there are situations that may tempt you to do things that you shouldn't. Stay calm and always try to do the right thing. Never act out of fear or anger. If you stick to the right side you will be ok.

gangta

well its not that im usually angry or something (but when i heard that voice i had a weird feeling like i was angry at everyone and everything....odd) its just that weird things have been happening since ive focused on esp and chakras that i dont understand and i want to make sure nothings gone wrong

Novice

I've read that sometimes when one becomes aware of the chakras they begin to notice other sensory input. Different chakras have different colors, tones/sounds, and glands associated with them. I believe it is the throat chakra (visuddha or something like that) which is associated with sounds. It could be that you are experiencing random bits of clairaudience (hearing sounds outside the physical realm). The types of sounds you hear could be related to the environment you are in or the feelings/energy you are attracting at the time.

When these things occur, try and focus on the physical intensely. Make sure you are very aware of where you are and what you are doing -- a type of mindfulness. This may help you block out the unwanted sounds and maintain your state of mind amidst them.
Reality is what you perceive it to be.

gangta

this may sound odd but when these things happen its hard to concentrate on what im doing....its like somebody(or people) or thing(things) is really trying to reach me or something. so i with the other feelings i get an extremely nagging feeling in my head that i put all my effort into ignoring (friends worrying about me constantly going into a trance)

thanks for the input too. i really need all the help i can get in understanding this.

cainam_nazier

There is one thing that you really need to keep in mind when you are working on any kind of telepathy. And that is....Most people transmit thier thoughts, emotions, and wills on a 24/7 schedual.  They never stop.  Now for some one who is new to it you can become influenced by what others are thinking, feeling, and doing. 

You have to remember that these things are not you.  They are not comming from you.  As such you are under no obligation to even acknowledge them.

Part of the process is learning the control to be more selective about what you listen to.  You also have to learn to filter what is coming in.  That way it does not overwhelm you.  It is easy to get sucked into another persons thoughts in this manner.  You have to keep your own thoughts up front so thatyou can process the information comming in and not just absorb it.  It is best to work on this wih some one you trust until you learn control.

On a more serious note, and this is the only "doom and gloom" bit I go into about this kind of work.  And this is a point of experience!  Pay attention to the pitch and tone of any voices you may hear.  Most people think in roughly the same voice that they normally use, but the more important part of that is that the tone ad pitch doesn't really change unless they are angry or something.  But it is with in reason.  If you ever pick up on a voice that changes its pitch and tone while listening or fluctuates drasticly you need to stop listening.  Shut down and focus your mind on something else. 

Just trust me on the last part.

Dria

Quote from: cainam_nazier on October 15, 2006, 05:21:42
If you ever pick up on a voice that changes its pitch and tone while listening or fluctuates drasticly you need to stop listening.  Shut down and focus your mind on something else. 

I'm curious about this.  What does it mean?  Is it someone or something?

Leo Volont

Quote from: gangta on October 10, 2006, 11:22:34
i have always been interested in esp in a passive way and have had many telepathic experiences...but since ive concentrated on it ive been having....disturbing moments. there are many times where i hear doors swinging open and slamming shut and i thought it was just people really where going in and out (im in a dorm after all)....but when i started to hear it in isolated places and outside areas where no door is nearby ive become concerned. there is also the problem of a dream (cant tell if it was astral or just a dream) i had where someone was trying to get me to do violent things....and when i woke up i still heard the voice and felt really weird....what is all this and why is it happening? :|

Your're in a dorm.  Hmmmm.  You are probably drinking too, huh?

The problem is the booze.

I got a clue for you... normal people don't get drunk every night... just students, soldiers and lowlife alcoholics.

Quit pouring such concentrated solutions of poison directly on your brain 7 days a week and I can almost guarantee you that your paranoid delusions will notch back a bit. 

gangta

Quote from: Leo Volont on October 15, 2006, 09:41:25
Your're in a dorm.  Hmmmm.  You are probably drinking too, huh?

The problem is the booze.

I got a clue for you... normal people don't get drunk every night... just students, soldiers and lowlife alcoholics.

Quit pouring such concentrated solutions of poison directly on your brain 7 days a week and I can almost guarantee you that your paranoid delusions will notch back a bit. 

lol no thats not it but thats kind of funny. im not a drinker so im not having druken delusions. :lol:

cainam_nazier

Quote from: Dria on October 15, 2006, 09:28:25
I'm curious about this.  What does it mean?  Is it someone or something?

It's something(s).  It's not good.  I don't want to go into too much detail because like attracts like.

gangta

whatever that voice is its starting to be in my dreams and linger afterwards...im having more times where im caught between sleep and awake now and during that period the voice is more intense :?

cainam_nazier

Quote from: gangta on October 17, 2006, 12:18:24
whatever that voice is its starting to be in my dreams and linger afterwards...im having more times where im caught between sleep and awake now and during that period the voice is more intense :?

When you are falling asleep and in that time before you fully wake up are when you are most open.  That is when you will the most things.  Some of it is pretty standard stuff.  The nocks and bangs are something everyone tends to hear.  It has a lot to do with the way that sound is interpited.  It happens a lot with hearing music as well.  It's not taht you are actually hearing these things so much as you are hearing other things that are being inturpited as something else.  One of the odd things about these is that the sound can never fully be located.  It is always comming from some where else than where you look.  It can be the same with voices.

But you are describing a constant voice?  As in when you hear it you know it's the same voice as before?

It comming into your dreams can actually be a good thing.  In this eviroment you can force it to show it's self.  You have to understand that your dreams are just that, YOURS.  You are the one in control there.  You can use this to help you deal with and understand this voice.  Confront it next time it comes into your dreams.  Call it out even.  Force it to show itself.  And when it does show up you lay down the rules.  Use your dream enviroment to bar it from contacting you.  Doing this there will carry over into "real life".


One of the other things I did also when I went on continuing this kind of work was to mentally build a series of walls and doors.  I used a lot of imagery and constructed each wall with a door that only I have the key to.  In this manner I can more easily control what and how much I take in and at any point I think it is too much or possibley problematic I can easily shut the door.  For example if any information is comming too quickly I can I can shut the door so I can process it and then ease the door back open to control it's flow.   I keep my core thoughts in this area so nothing can screw with them.