Negs ! Negs Negs! any one botherd ?!!

Lighthouse · May 29, 2004, 15:54:47

Bravo Majour Ka!

I was thinking the same thing myself... People here seem to be obsessed with the Negs in their Astral Travels, yet they don't seem to realize that their minds create these negative experiences... It is all within their control, they only need to reign in the demons then they will recognize them as their own.

Thanks for the post.

Kerri

jilola · May 29, 2004, 16:07:11

I think the expression "Like attracts like" is a distortion of the reality.
It's more like "Reality reflects."
You literally get what you expect to get. What you get is a refletion of who and how you are at the moment. Nothing more, nothing less.

2cents & L&L
Jouni

Sentential · May 29, 2004, 22:06:56

Sadly....I must agree. I did many very...VERY, STUPID things to get the horrible attention I recieved. Looking back I must say that it was wholly self-induced.

Negs dont normally come after people unless they look / go down the wrong "rabbit hole". In otherwords, there are some things that are considered dangerous for a reason.

If you dont do anything stupid and focus mostly on clairvoyant and telepathic abilites you will be fine.

Now start going down the road of psychokenesis and the other more dangerous psionic sects, you had better be prepared to face the consequences.

James S · May 30, 2004, 00:33:07

There's a good reason behind what you just mentioned Sentinel.

It has to do with our aura, our ability to extend our spiritual awareness, and a rather important little thing that can be referred to as the "atomic shield" which is a fine layer of energy that sits at the outer edge of our etheric body - the part of our energy body that is in direct contact with our physical body.

When you start developing your awareness and psychic skills, what you're doing is extending the etheric body further out from your physical body. The futher it goes, the greater your awareness, abilities, etc. Our etheric body is our natural shield against the spirit world, just like our skin is a natural shield for our physical bodies. By trying to go too far too fast in either energy or psychic development, not going through the 'warm-up' excercises, not grounding properly, etc, you're stretching the atomic shield too much, and it can effectively tear, just as you can damage the physical body by pushing it too hard with out proper excercises.

This damages the aura, leaving it weak, torn, which leaves the person susceptible to influences from outside energies. This is where neg attachments tend to happen, just like picking up viruses when your bodies immune system is weak.

Staying healthy, keeping both your energy body and physical body in good condition, and staying emotionally balanced is the best defence against unwanted negative influences we've got, and its actually a very effective defence.

I also agree entirely that if you don't want to get burned, respect fire and don't do stupid things with it.
As to the "demon hunters" we tend to see here, running into the middle of a bushfire with a water pistol and bucket of sand to see if you can put it out is a very good way of getting burned.

Regards,
James.

majour ka · May 30, 2004, 08:23:56

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A traumatic experience can allow a Neg to attach itself deeply into the core of your being & surround itself with blocking & sabotaging energies. If you have had a traumatic experience it is quite possible to have a Neg attachment that only a psychic healer can remove

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Again I dont believe only a psychic healer can remove these problems, their are plenty of people who are going through problems, totaly unaware of any neg attachment, but through self help and changes for the better improve their situation and get rid of neg activity with out ever knowing anything about it!

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You can also have Negs (negative energy) attached to negative subconscious beliefs about yourself, other people or the world. You have to work on clearing these & they are not easy to find or clear. Positive thinking only goes so far.

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I believe positive thinking is the basic root and the first step in the dirrection of change for the better in any situation

majour ka · May 30, 2004, 08:26:12

To James S, good answer and very good advice, thanks.

Sentential · May 30, 2004, 08:50:59

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Originally posted by James S

I also agree entirely that if you don't want to get burned, respect fire and don't do stupid things with it.
As to the "demon hunters" we tend to see here, running into the middle of a bushfire with a water pistol and bucket of sand to see if you can put it out is a very good way of getting burned.

I would agree, however I had no intention of hunting them until they attacked me. Plus I dont go out of my way to find them <yet>. Plus the way I go about taking them out, leaves them as easy targets. At this point Im just glad they are gone.

Just as a friendly word of advice...dont mess around with things that use "neg" energy. Thats a sure fire way to make some unwanted friends

McArthur · June 03, 2004, 13:59:20

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I would suggest that since the nature of universal law means like attracts like,

Not necessarily, no. There is another well known saying that "opposites attract", the poles of 2 magnets being obvious examples. Also i would comment that there are many varying views of what "Universal Laws" there are and they are all mainly based on beliefs. Parasitic Entities dont necessarily have to feed off 'negative energy'. They feed off energy, full stop. Its similar to a Psi vampire (either one that knows s/he is or one that feeds off attention-energy unconsciously) that can drain you of energy that is basically neutral in nature.

I've seen this "You can only be attacked by a negative spirit if you yourself are negative" many times but it doesn't stand up to close scrutiny or when compared with direct experience. i.e. Robert Bruce has helped young babies suffering neg attacks. Or there is a lot of documentation of Saints being attacked etc etc.

When a mosquito sucks your blood does it do it because you are being negative or because "like attracts like"?

Humans feed on lots of different foods, where does the "like attracts like" equation come in there?

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the best and most aprropriate way of avoiding or getting rid of any unwanted energy/entity of any kind is through self change and positive mind development.

I don't disagree with that.

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I.e look to our selves to see whats so intresting about us to a neg?

Energy. One example is a succubus that feeds off the energy released from a human orgasm. Surely you're not saying orgasms are negative?

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And learning that the fear and negative thinking is what attracts such spirit to any individual.

I agree this does happen but this is only one example of the various types of negs. Not all negs need to feed off fear or negativity (see the succubus example above.)

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There are many violent and hateful people or people who are very negative whos mind energy reaches out into the dimensions where spirit pick it up and want to attach themselves to those people. I think there lies the potential danger of anyone whos too negative trying to develop pshycic ability to quickly with out first developing there positive mind.

I think one of the main reasons negs will target these kinds of people is because it's "easy food". All i am saying is we need to be careful not to jump to conclusions using bad logic by saying these are the only types of people who can or will be attacked. Positivity certainly does help but if a neg really wants to attack you for whatever reason, a positive mind may not be enough of a defensive measure.

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I dont believe theres anything that can physicly harm you in spirit, only the negitivaty caused by these expiriences that effects peoples minds can.

I will have to disagree here. I think that quite a lot of human illnesses are caused by some kind of negs.

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Im sorry to say this again ( ive mentioned it in other posts [:I])but All this has led me to believe the best way foward is by learning to nuture and encourage spiritual growth through learning to become our higher self, this can bring positive mind, balance, the ability to A.P, heal, clairvoyance, love, revalations, strength ( lol sounds like an add !) and the quality of mind that dosent need to deal with or be worried about negs. Thats my 2 cents,

What you say is partly correct in that this will probably be a good defense from most lower level type parasites. Even Buddha was attacked by the demon Mara and his host of dark entities but Buddha defeated them. But how many people out there are at the level Buddha was? I also suggest the story about Buddha disproves your assertion that like always attracts like.

majour ka · June 03, 2004, 21:26:07

Hey McAthur, im sure like you I like to keep an open mind, you have made some interesting points, heres my thoughts

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I would suggest that since the nature of universal law means like attracts like,

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Not necessarily, no. There is another well known saying that "opposites attract", the poles of 2 magnets being obvious examples

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Are you there for suggesting that the more positive you are the more negative energy or entity you are going to attract?! then that makes a worrying problem in any body becoming to positive!

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Also i would comment that there are many varying views of what "Universal Laws" there are and they are all mainly based on beliefs.

Ok that I agree with, Ive based my beliefes on reason and my own expiriences and also of Betty Shine, a very powerful and highly developed medium and healer who studied the effects of mind energy and positive behaviour and thinking, she was taught and guided in the whys and where fors of universal law by spirit.

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Parasitic Entities dont necessarily have to feed off 'negative energy'. They feed off energy, full stop. Its similar to a Psi vampire (either one that knows s/he is or one that feeds off attention-energy unconsciously) that can drain you of energy that is basically neutral in nature.

fair comment, but as you conseaded later in your post, the more positive a person the stronger and less likely they are to attractn and better equiped they would be to deal with such parasite,..True?

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I've seen this "You can only be attacked by a negative spirit if you yourself are negative" many times

I didnt actualy say that, I sugessted like ATTRACTS like..NOT like exlusively hangs out with like.

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When a mosquito sucks your blood does it do it because you are being negative or because "like attracts like"?

I understand the piont of your analogy, so ill elaborate with the mosquito. You could say that some one who leaves there window open on a hot summers night, or wades through the swamp in their underwear (the deamon hunter) is gonna get bitten. The next persons (the positive person, less reckless) protectes them selves with cream, shuts the window and puts the aircon on and is less likely to get bitten..get my piont.

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Humans feed on lots of different foods, where does the "like attracts like" equation come in there?

In the context of our conversation we are discusing, energy and entity existing in another dimmesion pshycicly attaking or trying to infuence us in some way right? dont see what the food chain of the physical dimension has to do with our subject? I.e you dont pray on a bag of chips, tackling it to the ground before squirting it with ketchup! we are discussing mind energy and how it inflences the energy and spirit around us are we not?

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Energy. One example is a succubus that feeds off the energy released from a human orgasm. Surely you're not saying orgasms are negative?

If you had planned on keeping your used orgasm energy then I guess that would be stealing.

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I think one of the main reasons negs will target these kinds of people is because it's "easy food". All i am saying is we need to be careful not to jump to conclusions using bad logic by saying these are the only types of people who can or will be attacked.

I do agree with that.

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attack you for whatever reason, a positive mind may not be enough of a defensive measure

Agreed, but its a step in the right dirrection

I dont believe theres anything that can physicly harm you in spirit, only the negitivaty caused by these expiriences that effects peoples minds can.

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I will have to disagree here. I think that quite a lot of human illnesses are caused by some kind of negs.[/quote

But what atrracted them in the first place!?

Im sorry to say this again ( ive mentioned it in other posts [:I])but All this has led me to believe the best way foward is by learning to nuture and encourage spiritual growth through learning to become our higher self, this can bring positive mind, balance, the ability to A.P, heal, clairvoyance, love, revalations, strength ( lol sounds like an add !) and the quality of mind that dosent need to deal with or be worried about negs. Thats my 2 cents,

QuoteWhat you say is partly correct in that this will probably be a good defense from most lower level type parasites. Even Buddha was attacked by the demon Mara and his host of dark entities but Buddha defeated them. But how many people out there are at the level Buddha was? I also suggest the story about Buddha disproves your assertion that like always attract.

Agian I said like attracts like, so bieng of a positive and balanced state of mind you are less likely to attract the unwanted. I didnt say at any time that bieng positive exludes you from attack or interest from negs, just thats a strong line of defence and not as iteresting to them.

And as you said Buddha did win! maybe a testiment to his positive mind? touche! []

P.s sorry about the small writting i messed the qoute thingy up![:I]

McArthur · June 07, 2004, 13:56:04

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Originally posted by majour ka
Are you there for suggesting that the more positive you are the more negative energy or entity you are going to attract?!

The point i was making is that it can't be a "Universal Law" that "like attracts like" when even in Physics there are examples of how "opposites attract". Plus one may find (although not necessarily always) that once one starts to light up on the astral one will tend to attract more attention to oneself.

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fair comment, but as you conseaded later in your post, the more positive a person the stronger and less likely they are to attractn and better equiped they would be to deal with such parasite,..True?

Yes i agree with that as i said.

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I understand the piont of your analogy, so ill elaborate with the mosquito. You could say that some one who leaves there window open on a hot summers night, or wades through the swamp in their underwear (the deamon hunter) is gonna get bitten. The next persons (the positive person, less reckless) protectes them selves with cream, shuts the window and puts the aircon on and is less likely to get bitten..get my piont.

I understand the point you are making and i agree with most of it but i dont think you understood the point i was making. A mosquito feeding off your blood is ~not~ a case of "Like attracting like" unless you would like to show how a mosquito is like blood or a human. It is very similar with certain types of negs.

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In the context of our conversation we are discusing, energy and entity existing in another dimmesion pshycicly attaking or trying to infuence us in some way right? dont see what the food chain of the physical dimension has to do with our subject?

You said that "like attracting" like was a "Universal Law". Is the physical dimension not part of the Universe?

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I.e you dont pray on a bag of chips, tackling it to the ground before squirting it with ketchup! we are discussing mind energy and how it inflences the energy and spirit around us are we not?

We are multi-dimensional. Food is energy. Also read this: http://www.deeptrancenow.com/paradigm.htm

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Energy. One example is a succubus that feeds off the energy released from a human orgasm. Surely you're not saying orgasms are negative?

If you had planned on keeping your used orgasm energy then I guess that would be stealing.

But do you understand the point i am making here? For "like" to be "attracting like" in the above situation you would need to show how or in what way a succubus is like an orgasm.

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I will have to disagree here. I think that quite a lot of human illnesses are caused by some kind of negs.

But what atrracted them in the first place!?

Energy!

majour ka · June 09, 2004, 19:11:42

Lol mcarthur [8D] I think you and I could be going back a forth for a long time!

Id like to think we have both made some interesting points and amongst it all im sure there are some truths. I do understand your moszie thing, I just wanted to nick your Mosquito for my own answer.

We could get in to spliting hairs as to weather the pharse "universal law" means its universal as in it pertaines to everything, or weather the way I desribe and believe "like atrracts like" is a law of the universe? and only applys in the context of which I had raised in the first place.

I think we can agree on some points, and agree to disagree on others.
Good debating with you, best whishes M. Ka

Andromache · June 10, 2004, 07:26:39

If like attracts like, how do you explain Robert Bruce's possession and near death out in the Australian Bush? Are you implying Robert Bruce as being an extremely negative person deserving of death?

majour ka · June 13, 2004, 19:52:26

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If like attracts like, how do you explain Robert Bruce's possession and near death out in the Australian Bush? Are you implying Robert Bruce as being an extremely negative person deserving of death?

Er.. No! If you read the posts through waht im trying to say is that the more negative you are the more negative energy or entity you are likely to atrract, ..prove me wrong[}:)]

Lets put it another way, we attract things and people of a similar vibration, thats not my words thats a spiritual law, for example we atrract people in our relationships who are of simmilar vibration.
Im not saying and never did say negs are exclusivly atrracted to negitive people.
It would be almost humanly impossible to be positive of mind 100% of the time, but the more we are, the less neg problems we are going to encounter. And ill say it again, a more positive person would find it easier to deal with.

Ok, can someone suggest why they think Most Neg problems acure, and why one person and not another?

McArthur · June 14, 2004, 08:45:03

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Originally posted by majour ka

Er.. No! If you read the posts through waht im trying to say is that the more negative you are the more negative energy or entity you are likely to atrract,

The thing is though is that energy itself is neither positive nor negative, per se. In certain states of mind though, some people tend to leak more energy than in others. For instance, someone who is being bullied is likely to project energy towards the bully as a kind of little-known instinctive subconscious reaction as part of the "fight, flight or flee" response. Bullies are like psychic vampires (which is basically what a neg is). They get a "buzz" out of doing it, most of them whithout realizing that the "buzz" is coming from their victims energy which is "neutral" in nature. If the energy was "negative", then we probably wouldn't have bullies anymore.

We should be careful not to mistake the word "neg" (used to describe a harmful spirit) to mean that these negs feed on negative energy. One of the things a neg uses to get a victim to release a lot of energy is fear. This does not mean it should be called "fear energy". It just means that in a fearful state of mind people give off and project energy towards that which they fear, therefore strengthening the object of their fears with their own neutral energy. This is why some people find what they fear in the Astral, thier own neutral energy creates it as a thoughtform that is neither negative or positive.

There is a saying that is related to this: "Where the attention goes the energy flows." It does not say: "Where the attention goes the negative energy flows." Read the Celestine Prophecy by James Redfield and his theory (which i largely agree with) that most arguments between people are a battle for energy. Its not "negative" energy, though, its neutral.

Cows might consider humans to be "negs" because of how we treat and slaughter them for food. But we don't consider Beef to be negative meat, its just meat.

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Lets put it another way, we attract things and people of a similar vibration, thats not my words thats a spiritual law,

And that is just a belief of yours which i very much doubt you can possibly prove. If you can't prove it then how do you know it's some kind of spiritual "Law"? Are you suggesting that children who get sexually abused have actually attracted the abuser to them?

It is really saddening the amount of New Age types out there who probably don't have a good word to say about the main religions because of dogma. And yet most of them are just adopting more dogmatic beliefs in a different package.
http://www.astralpulse.com/articles/robert/articles_31.htm#4

narfellus · June 14, 2004, 11:31:39

Good Lord! In my early youth i had so many bad emotions i could never find the true source of. Now i realize how my thoughts propogated worse thoughts, and i was probably a friggin buffet for negs. Like attracts like, that is one of the most useful blurbs in the world. If negs are thoughtforms created by us, they are essentially illusions created by the illusion (the duality of us being Spirit experiencing "reality")

The best defense against negs for anyone is to know they exist. Know that your thoughts are powerful tools. Know that your words are vibrations and vibrations are like spells and thought is energy and energy never dies. I think the author of Embraced By the Light, (Beatty?) said it best: "If we knew the power of our thoughts we would guard them more closely. If we knew but the power of a harsh word, we would prefer silence over anything else."

Our very thoughts and emotions can create certain types of negs, and whatever we radiate out is drawn to us. It's hard to control ones thoughts, but not impossible. It takes practice.

majour ka · June 14, 2004, 18:29:05

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like attracts like

but a neg hanging around you can attract bad things to you too.

Someone can send their neg after you which then attracts bad things. I have had strange things happen around me, then I get intuitive advice on what to do & everything works out.

Cool, Its good when things work out, [

], scary face lola lol, was that specialy for the post? or it your new look xx

To Mcarthur, my ideas obviously dont float ya boat, what would you recomend as a good line of defence against and for avoiding negs?

M.Ka

McArthur · June 14, 2004, 19:38:02

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Originally posted by majour ka

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The thing is though is that energy itself is neither positive nor negative, per se. In certain states of mind though, some people tend to leak more energy than in others. For instance, someone who is being bullied is likely to project energy towards the bully as a kind of little-known instinctive subconscious reaction as part of the "fight, flight or flee" response. Bullies are like psychic vampires (which is basically what a neg is). They get a "buzz" out of doing it, most of them whithout realizing that the "buzz" is coming from their victims energy which is "neutral" in nature. If the energy was "negative", then we probably wouldn't have bullies anymore.

How many bullies try it on with confidant positive people?

It depends if the bully sees you as a threat or not.

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One of the things a neg uses to get a victim to release a lot of energy is fear. This does not mean it should be called "fear energy". It just means that in a fearful state of mind people give off and project energy towards that which they fear, therefore strengthening the object of their fears

Wouldnt it be great to be centred positive and fearless!

Of course it is. Hopefully you understood the point i was making, though.

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There is a saying that is related to this: "Where the attention goes the energy flows." It does not say: "Where the attention goes the negative energy flows." Read the Celestine Prophecy by James Redfield and his theory (which i largely agree with) that most arguments between people are a battle for energy. Its not "negative" energy, though, its neutral.

Great book!, and as they follow the coincedences they raise there vibrations and positive energy levels, and with there inspiring new positive energy and thought and higher vibrations , they atrract more coincedeces, and spiral upwards and onward brilliant!

And even though (or especially because) they are raising thier energy and positivity levels they get chased by the Church and Government/Army agents of Peru, America, China and almost get killed in the process. And Shamballa, the most positive place on Earth, gets destroyed.

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Cows might consider humans to be "negs" because of how we treat and slaughter them for food. But we don't consider Beef to be negative meat, its just meat.

Very true, but we are still talking about the effects of
M I N D E N E R G Y, may be you are reading a different post?

Did you read the link to the story of the Buddhist monk Pema Tense? Are you saying you believe the physical dimension to somehow be seperate from your mind?

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And that is just a belief of yours which i very much doubt you can possibly prove. If you can't prove it then how do you know it's some kind of spiritual "Law"? Are you suggesting that children who get sexually abused have actually attracted the abuser to them?

Mmm, I wonder what kind of Karmah and neg activity the twisted and sick mind of the abuser is attracting, then again if you dont believe in the effect of the mind energy we put out, you wont believe in the karmic affect, weather good or bad.

Referring to the abusers karma level does not answer my original question. Can you answer it? A simple yes or no to it is fine.

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Do you understand the relevence of vibration in the different dimmesions? and that we raise our vibration as we evolve?

What is it that vibrates?

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our higher selves attract us to circumstances that match and suite our vibrational pattern that help us learn and progress.

Perhaps that happens sometimes, if we manage to connect to Higher Self. I don't think it happens all the time though. Unless you would like to explain what a 5 year old child could possible learn from being sexually abused? Or what an Etheopian can learn from starvation? Did this girl die because she wasn't positive or confident enough or because she had something to learn by it?: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3794821.stm

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Ok, its widely believed that certain guides and angels are atrracted to people who are creative or evolving in a spiritual way, weather it be baking cakes, singing, falling in love, or becoming a healer, hands up who agrees.
So then it stands to reason that some one involved in negetive thoughts or actions, deceat, violence, crime, black magic,drug abuse or what ever!, is going to attract spirit and probably a few mates who are going to find this realy interesting! Im I wrong?..like atrracts like.

While i do think that some things attract negs more than others (i.e. easy meals) you can still be positive, non-violent, non-criminal etc and get problems. Ghandi got assassinated you know? Thousands of Tibetans have been killed or victimised and most of their monasteries destroyed.

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And if I cant prove it how do I know its some kind of spiritual law!?
Learn to communicatte with your higher mind my friend and you may find the answer there.

I'm sorry but you are the one making the claims. If you are not able to back up your claims with evidence then why should anyone believe these spiritual laws are correct? If you have been given this information by your Higher Self then please do share the story of how the information was passed to you.

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It is really saddening the amount of New Age types out there who probably don't have a good word to say about the main religions because of dogma. And yet most of them are just adopting more dogmatic beliefs in a different package.

Even more sad when some one cannot keep an open mind and has to post derogetory remarks to the people who dont conform with there beliefs.
Ive learnt somthing here.. hope you have M.Ka [8D]

On the contrary, i think you are the one who is not keeping an open mind. Instead you seem to be defending your belief system. I didn't mean to be rude, so apologies if it came across that way.

Andromache · June 15, 2004, 10:36:52

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Er.. No! If you read the posts through waht im trying to say is that the more negative you are the more negative energy or entity you are likely to atrract, ..prove me wrong

It is statistically impossible to prove someone wrong. One either proves or fails to prove.

Negs will go after a person for food, or if they hold a grudge, or if the target is a healer.

Why was Robert Bruce possessed and why is he constantly under attack.

Sentential · June 15, 2004, 10:58:40

Or why am I constantaly attacked? Although in my case its justifiable. Im working with SD right now to get specifics.

In other words. Negs only "come after you" if you have something to offer.

They will not phsyically go after you if they dont see anything of interest in you. So because of this the whole neg attachments is entirely reletive.

To break neg attachments you must find the source of it. <as I am doing so>.

Mainly knowledge of their existence does wonders of protecting out. They are cowards and liars and seldom have direct conflict unless its for a good reason.

But more than anything else, STAY OUT OF THE CROSSFIRE. If you keep a low profile then they wont bother you. But if you stick your neck out, they will be more than willing to oblige.[xx(]

Sentential · June 15, 2004, 11:21:46

No no....its definatly not like that at all. I have something they want *desperatly*, but I refuse to give it to them, for my safety and others.

I have plenty of defenses at this point. More than anything else I need to learn energy generation techniques

Sentential · June 15, 2004, 14:41:15

Did you allow them to enter you at some point? *NO*
Did you want them to enter you for some reason? *HELL NO!*
Did you ever seek them? *NO, I was tricked, they guised as the divine*

As I said. I didnt know what a neg was until now. I always thought they were demons or just in general nasty b*****ds. They always appeared shadowy.

They started appearing as I started using my gifts. Although my mother implied that as a baby I used to scream (at random points) as tho I was bein attacked, and squirming away from some unseen attacker. She said that it scared her to death to see it, cuz she couldnt figure out WTF was wrong.

Sentential · June 15, 2004, 15:02:01

^^ Hmmm thats reletive. In the sense of the mindset required to do it? No. Im old enough now to see where they were leading me.

So in that reguard no, Im not any more. Their attention is focused on recovering the Chimera I have, at the moment. Unfortunatly for them they cannot have it.

My guess is that they fear what it may be cabable of in the hands of the angelic.

Besides I wouldnt call it the dark arts. I had no idea what I was doing back then. Now that I do, I wouldnt touch that stuff again.

Plus to be honest everything that I possibly want from it I already havem and have converted its energy focus into posivive, not negitive.

The only shred of neg energy, abeit *alot*, is the chimera I have sealed....rather bound to me. I cannot feel its effects and its energy dosnt leech into mine, so I dont think Im in any immediate danger. Especially since Ive had it (apparentally) for a very long time.

Sentential · June 15, 2004, 17:03:37

They wont.

However they have tried possessing me, and confusing me into serving under them. At this point they know I (conscously) would never join them, so they have been forced to supress / cage me by using dogmatic principles against me.

Basically voiding me of all emotion etc for the purpose of "enlightment"....yea right.

Right now they are simply running out of options. I will enjoy being free of them once and for all.

majour ka · June 16, 2004, 08:42:13

To mcarthur, allthough we cant agree on many things and seem to viewing this subject from a different point of view, I do uderstand your points, and also find your posts very inteligent and rational,
Good luck with all, still your friend M.Ka [^]

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