observations of negs

[NodesOfYesod]

 

[McArthur]

Some good observations, I like the sword idea, I've been doing that myself too. It is probably not advisable to get into conversations with negs but at times when one wouldn't shut up I kept firing the following questions at it over and over and it went quiet.

Who are you? How old are you? Who is your mother? Who is your father? Who created you? When were you born? When did you die? How long have you been dead? Who is your grandmother? Who is your grandfather? What is your name? Where are you? Why are you there? Who are you...? etc

Fire them at it without waiting for answers rapidly over and over.

[Anonymous]

so simply by suggesting things to you i often can get what i need from you simply by suggesting something and then reading your
responses.

Are you talking about you or are you talking about the negs?  Not clear on what you are implying here.

i was a good natured person its not my intention to harm a soul but i have found that if you do not fight back its 100% worse because there is no humanity

Excellent choice of words here..."no humanity".  I stopped saying things like "they are not spiritually evolved" when I realized that what I was really talking about, as a Being who is both human and spirit, is that they are not humane.  

and if you let them they will eat you alive

Agree one hundred percent.  In fact, I use to think, and still do, that part of their methods is to use some form of AI (artificial intelligence) because I liken them to sharks, relentless and constantly regenerating.  

i don't want to spend day after day night after night barking like a dog it makes me feel dirty and worthless and it conflicts with my nature

I felt much the same way when writing a suicide letter to my family (which fortunately they never had to read) because I found myself changing, becoming something I was not.  Enraged, in sorrow, spouting profanity towards them--I did not want to be that.  I did not feel dirty or worthless but I felt that they were lowering me to their level--no respect for ones soul, individuality, or inherent love nature.  They want to burn all that down, and will if you let them.  

with this in mind i forged a sword made out of my faith and used this to fight the negs hand to hand for a year when bothered by a
neg i would cut there head off and again and again and again it worked in my favor that using my faith i could fight them and win
over and over again but i realized that i had become a slave again because no matter how many i attacked and no matter how many i
drove off there was always more and more it seamed that there was an endless amount of negs and i would spend my whole life in my mind cutting off heads

Ditto for me too.  I discovered that some of my mental projections, weapons and so forth, did do the job, but there was always another to take it's place.  It is a very short lived, temporary solution.  

its not always easy to tell a good soul from a bad soul but i know this.. a good soul will never take anything from you and will not
make you feel confused or ashamed or less than you did before they arrived

I agree.  No matter how shrouded in light or love the being is you encounter, no matter how wise the words sound, if you are left with a feeling of shame, confusion, or less than you did before, then this is not love.  We should settle for no less.

[McArthur]

It is probably not advisable to get into conversations with negs but at times when one wouldn't shut up I kept firing the following questions at it over and over and it went quiet.

Who are you? How old are you? Who is your mother? Who is your father? Who created you? When were you born? When did you die? How long have you been dead? Who is your grandmother? Who is your grandfather? What is your name? Where are you? Why are you there? Who are you...? etc

Fire them at it without waiting for answers rapidly over and over.

I just came across an interesting synchronicity that I'll share. I was reading this short post by this guy (below) about Christ and Christianity and he says this (something I didn't know when I wrote the above post):

http://freezoneamerica.org/pilot/posts/2002/xmas.txt

Unfortunately we have lost most of tech that let Christ
walk on water and raise the dead.  Even his trick of
exorcising demons by asking them "who are you" (mentioned
in many medieval references) was not properly understood
until re-analyzed in the proper context in modern
Scientology.

So me firing those questions out at one of these entities was kind of like a mix of Christ's method and Scientology, and I didn't even know it. I just started doing it without even thinking why.

[Anonymous]

Even his trick of
exorcising demons by asking them "who are you"

Wow, if that's all he had to do...

I asked many times "who are you?", especially in the beginning stages when they were outside of me, trying to get in.  Never a response.  And I still asked when they were inside though I would never trust their answer.  One can't help but ask that question of an attacker.

[IronWire]

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[McArthur]

Wow, if that's all he had to do...

I'm sure there was more to it, as you are probably aware. Perhaps him talking to the "unclean spirits" meant he took them within himself away from the victim and dealt with them from there. Not something us ordinary people would want to do obviously, but possible (an Adept in Dion Fortunes "Psychic Self-Defense" does something very similar.)

I asked many times "who are you?", especially in the beginning stages when they were outside of me, trying to get in.  Never a response.  And I still asked when they were inside though I would never trust their answer.  

Well just so I'm clear on this part I wasn't suggesting people talk to these spirits, just fire the questions at them without waiting for a response. I'm now wondering if even that is a good idea to be honest. Robert Bruce says, and I agree with him, that talking to them may help them to make more attachments to one.  Perhaps it's even one of the ways they get inside of us. Perhaps talking to them somehow allows them into our space, which is why things like Ouija boards are dangerous. What do you think?

One can't help but ask that question of an attacker.

I also have found it hard not to talk to them with them being there all the time, but I'm now beginning to see that this may be making me more vulnerable to their invasive attacks. If I talk to them then this is probably giving them a direct link to my mind....  rather like a vulnerability in a computer firewall. If one talks to a Hacker, say on ICQ or something, then that person then will know (if they are good at it) which of ones ports are open and what ones IP number is and perhaps have a direct link to ones computer via the ICQ. Does that make sense, it only just come to me?