Possessed by Ghosts - Exorcisms in the XXI century

[McArthur]

More golden nuggets for the psychically opressed!

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[CaCoDeMoN]

More golden nuggets for the psychically opressed!

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I didn't knew that there are such people in Poland... What she's talking about is extremely similiar to Robert Bruce's "negative enities"!

And to 2020:
I think that L.Ron Hubbard was only a drug addicted nutcase, not a real satanist. And what you are saying about Demons is a lie. The humanity is enslaved only by it's own mistakes, and by problems caused by low-level entities, but form what I've read about Near Death Experiences the Angels and spiritual guides are the ones who are obsessed with control of humanity. From where do you think the full version of MerKaBa came from? From demons of course.

Their only law being "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"

You are right about that, but I think that morality and honor should not be FORCED by external powers, and people should LEARN that pleasure is not the only thing they need.
I think that morality should not come from religion, but form parents, and from society, and should not be based on what some god told to do.
Dedicating your soul to Satan cannot be done subconsciously, and is done not only for money/power, but mostly for protection. Of course I didn't do it, because the most valuable thing for me is freedom.
You say that you are a very spiritual person, but why there's so much hate in your post?

[CaCoDeMoN]

Hey! Why that 2020 post disappeared?

[You]

Oy I knew it had to happen in Poland. I'll send a ghost every month until they smack that kid who took my name :p

[CaCoDeMoN]

Oy I knew it had to happen in Poland. I'll send a ghost every month until they smack that kid who took my name :p

what name?

[Sentential]

I think people blow this issue of "possesion" way out of proportion. Only maybe .0001% of the entire population actually ever becomes "possessed" in the litereral sense.

I think they are looking for ways to find exsuces to why their lives are so sad / pathetic / lonely

[McArthur]

I think people blow this issue of "possesion" way out of proportion. Only maybe .0001% of the entire population actually ever becomes "possessed" in the litereral sense.

I think it depends on your idea of what a "possession" is supposed to be like and whether you believe in Hollywood films or not. If a spirit is in your aura/body and is able to influence your thoughts and actions (but not specifically your body) what would you call it? And this happens to people without them even knowing they have a neg problem.

I think they are looking for ways to find exsuces to why their lives are so sad / pathetic / lonely

Sounds like something a neg would say. And believe me, i know a lot about negs and how they work and the kinds of things they say. You see, negs very much want people to believe they don't exist and/or that their interference with humans is very rare. Humanity's ignorance of negs kind of empowers the negs because if you don't know there is a problem you're not going to try to do anything about it. And that's how negs like it and want it to stay that way. And at times they will even pretend to be "Spiritual Masters" (or whatever their target will believe most) in order to propagate disinformation about themselves. The Zeta are a prime example.

[Sentential]

Sounds like something a neg would say. ........ You see, negs very much want people to believe they don't exist and/or that their interference with humans is very rare.

Yes and no. Your comment about me as a neg is true to a certian degree. There was a point in time where I wasnt a very nice person when it came to psionics, (psionic vamp, mind controller, all sorts of nasty stuff) but those days are gone and I have seen ther err of my way

Humanity's ignorance of negs kind of empowers the negs because if you don't know there is a problem you're not going to try to do anything about it. And that's how negs like it and want it to stay that way. And at times they will even pretend to be "Spiritual Masters" (or whatever their target will believe most) in order to propagate disinformation about themselves. The Zeta are a prime example.

Yes I agree the issue with the Zetas does concern me. However Negs do not want to be know, not because of some global plot, but purely because they are cowards. Their pride betrays them and they claim "all your base are belong to us" in an attempt to scare people into thinking that they have power in this world, when they clearly do not.

Fear should never be shown around a neg, they have come up with pretty ingenous ways to convert that nervous energy for their own purposes. Simply stand up to them and call them for what they are: "cowards, liars, bullies, and thugs" They have NO power here in this world...absolutly none unless you surrender it to them

[McArthur]

Yes and no. Your comment about me as a neg

Ah, a misunderstanding. I didn't say that you was a neg, I said that what you said sounds like something a neg would say. It was just an example.

Yes I agree the issue with the Zetas does concern me. However Negs do not want to be know, not because of some global plot,

Who mentioned global plots?

but purely because they are cowards.

I totally agree. They can also be very cunning though.

Their pride betrays them and they claim "all your base are belong to us" in an attempt to scare people into thinking that they have power in this world, when they clearly do not.

Well, if someone has a neg attached and doesn't know it then the neg obviously has an advantage in those cases. Which is again why they don't wish to be exposed.

Fear should never be shown around a neg, they have come up with pretty ingenous ways to convert that nervous energy for their own purposes.

Agreed.

Simply stand up to them and call them for what they are: "cowards, liars, bullies, and thugs" They have NO power here in this world...absolutly none unless you surrender it to them

Someone with a neg problem that doesn't know they have a neg problem, or someone who knows but doesn't know how to get rid of them, hasn't exactly "surrendered" power to them, they just lack knowledge that negs don't want people to know.

[Sentential]

Very true. They didnt say "the first step to recovery is to admit you have a problem" for no peticular reasons ya know. However I think people are trying to find trouble where there is not.

God / Demons dont send pain your way simply because they hate you or you have something they want. Paranoid dillusions are not somthing that should apply to the relationship between spirits and people.

9 Times out of 10 negs are self-induced and are not from outside sources is the point I am trying to make.

[McArthur]

Demons dont send pain your way simply because they hate you or you have something they want.

Sure they do, they want to feed off your energy.

Paranoid dillusions are not somthing that should apply to the relationship between spirits and people.

Someone suffering a possession isn't having a paranoid delusion, although having a spirit possession problem can sometimes cause them.

9 Times out of 10 negs are self-induced and are not from outside sources is the point I am trying to make.

Well, this is a big debate amongst occultists about what exactly spirits are, let alone what "negs" are (thoughtforms, demons, astral shells, "astral wildlife", lost souls etc). There is the "It's all in your mind" crowd with a belief similar to yours and there is the other belief that spirits are not "just in your head" but actually have separate existences. I lean toward the latter. I certainly don't think 9/10 negs are "self-induced" delusions.

Again, and please don't take it personally, but that is the kind of belief a neg would want one to have so that instead of seeing an exorcist you see a shrink and take pills that have no effect on negs, and may even make things worse if the pills make the person into a zombie and therefore easy prey to negs (disclaimer: I am in no way saying people should not see a shrink or stop taking medication if that is what is recommended, or that all mental illnesses are neg-related. -- What a tricky situation eh?).

[Sage Daedalus]

Dunno if this has been said or not, but anyone interested in depossession practices in a modern sense should read the book Unquiet Dead by Dr. Edith Fiore. Its a good book, as it is written from the perspective of someone who was initially skeptic of the paranormal. An easy read, but full of insight and information.

[G3MM4]

God / Demons dont send pain your way simply because they hate you or you have something they want.

Well, IMO pain is a part of life, it's there to make you stronger spiritually/personally. It's part of personal growth. I would say that if you believe in God, then pain is part of His plan for you for the purpose I've pointed out above. I do agree with what McArthur says, negs do want something that you have - your energy.

[G3MM4]

Do you often happen to experience:

Changeable moods
Depressive states
Easily losing control of your emotions and falling into strong negative emotions
Weakening of your body and mind
States of panic, anxiety
Headaches, stomach-aches
Dependency on narcotics, alcohol etc.
Suicidal thoughts
Personality disorders

BTW I have 7 out of the 9 descriptions listed above. Does this mean I have a neg problem???

[Sentential]

Do you often happen to experience:

Changeable moods
Depressive states
Easily losing control of your emotions and falling into strong negative emotions
Weakening of your body and mind
States of panic, anxiety
Headaches, stomach-aches
Dependency on narcotics, alcohol etc.
Suicidal thoughts
Personality disorders

BTW I have 7 out of the 9 descriptions listed above. Does this mean I have a neg problem???

No it means that you should go see a doc cuz youve probly come down with the flu Either that or you are suffering from 9:5 job.

The problem is that people have confused "amospheres" with actual spirits. Your atmosphere is negitive and that is a problem, but a physical neg is not behind it. It is purely cooicidence and a result of the actions you have taken in your life.

The only one that isnt up there that is a tell tale sign of negs:

Phobias (within reason, could be a product of a past life)
Nightmares (with specific intent)
Physically seeing negs (not in a schiso sense)
The feeling of "someone is here" in this room when you are alone

Half the time like i said, its not a neg, but just the atmosphere and not a neg itself. Depression etc is a cause of atmosphere. There are instances where people you know are negs, bad girlfriends, adults, people in authority, etc etc.

Just try not to confuse atmosphere from the neg. In this occasion where there is smoke, there is almost never fire. I may follow logic in the sense that:

"If i feel bad or negitive it must be a neg"

But it simply isnt true.

The negs that bothered me as a kid was completly different than alot of the cases I hear. Im sure anyone could cook up "paranoid" dillusions, but when the involve precognitions, actual peoeples names, and other non-psychic people seeing them, the situration changes

[Andromache]

I think Sentential is right, communication is necessary to really explain what it means to be under neg attack. Changing moods is too general and vague a description and could mean anything. Now if someone said, moods forcibly changed without assistance from yourself, as if the emotions were dissociated from you and acting without your assistance, that would sound more neg oriented.

We have to do a better job of being more specific with our experiences if understanding is ever going to develop.

[McArthur]

No it means that you should go see a doc cuz youve probly come down with the flu  

I don't see how this is a laughing matter. The person was being serious and obviously has a problem and you're cracking jokes? Doesn't that seem to you to be a little... insensitive?

(snips the rest)

And I hate to be blunt (I'm not one who enjoys causing friction) but it's obvious from the rest of your post that you know very little about the subject of negs. Can I ask if you have a spirit guide?

[Sentential]

You'd be suprised, I didnt mean to offend. My point is that people take life waaaay too seriously. As though they are on some sort of mission ordained by god. I wasnt trying to be insensitive, but more humourous to lighten the somber mood in this thread. Laughter is the best medicine.

I was once really serious about the issue of negs, but the older I get I am begining to see just how trivial it is. Life is meant to be experienced and enjoyed, it is not a burden.

Modern Xtanity does a poor job of representing this and I can see why depression runs rampant in the world today. Perfection is simply impossible and striving to be perfect isnt what life is all about. Its about new expereinces.

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As for the subject of negs, I do indeed know a great deal on the matter. I take a more jovial approach to it. You cannot cure negs with force if tehre is not change in the diplomacy.

People will never be free of negs unless they free themselves. Atmosphere plays a big role in this.

As for a spirit guide, sure yea of course. I have stopped talking directally to spirits because the inteference from my atmosphere and my own Ego makes it exceedingly difficult.

Instead I rely on more empathetic commands and suggestions. That is in my opinion the only way to be accureate. Words are poor means of communications since they are verbal noises used to communicate thoughts and feelings. What better way than to use the feelings themselves