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Title: psychic vampires
Post by: Jon_88 on March 09, 2004, 05:42:27
Hmm From a similar thread i got the impression that half the population in this forum is Pvamps .Im no beliver in them so i guess im not afraid either. Even if they where/are real it would be like being afraid of Martial artists , rapists , terrorists  . Only those allready hurt have reasons to fear. Chances to be victimized is very low.

Title: psychic vampires
Post by: Mick on March 09, 2004, 07:48:03
quote:
im wondering if there is anyone on this site that is a psychic vampire,

Defining what is meant by the term could be interesting :)

There are many who talk of raising and drawing energy and some would also say that they seek to draw it from a high spiritual source. a suitable colour is often added to mark it as such. But my thought is that all energy drawing could be considered a vampiric action but I suspect that the term is more often applied to energy that is perhaps considered second user. But even this could happen in a somewhat natural manner in that where there is a grouping of people in an energetic frame of mind someone in proximity might well (involuntary) draw on this due to there being a need to top up and why not :) Of course there will be those that might try and take advantage and draw for more selfish reasons and that may be considered a no no by others. In my view there is so much energy about that if someone or even something has to deliberately draw from 'people' sources then this suggests that they might have previously cut themselves off from more natural sources.
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: Moonburn33 on March 09, 2004, 09:58:58
a theory that i would like to ascribe to someday goes something like this:

an entity came from outside this reality and realized that it wouldn't be able to maintain a foothold here unless it had an energy that was similar to its own.  so over the eons it became(the entity) degraded into a subtle energy, no longer actively sentient(that i know of).  
Energy vampires are people who have this energy attached to their energy bodies.  it's a symbiotic relationship in which the host receives certain kinds of physical and energetic perks in exchange for prana.  it's not a choice that one can make, one either has the energy or doesn't.
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: Nita on March 09, 2004, 23:32:53
Hello Everyone
  I know that some claim to be psyvamps. I also know that half of the forum is a little high of an estimate. The best way to know is how you feel from a persons post. You can feel the difference with some people. When that happens you just cut any emotional cords of a negative nature or not read their posts.
  Psyvamps do hurt others and their drawing the energy will cause health problems and other problems with them having to change victims after a while because they can not draw the energy off of them. I do not find them harmless.
  No one needs to do this because energy is there for everyone.
           Nita
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: rhinegirl on March 09, 2004, 23:40:32
Yes but what if one is a psyvamp. can they be rehabilitated? Can they have semi-normal lives? How do you differentiate tween those who have vampyric tendencies and thos who trully are the vamPYRE?

Jessica

Must....feeeeeeeeeeeeed *bites into Nitas aura*

quote:
Originally posted by Nita

Hello Everyone
  I know that some claim to be psyvamps. I also know that half of the forum is a little high of an estimate. The best way to know is how you feel from a persons post. You can feel the difference with some people. When that happens you just cut any emotional cords of a negative nature or not read their posts.
  Psyvamps do hurt others and their drawing the energy will cause health problems and other problems with them having to change victims after a while because they can not draw the energy off of them. I do not find them harmless.
  No one needs to do this because energy is there for everyone.
           Nita

Title: psychic vampires
Post by: Nay on March 09, 2004, 23:43:59
OHHhhhhhhhhhhhh...me thinks, Rhinegirl just bit off more than she can chew......[;)]

Have at it, Nita...

Nay [:D]
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: Dancer on March 10, 2004, 00:52:27
quote:
Originally posted by pyro4571

ok i am wondering, how many people out there are afraid of psychic vampires, and why.
also im wondering if there is anyone on this site that is a psychic vampire, if so please state it here, or pm me. i would like to talk (dont worry i wont tell dark knight who you are. [she freaked out on me when i first came to this forum, an started calling me a deamon, cause of someone else she met on another site that had a similar screen name[:P]])



Extra maturity points for digging you boot into dark knight?  Never mind, she's been barred from the site if you didn't know.  That was a cheap shot mate.  Im sure you gained an ego boost by saying it but at what cost, and to whom?  Do you have double standards maybe?  Do you think that DK has no feelings and wouldn't be hurt or upset by that?  If you think she's done something wrong, two wrongs don't make a right.  Stop badmouthing her already people, its just plain wrong.  Where is your conscience.

Anyway, from what I gather, during any personal interchange energy is fluctuating back and forth between each party.  Sometimes the energy is given, for example as a compliment, and sometimes it is taken, such as when you insult someone.

If you go around giving people your energy by always complimenting them and being nice and avoiding conflict, your doing yourself a disservice because noone knows what you're really thinking.

By doing the opposite, by going around insulting people and being rude, you are taking energy from them (you know if you've just been insulted you feel bad?), which is a form of vampirism.

Another form of vampirism we've talked about here recently is one where someone does the "poor me" routine to gain sympathy of others, because sympathy is energy directed toward someone.  

I think the book "celestine prophecy" outlines this scenario very well.

I think theres a lot of vamps on this site, but its not an intentional choice. Many people don't realise that, for example, saying a bad thing about someone, even if its just a joke, has no other purpose than trying to score energy at the expense of someone else.
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: Sam on March 10, 2004, 01:02:06
That last post was by me...  Didn't realise my partner was logged in at the time.
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: Nay on March 10, 2004, 01:24:02
Eh, I am sooooooooooo lost[:P]

To my friends that is normal....but...WHAT?

quote:
That last post was by me... Didn't realise my partner was logged in at the time.
Please explain...for the simple folk, aka..ME!

Nay.
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: Mick on March 10, 2004, 06:28:38
quote:
Originally posted by Nay

Eh, I am sooooooooooo lost[:P]


It means that he came to use the PC his partner was already logged on to AP thus when he added a message it posted under his partners name.
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: Mick on March 10, 2004, 06:41:30
quote:
Originally posted by Nita

Psyvamps do hurt others and their drawing the energy will cause health problems and other problems with them having to change victims after a while because they can not draw the energy off of them. I do not find them harmless.
No one needs to do this because energy is there for everyone.
           Nita


So a question is why do some do it when it is freely available?
I have given my thoughts but would like to hear if there are others.
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: Kerrblur on March 10, 2004, 08:11:43
theres no arugeing this because i aint replying to this after today:

You people who think psi vamp is real kewl, well karma is whats going to hurting you in the long run, plus pyro4571, you are a big crooked liar, you were it, i know you were the first day that Thread was started, you mmessaged me on instant messager infact i still got your s/n and i could feel you stealing my energy. i am not stupid, I am prolly one the the most prominant energy practictioners on this f*cking forum. You definently have bad vibes, you have bad karma, and I hope its gonna affect you one of these days for the rest of your life, Only reason I dont drain you everyday that I breath is because I wont go as low as you.  You would be miserable if I did.  God doesnt look down after children who misuse God's generous gift of life.  But I am going to perform a DV Technique on you, Maybe give you a glipse of what people feel when you do this accidentally or purposely, or even doing it, but thinking your doing good but Consistently 'accidentally' draining people STILL!

Some people HAVE to get energy from other people, but alot of times thoughs people go through there lifes not knowing a THING about this stuff. but once you have the knowledge of it, thats a key to learn to control it if you gain knowledge of it.  You are someone who Drains people on your own will.  

Title: psychic vampires
Post by: rhinegirl on March 10, 2004, 09:00:50
ROFLMAO!!!!![:D][:P][:D][:P][:D][^]

Jessica

quote:
Originally posted by Kerrblur

theres no arugeing this because i aint replying to this after today:

You people who think psi vamp is real kewl, well karma is whats going to hurting you in the long run, plus pyro4571, you are a big crooked liar, you were it, i know you were the first day that Thread was started, you mmessaged me on instant messager infact i still got your s/n and i could feel you stealing my energy. i am not stupid, I am prolly one the the most prominant energy practictioners on this f*cking forum. You definently have bad vibes, you have bad karma, and I hope its gonna affect you one of these days for the rest of your life, Only reason I dont drain you everyday that I breath is because I wont go as low as you.  You would be miserable if I did.  God doesnt look down after children who misuse God's generous gift of life.  But I am going to perform a DV Technique on you, Maybe give you a glipse of what people feel when you do this accidentally or purposely, or even doing it, but thinking your doing good but Consistently 'accidentally' draining people STILL!

Some people HAVE to get energy from other people, but alot of times thoughs people go through there lifes not knowing a THING about this stuff. but once you have the knowledge of it, thats a key to learn to control it if you gain knowledge of it.  You are someone who Drains people on your own will.  



Title: psychic vampires
Post by: Kerrblur on March 10, 2004, 09:21:10
Whats the problem Dummes Weibchen, you got something to laugh about? PM me
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: rhinegirl on March 10, 2004, 09:35:46
quote:
Originally posted by Kerrblur

Whats the problem Dummes Weibchen, you got something to laugh about? PM me



*watches little american twitch and froth at the mouth*

Jessica[}:)]
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: James S on March 10, 2004, 15:14:36
Sorry Kerblur, but Rhinegirl's our little ego compass - she'll get magnetically drawn to someone making brash egotistical statments and then seek to stick a pin in them. She's quite good at it really, and I'm afraid your ego lit up like a lighthouse.

If I use Nita's principal for feeling the energy of posts, your's comes off feeling very dark and murky. This started out a more or less peacefull and interesting topic, and you just inserted a whole load of unnecessary aggression and negativity in it. Please try to tame your comments a little more in future. Posts like your's are not needed.

James.
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: Kerrblur on March 10, 2004, 15:27:33
I apologize greatly, i really do, I am laughing right nwo because of the stupid comment I said.  Theres one thing I do need to learn, is to control some things.  Stacey Wollf told me that exact thing, if you know who she is, but maybe not.  I needed a kick in the butt maybe.  Just that i been on a 24/7 training rush on learning this energy thing, how it interacts with people, controlling it, and I cannot control crap sometimes apologize!!  

And i also apologize to rhinegirl.
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: pyro4571 on March 10, 2004, 17:29:14
hey Kerr i apoligise if i did steal some of your energy. it was not intentional. i dont like to make people angry at me. i am also wondering what is a DV technique? please forgive me. i will try to control it better.
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: James S on March 10, 2004, 17:48:35
Thanks Kerrblur[:)]

Human nature - I think we all do that from time to time, especially when we've just been crammed with fresh knowledge.

Regards,
James.
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: pyro4571 on March 16, 2004, 16:08:52
hey kerr are you ever gonna answer my question?[:P] just wondering...
Ps: it was "what is a DV technique?, and did you use one on me?"
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: Kerrblur on March 16, 2004, 16:23:54
i apolgize for my aggressions....

No I didnt, I will PM you later what it is.  

Title: psychic vampires
Post by: pyro4571 on March 16, 2004, 16:32:55
ok cool thanks
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: pyro4571 on March 28, 2004, 13:11:38
ok im going to try to bring this topic back to life, as i am still interested in it.
any more opinions/views would be appreciated.
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: G3MM4 on April 05, 2004, 12:56:43
I must say that when I was reading this topic, i could feel some aggression from certain members.

Of course, (obviously) aggression is linked to anger. Anger is very energy - draining. I ought to know because I store a lot of anger at certain people in my life, and now I'm constantly tired and have a severe lack of energy. (I'm currently looking for ways to get rid of the anger and by doing so, hopefully get back some energy.)

Do you think that strong negative emotions could have vampiric effects? I.e. anger feeding off your energy - therefore making you feel tired etc.? Do you think depression does the same thing? (I also suffer from depression.) Or is it just people who do that?

Title: psychic vampires
Post by: pod3 on April 29, 2004, 10:52:13
Well, it is not insignifigant to this forum that one comment rocked the boat for quite awhile.

They say that you can steal energy from someone during a handshake to take the lead position. Losing an argument causes energy not just to drain from you but to go toward the victor. Pretty people have attentive energy focused toward them *and out of you. Commercials are intentionally hyperstimulating for a reason. Think of the symbolism of a leader redirecting the energy volunteered by the subjugate.

Taking energy is a way of showing dominance. So, turn attention inward in a circus atmosphere. When it came to me to do so, I only prevented drains in general. My heart chakra swelled, and my entire system rebalanced. This tells me that I was manipulated emotionally, but there are many other physical arenas of manipulation.

The beginning of the drain will cause the person to have minor deficits. Once they are really broken down, they get totally submissive. Even commonplace methods of brainwashing wear the subject down, first. Then the controller only has to take possession by leading the person on.

From incomplete explanations in books, I have read  that controlling people actually makes them happier, and they owe a debt of gratitude to you. I would make sure that noone is wearing me down.

You may wish to start by investigating rays emanating from your chakras. They seem to be the base of very thin chords, which stretch infinietely thin and attach themselves to things. Are they giving or taking?

Do the rays attach themselves to images in blurbs above other people's heads? Factors leading to world events?
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: Mick on April 30, 2004, 10:54:50
quote:
Originally posted by pod3

They say that you can steal energy from someone during a handshake to take the lead position. Losing an argument causes energy not just to drain from you but to go toward the victor.

Perhaps interesting is the opposite whereby a healer when shaking hands will often transfer energy to the other person. Seeing the other person recognise and react can be interesting [:)]
quote:
From incomplete explanations in books, I have read  that controlling people actually makes them happier, and they owe a debt of gratitude to you. I would make sure that noone is wearing me down.

To clarify for me :) are you saying that the controller is grateful or the person being controlled. If the latter I would agree that some are beguiled by the attention and sensations that they may experience during such processes opening them up to further drains.
quote:
You may wish to start by investigating rays emanating from your chakras. They seem to be the base of very thin chords, which stretch infinietely thin and attach themselves to things. Are they giving or taking?

Coincidently thin cords is something that I have been discussing elsewhere and have had two experiences today that involve such. Do you have further experience of such?
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: lifebreath on April 30, 2004, 14:00:04
Everyone, who is in their "natural" state is vampiric. People buy, consume, manupulate, etc., to fill the void within, because they are disconnected from God and their true inner self. When a person is "born again" of spirit, breaks out of the shell of sin - selfishness, ego, greed, etc - and emerges into true life, they become, as Jesus said, filled with living water that wells up from within. This inner wellspring frees the person from needing to consume and take and moves them to a position where they can give, give and give more. Since this person is connected with the infinite Source - God - they need not fear "running dry." As they cultivate the inner source and tap deeper and deeper, they are able to give more and more freely, without "needing" in return.

"Psychic vampire" is a term that simply describes a person who has perfected the art of taking from others to fill their own energy vacuum.
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: pod3 on April 30, 2004, 21:26:34
quote:
Originally posted by lifebreath

Everyone, who is in their "natural" state is vampiric. People buy, consume, manupulate, etc., to fill the void within, because they are disconnected from God and their true inner self. When a person is "born again" of spirit, breaks out of the shell of sin - selfishness, ego, greed, etc - and emerges into true life, they become, as Jesus said, filled with living water that wells up from within. This inner wellspring frees the person from needing to consume and take and moves them to a position where they can give, give and give more. Since this person is connected with the infinite Source - God - they need not fear "running dry." As they cultivate the inner source and tap deeper and deeper, they are able to give more and more freely, without "needing" in return.

"Psychic vampire" is a term that simply describes a person who has perfected the art of taking from others to fill their own energy vacuum.



To me, this why the fall of man caused earth changes.
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: pod3 on April 30, 2004, 21:36:55
quote:

Coincidently thin cords is something that I have been discussing elsewhere and have had two experiences today that involve such. Do you have further experience of such?



Yes. The perfect energetic state is supposed to be like a diamond, channeling white light. Normally, people are blotchy, or fuzzy.

The fuzz is said to be prana aura, but it always seems to be reaching further, to another picture. The thoughts may enter through different channels depending upon their nature. Someone's intellect may be apealled to through the head chakra, or a bad smell may be depleting energy through the nose, etc.

Attack from behind could be in the past or subconscious.

Seeing why Eastern-style and shamanistic religions tend to say that these stretchy ectoplasmic chords attach themselves to everything we think about, it looks to be important that we are disciplined in thought.

quote:
To clarify for me :) are you saying that the controller is grateful or the person being controlled. If the latter I would agree that some are beguiled by the attention and sensations that they may experience during such processes opening them up to further drains.


The claim is that the person being controlled is grateful. In my experimentation, I have seen that they are dazzled in a way. They feel like they are cool for being  in the presense of the popular guy, or maybe like you're protecting them. Stockholm Syndrome comes to mind.

Energy is consolidated as you use it up. The rush they feel burns them out. As you get their attention, they think the elation they feel directed toward you is their own sense of appreciation.

It's not a worthwhile experiment. You still have to do everything for the subject. The only difference is that they capitulate. It's no less difficult than earning respect.

Also, the energy is not naturally easy to assimulate. Everything returns to it's source. They'll always come back for it until it is somehow cut off from them. Then, the effect is like cutting off light from a flashlight. It just turns off.

If you take the servile position, your energy will just go to feed your cause.



Title: psychic vampires
Post by: Mick on May 01, 2004, 07:17:43
quote:
Originally posted by pod3

quote:

Coincidently thin cords is something that I have been discussing elsewhere and have had two experiences today that involve such. Do you have further experience of such?


Seeing why Eastern-style and shamanistic religions tend to say that these stretchy ectoplasmic chords attach themselves to everything we think about, it looks to be important that we are disciplined in thought.

That is also an experience that I have noted, the connectivity simply grows with time and presents an extensive and interesting range of outcomes[:P]
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The fuzz is said to be prana aura, but it always seems to be reaching further, to another picture. The thoughts may enter through different channels depending upon their nature. Someone's intellect may be apealled to through the head chakra, or a bad smell may be depleting energy through the nose, etc.

This I think follows on from the above in that links established by any manner have potential to be active connections and there is a need for pragmatic house keeping particularly amongst the sensitive.

quote:
The claim is that the person being controlled is grateful. In my experimentation, I have seen that they are dazzled in a way. They feel like they are cool for being  in the presense of the popular guy, or maybe like you're protecting them. Stockholm Syndrome comes to mind.
As does fluffy bunny syndrome :)
I just wanted to confirm :) being part of something is a very strong lure and we see the extreme examples all too often in some of the cults that we hear about now and then, the comfort zone of maybe celeb culture and/or some types of belief system does I think have a positioning effect for some peoples minds which may not be beneficial.

quote:
They'll always come back for it until it is somehow cut off from them. Then, the effect is like cutting off light from a flashlight. It just turns off.

If you take the servile position, your energy will just go to feed your cause.

Emotional tag games :), our societies in some quarters seem to be making a virtue of such and possibly feed into exploitive energy machinations.
Title: psychic vampires
Post by: pyro4571 on March 08, 2004, 17:52:40
ok i am wondering, how many people out there are afraid of psychic vampires, and why.
also im wondering if there is anyone on this site that is a psychic vampire, if so please state it here, or pm me. i would like to talk (dont worry i wont tell dark knight who you are. [she freaked out on me when i first came to this forum, an started calling me a deamon, cause of someone else she met on another site that had a similar screen name[:P]])