Can you get rid of shadow visitations by turning on the lights?

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yondaime109

I'm home alone right now and my parents find it neccesary  to leave me home alone all day on Saturdays.  I have never seen a shadow person but I've been googling these things you guys keep mentioning and honestly, I kinda scared now. Please don't say these things aren't real.

Xanth


yondaime109

Quote from: Xanth on May 12, 2012, 23:06:49
Here's my advice... stop scaring yourself.  :)
That won't change anything. How can I avoid these things that obviously exist?

Killa Rican

QuoteI have never seen a shadow person but I've been googling these things you guys keep mentioning and honestly, I kinda scared now.

You just said you never ran into one, so if you never came across one in your life, theirs no need to suddenly "imagine" one is going to go after you in your house right now. Stop worrying.

Shadow People usually gather in places with a lot of trapped negative residual or haunting energies. You want to see a shadow person? Go to the Town/fields of where the battle of Gettysburg was fought. 57,000 casualties in 3 days. Lots of lasting trauma and anguish. Huge Hotspot for activity.

You'll be fine.
For those who believe, no explanation is necessary. For those who do not, none will suffice. ~Joseph Dunninger

Lionheart

 Turn on the Cartoon Network and have yourself a laugh. Seriously, you can Google car crashes, Tsunamis"s, Earthquakes.  There is a ton of things to make you scared or you can just live life and whatever happens happens.  :-)

yondaime109

Quote from: Killa Rican on May 13, 2012, 01:26:57
You just said you never ran into one, so if you never came across one in your life, theirs no need to suddenly "imagine" one is going to go after you in your house right now. Stop worrying.

Shadow People usually gather in places with a lot of trapped negative residual or haunting energies. You want to see a shadow person? Go to the Town/fields of where the battle of Gettysburg was fought. 57,000 casualties in 3 days. Lots of lasting trauma and anguish. Huge Hotspot for activity.

You'll be fine.

Well, I put salt along my door way so I hope that helps. I'm a bit cautious about putting all around my house because I don't want to risk a chance of trapping it in my house (If it exist), Now I'm really scared because now they I accept their existence. I may be next. I'm afraid to let go of them to because they'll attack me when I'm not expecting them.

Lionheart

 Are you reading anything that people are trying to say to you here?

Stillwater

Indeed lol.

Let's look at this idea:

QuoteNow I'm really scared because now they I accept their existence.

So you were not scared before when you were not aware of them. And now you are scared, because you are thinking of them.

So why think of them? Even if they were there, they obviously did not affect you in any way you could see.

Now that you think they might be there, that does not change the fact that even if they exist, they don't pose any aparaent danger.

Think of another example... you know there are tons of microbes all around you covering EVERYTHING. They are far more prevalent than any shadow people could ever be... there is no place you can go to avoid the microbes. And you know this, yet you are not afraid of the microbes... because they generally don't pose major danger to you if you are responsible, so you really don't even think of them at all. Why should shadow people be any different? Stop scaring yourself with the idea of them.
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

Karas

This one time, I was Reading alot about demons and ghost and I watched so much videos on it that I ended up being very scared when it comes night time. It happend when I was into zombie movies too and I truly belived that zombies will invade us lol and trust me there's alot of sites and videos that will make you belive zombies are real. 

Shadow people are ok, no need to worry about them ^^ the stuff your prolly talking about were written by people with beliefs and have no idea what there talking about. I've seen a few shadow dudes, in this reality and in my astral mind reality. Nothing to be afraid of ^^ 

I also need to note that the days when I saw them was when I was in a really low state of mind and in that state you start to hear voices and things moving very fast and stuff. Plus paranoya which makes things worst. This one time lol i was in bed and I think I was done Reading on how to summon shadow beings and my tv made a cracking sound that it scared the crap out of me. And I was only Reading about the subject.
And I was already paranoied at the time and belived that my tv may of moved because the screen was faceing me. The tv didn't move but in my sub-mind I belived it did
Firmly understand that there is no joy or sorrow in this world. If you believe worldly objects are a source of happiness, in their absence you will feel sorrow. Accept the fact that there is no true happiness in the world.

Xanth

Quote from: yondaime109 on May 13, 2012, 01:15:15
That won't change anything. How can I avoid these things that obviously exist?
Obviously exist?

That's you convincing yourself that they exist... hence, stop scaring yourself.

Xanth

Quote from: Lionheart on May 13, 2012, 05:05:08
Are you reading anything that people are trying to say to you here?
No, yondaime109 isn't reading it.
He (she?) is waiting for someone post something that falls within his belief system before he'll read and accept it.

Meh... scare the crap outta yourself.  At this point, the only person who can help you out of your 'fear-mess' is yourself.

yondaime109

It's not that I' m having trouble understand your post.The advice your giving me just isn't practical. Has simply ignoring a demon ever helped you? I'm angry at my friend for even mentioning the astral world to me/ And like fly attracted to the moonlight I swarmed and fed my curiosity until that curiosity become fear. And now I'm trapped by my own mind and the world it manifest for me. I can't just ignore this because it won't work.

Lionheart

 If you watched that video link I gave you that was made by a respected member of the science community, you would understand what is happening to you and why. He works for NASA and is hired as a threat assessor for many different agencies. The advice isn't practical because you wish to ignore it. The advice people are giving you here is based on what they have learned to be true. You are coming here for help and people are trying to help you. I'm sorry you can't find anyone here to share your fear with, most people here have learned or are still learning to CONFRONT their own fears.

yondaime109

Quote from: Lionheart on May 13, 2012, 05:05:08
Are you reading anything that people are trying to say to you here?
Lionheart I'm not trying to be a spamming jerk, But I think Ghost are actually in my home now because they have been harassing in minor but noticeable ways. I'll try you guy's advice but I'd like some more advice just in case this doesn't prove practical enough. I expect to see one of these creatures tonight when I go to bed. Should I ignore, talk him down, turn on the light or what. I just don't want to deal with this all my life.

LightBeam

If it will make you feel better, get some holy water and sprinkle around the house. If you think these entities are bad, get a priest and let him cleanse your area. It is proven that the intension applied during such ceremonies do produce effects because of the pure belief itself, thus the energy of the person becomes very strong.
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

Killa Rican

It's stuff like this that makes the paranormal world appear inconsistent.

So let me get this straight, you read ghost stories online, and now you think you have ghosts. Just take the advice. Stay away from all occult information if you cant handle it.

No horror movies, no ghost stories, no ghost books, stay away from the internet. Play video games, take up a sports, go outside for wallks etc.

If you had actual reasons to suspect you had spirits in your house that were causing problems in your life and for the people around you, THEN THATS ONE THING, It's another to think one is standing right next to you because you think it's right there. Your MIND FILTERS.

I dont know all the details about your "situation" or anything about you or your life, these "Minor annoyances" I will give the benefit of the doubt if they already had a ground to stand on so that means go see a Doctor and get all medical, or 'rational' explanations out of the way first, but so far, your being given this kind of advice due to the nature of the way your explaining your situation. You just admitted you "THINK" you have ghosts right after reading about them! As for anything else, none of us are here to confront these energies for ourselves face to face to help you with this problem, and if you ask any random joe on the internet, chances for metaphysical mis-diagnosis is extremely high..

Repeatedly, we feel you will be fine, if you let yourself be fine, and be grateful it really isn't is what you think it is.

That's all I have to say on this matter.
For those who believe, no explanation is necessary. For those who do not, none will suffice. ~Joseph Dunninger

Xanth

Quote from: yondaime109 on May 14, 2012, 17:41:09
Lionheart I'm not trying to be a spamming jerk, But I think Ghost are actually in my home now because they have been harassing in minor but noticeable ways. I'll try you guy's advice but I'd like some more advice just in case this doesn't prove practical enough. I expect to see one of these creatures tonight when I go to bed. Should I ignore, talk him down, turn on the light or what. I just don't want to deal with this all my life.
Until you realize that YOU are your own worst enemy here... you're screwed.

yondaime109

@ Killa rican they've been touching me and I feel them, I've also heard them laughing and growling at me. I've told my parents about it and they think I'm going crazy and are taking me to a mental facility to see if there's anything wrong with me ( I hope they're right). I just can't deny there existence and as stupid as it sounds it does make sense that me purely fearing these things attracted them to my household. I've also noticed the house flickering and it doesn't usually do that. I'm not making this up.

@Xanth Definitely I am my worst enemy because I've manifested my own hell.

Lionheart

Quote from: yondaime109 on May 14, 2012, 01:44:10
I'm angry at my friend for even mentioning the astral world to me/ And like fly attracted to the moonlight I swarmed and fed my curiosity until that curiosity become fear. And now I'm trapped by my own mind and the world it manifest for me. 
Here is exactly where your problem began. You have answered your own questions. Read what you said here. The problems didn't start until YOUR FRIEND MENTIONED IT TO YOU. Then you immediately swarmed and fed your curiosity. You didn't have any problems before this, can you see my point?

yondaime109

Yes, But will the ghost automatically leave if I don't believe in them? I mean even the people who don't worry about them run in to them eventually. I can't take this lightly I have no idea wth i should do.  I don't think i cam just turn it of like that. They're here in my house right now, I can't deny this and I know this is confusing alot of people but I've gotten so crazy about them that they know this and want to pick on me. I'm afraid to face these bastards. And even if I do face them that won't be the end of it will it? I hope my sleep pills start working soon I don't want to sit on the toilet all day with the lights on again for 5 hours.

Lionheart

Quote from: yondaime109 on May 15, 2012, 01:12:00
Yes, But will the ghost automatically leave if I don't believe in them? I mean even the people who don't worry about them run in to them eventually. I can't take this lightly I have no idea wth i should do.  I don't think i cam just turn it of like that. They're here in my house right now, I can't deny this and I know this is confusing alot of people but I've gotten so crazy about them that they know this and want to pick on me. I'm afraid to face these bastards. And even if I do face them that won't be the end of it will it? I hope my sleep pills start working soon I don't want to sit on the toilet all day with the lights on again for 5 hours.
YES, they will cease to exist. I have faith in you, now you have to have faith in yourself!  :-)

spark

Hi.  I have answers for you.  If you have more questions, feel free to send me a direct message.  First, Xanth is correct.  You are perhaps just unduly scaring yourself.  However, I understand that you want to know how to deal with them regardless.  So, I will provide explanations that have worked for me.  I had similar experiences for a long time.  And, now I have no worries at all.

Basically, the technique is simple.  First, when you see such a thing, you should embrace in feelings of love and try to feel love for the world around you (not necessarily love for the shaddow being ... although, that is perhaps okay ... but, i would not direct your attention soley at it as you will see it kind of conflicts with the next part).  Second, when you see such a thing, you should say goodbye and focus your attention away from it.   Turning the lights on is helpful, as is happy type music (especially, kids songs).

This might be hard to appreciate.  But, you are where you are thinking.  If you spend time worrying about these entities, then you are probably just increasing the chances of seeing them.  It is perhaps like searching the woods for a bear in fear of a bear.  If you fear the bear, stop looking for it.   Also, I think it is actually worse than that.  I think it is more like searching for the bear with food for the bear to eat.  Here, your fearful energy is probably enticing to some entities.  As you can see, I advised to focus on love.  Love is power.  Most neegative entities turn away from such power.  Love is ind of like you being in harmonic resonance with the power of the world. 


Anyway, next, the world is full of scary things.  Bears.  Ticks.  Bacteria.  Guns.  Cars.  You have no real reason to fear these things, however.  You have the power to step out of there way.  Of course, if you sit in the road.  Or, if you try to feed bears.  Or, if you call out into the night for scary shadows, then you might increase your risks.

But, have faith.  Life works.  You "are" able to stay very safe.  Just sit tight.  Relax.  And, trust yourself.  That is, trust your ability to refocus and pull yourself into a different place.


Anyway, sleep tight ... don't let the bed buggaboos bight. :-)

Steve

spark

Oh yes ... one more thing.  Even "IF" you do see some shadowy entities, there is really a rather low risk of anything bad occurring.   Its not like folks are sucked up by shadow creatures.  You don't read about that in the news too much.  Most likely, nothing will happen ... So, your risks are very low.  I think, at the worst, they might be a bit like bugs ... feeding on little bits of excess energy we give off.  Things like stress and fear might be like sending food off to them.  Of course, that is just a maybe.  They might also have absolutely no impact on virtually anyone.  Nevertheless, I do know from experience that they can be freaky to see.  And, last, who knows really what they are ... while seen as "entities," they might not be ... so, not really worth the worries.   Turning on the lights (and maybe turning on happy music) and remembering to feel love and faith are all you need to do.   Well, other than to eat well, exercise and do your homework!

Stillwater

Short answer:

If they exist, yes, they will continue to exist whether or not you believe. But what others have said remains valid- the problem is not them... the problem is you obsessing over them.

"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

Pauli2

Just send them Love and Acceptance. Ask them if they have any friends
they want to meet and try to sense if they leave you.
Former PauliEffect (got lost on server crash), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauli_effect