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Hi there folks.  I'm just wondering if anyone has had any success with Robert Bruce's technique for removing moles/blemishes using a biro?  I'm posting this here because it appears in his Practical Psychic Self Defence book.

For those that haven't heard of the technique, you draw a geometric shape - RB suggests a cross in a circle, over a mole and this somehow (he isn't 100% sure in the book) affects/directs the energy flow in that area.  A blue biro is said to work the best!

After anything from a week to maybe months, the mole will eventually 'peel' off in the shower like a scab and heal up normally.

I've done this yesterday on a mole on my leg and then this morning on one on my stomach.  I'll be quite amazed if this works.  It's just a shame I can't do it on the moles on my face!  I don't want to go out in public with biro shapes all over me!

So yeah - has anyone else tried this with any success?

Cheers, Wells

Hi wells,

i have a small mole on my right forearm that i tried Rb's mole removel tech on and it worked after a while. It took around a month of drawing and redrawing keeping it in shape when a black hair like streak formed across the lower part of the mole. I thought it was some ink or maybe a hair that grew in funny at first but it didnt wash off and when trying to pluck it like a hair it started to flake off. the part of the mole that was below the black line flaked off it was about 1/3 of the mole. I didnt continue with the tech because im a wuss and was freaked out by it :oops:

Hello Everyone
  I have seen this work and experimented upon myself. Unfortunately the warts did not come off. The moles did just peel off. I guess the warts were not caused by spirit attachements.
  Now the use of the word Biro really threw me and I will have to reread the book again in that section. I just used a circle with a cross in the middle.
  Nita

Yea that word biro confused me, i didnt remember seeing that it in psychic self defence. i used a circle with a cross in the middle as well.

Sorry - ball point pen is what I mean by "biro".  Just the standard type everyone uses.  Invented by a guy named "Biro", hence the name!

Regards

Wells

OK just a quick update.  Of the three moles I've been treating 2 have responded.  One just peeled off almost completely in the shower this morning.

The large mole/birthmark on my leg, I've just scraped off a layer of that - I can see it is changing, healing.

The one oon my stomach hasn't responded yet, but this is the one where the ink rubs off all the time.

All in all a good result!  I recommend the technique to anyone reading!

Wells

Just as a heads up, warts are viruses. If they are neg related, I would doubt they are attachments.

Hey,
   I always have been the slightly skeptical scientist type, but has anyone done a control test, like just coloring on some moles, and then doing the biro on others? What kind of ink are you guys using? Anything special? My family is genetically predispositioned for moles to turn into skin cancer, so if there is another way to easily remove all of them without doctors taking the little cookie cutter painful razor thing to my back that would be awesome.

Not sure about scientific tests, but try it out yourself!  Just a standard ball point pen will do.  It's taken about three weeks for mine to start coming off.  Remember you want to draw a circle about twice the size of the mole, with a cross in it, intersectng on the mole itself.

It really does work, I've been amazed.  I wanted to take some pictures, but alas, I had to sell my camera on ebay for some extra money!

Actually, just remembered this.  I'll quote RB:

QuoteThe effects of the ink diagram method on skin cancer, or on any type of potential skin cancer, are unknown.  I do not advise using ink diagrams to treat skin cancers.

So you can try it if you like, but it may be safer just to go the way of the blade...

Wells

You really need to get Robert Bruce's book, "Practical Psychic Self Defense." I've read it, and although I am more interested in Robert's abduction experiences, his writings and ideas are fascinating. Bruce does something I have never seen before, he takes a scientist view of things and deliberately tests them.

Inks and their varieties are some of the things he has tested and it is listed in his book on page 206:

The Effect of Ink and Color: I have experimented with different types of inks, dyes, and colors, but blue ballpoint ink seems to work best. Black and violet also work fairly well, but red ink seems less effective. It's possible the ink itself is causing these strange effects, as the type of ink used is important. I have tried dye pens and applying blotches of ink over skin blemishes with poor results. However, it seems more likely that the combination of ink, color, and geometric design all contribute to the result.

Here are some rough notes (with links) I have on my research of warts as possible spirit attachments. I sent these to Robert at one point and he asked me to post them here, send him the link, and he would add it to a Newsletter. Things happened (total PC crash for one) and I forgot. The first link is especialy interesting. As is the idea that garlic works on attachment points due to its sulphur content. I'll eventually try to write an article about this.

http://gbronline.com/rr22/Plantar-Foot-Wart.html
USING SULFUR!

"First, I started by using SAL3™ soap, which contains 3% salicylic acid and 10% sulfur as its active ingredients. I wash it, let it soak in the suds for a few minutes, then rinse and wash again."

http://sal3.com/



http://familydoctor.org/209.xml

"It is not known why some warts disappear and others don't. "

http://dermatology.about.com/cs/warts/a/warts.htm
"The human papillomavirus is not killed by cryotherapy and is released into the surrounding tissue allowing the immune system to kill it. A blister typically forms on the site treated, crusts over, and falls off."


http://www.medinfo.co.uk/conditions/warts.htm

me-note: What about using wart treatments on neg attachment areas.
Inside of bananas? (if garlic works, why not?)

(me: interestingly, when i saw a doctor years ago about a really bad verruca (and was just about to go live in coastal Spain) the doctor said to swim/walk in the sea a lot and the salt water (Holy Water is salt water) would eventually get rid of it naturally.

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http://tinyurl.com/ypv3y
"For £2.80 you can buy a small bottle of Kabbalah water, personally blessed by the movement's leader, Phillip Berg, and said to possess "centuries of wisdom in every drop".

The spring water has supposedly been transformed by a process called Quantum Resonance Technology, making it a "spiritual tool". Madonna claims the water cured husband Guy's verrucas."

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/ask_doctor/verruccas_pools.shtml


http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/202516.html
Salicylic Acid


http://www.moondragon.org/obgyn/disorders/std/genitalwarts.html
"Crush a garlic clove and apply the garlic directly on the wart. Cover it with a bandage and leave it in place for 24 hours. Blisters should then form and the wart should fall off in about a week. Do not use this remedy for internally located (vagina or cervix) warts. "


http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsSupplements/Sulfurcs.html
"Sulfur-containing mud baths (often called balneotherapy) help in the treatment of skin disorders and arthritis. Balneotherapy is one of the oldest forms of therapy for pain relief for people with arthritis. The term "balneo" comes from the Latin word for bath (balneum) and refers to bathing in thermal or mineral waters. "

...Uses

Skin Disorders
Sulfur baths, and other forms of sulfur applied directly to the skin, seem to benefit psoriasis, eczema, dandruff, folliculitis (infected hair follicles), warts, and pityriasis versicolor (a chronic skin disorder characterized by patches of skin that differ in color from the usual skin tone). "


http://vanderbiltowc.wellsource.com/dh/content.asp?ID=638
"Crush a garlic clove and apply to the wart. Leave covered for 24 hours. Blisters should form, and the wart should fall off in a week or so."

"Eat more foods with sulfur-containing amino acids: asparagus, citrus fruits, garlic, onions, and eggs."

http://www.health911.com/remedies/rem_wart.htm
"Lemon juice Apply lemon juice to the wart and rub in gently. Repeat two or three times daily.

Onion Cut an onion in half, scoop out the middle and put in about 1/2 teaspoon of salt. After several hours the salt will draw the onion's juices which can be applied to the wart several times a day.

Tape Cover the wart with any kind of medical or first aid tape or a bandaid and leave on around the clock for three weeks, removing only to change the tape. This may cure the wart.

A recent study (2002) done at the Madigan Army Medical Center in Tacoma, WA found that placing a piece of duct tape the exact size of the wart over it was successful in removing the wart 85% of the time and was better than the standard method of freezing the wart (60% successful). So give it a try: place the tape on the wart for six days, then remove it; soak the wart in water; gently scrape the wart with an emery board or pumice stone; leave the tape off for a night; repeat for up to a month."

Regarding Sulphur. I dissolve Sulphur into a bath and bathe in it trying to emulate the old Roman Baths or those Sulphur springs I have seen in Temples in India. I definitely get some relief from this of negative energy.

He says blue ink is usually the most effective, followed by black. Does anyone know if it'd be ok to draw the diagram in blue, and then draw over it again in black? Would this increase the chances of it working, or maybe make it less effective by somehow messing up the energies at work? Or just not make any difference?

So there's no scientific explanation for this if it does work? Maybe the ink seeps into the mole from constantly drawing crosses on it.

Why an X/Cross?

I've been trying it for almost a month and no change yet... except for the blue stains on my clothes!   :wink:  :?

This sounds kind of stupid... draw in blue pen on your mole and it will go away?

Shouldn't something involving energy work be done? At least then it's something that takes skill...

Well this worked for me, a large mole/birth mark came off in a few weeks.  It's still slightly discoloured now, but it's still healing.

As for smaller moles/freckles I've had almost 100% sucess with the ones I've tried it on.

I think you should use a rapid brushing/awareness action on the areas, you can feel the exact location of the cross when you do it.

So yeah, it's worked for me very well.

I've had the circled cross on an eraser-sized, round flat mole on my foot for the better part of a month, and no change so far.  However, I'm always wearing boots and/or socks (partly because I don't really want to explain to anyone "what the hell that thing is"), so that might have something to do with it, I dunno.

Interesting bit I picked up though... right now I'm in a Native American Philosophy class, and we're doing presentations.  One woman passed out a little handout with some mystical symbols and captions as part of hers... one of them was the circled cross.  For just the horizontal line, it says: "it represents the power of the formative/receptive force, the feminine principle, without breadth or depth and the source of form as expressed in the sacred law, "everything is born of woman."  

"An upright line symbolized the power of the active/conceptual force, the masculine principle, which gives dimensions and thus a place in space."

The fusion of these two symbols provides a third -- the encircled cross.  The upright, equal-armed cross was an ancient symbol of manifestation in time and space.  When contained within a circle it was a symbol of the limited and changing reality of physical things embraced within the infinity and everlastingness of spirit.  The cross within a circle could aslso represent four expressions of cosmic power flowing to and from their source, or four qualities of elemental unformed substance, and much, much more.  The encircled cross symbolizes energy in balance and equilibrium.  A symbol also of the earth.

So yeah, I thought that was interesting and at least partly relevant.

Is there a link to a page where Bruce actually describes doing this? Hopefully it mentions prerequisite exercises, necessary energy levels and things.

I wonder if similar markings could help improve health in other ways... or things other than health... like Naruto!

RB describes this technique in Practical Psychic Self-Defence.

As for not getting any results Palehorse, RB says it can take anything from a few days to many months for results.  I guess it depends now on how long you can be bothered to keep doing it!

When I used the technique on my leg I scratched the mole occasionally in the shower which seemed to speed things along, it caused a reaction.  At first there was just a thin layer of skin that came off, almost un-noticable, but then a few days later the whole thing started getting a reaction and eventually came off.

Okay... but wouldn't getting rid of moles and skin blemishes be more of a healing than self defense thing? Self defense to me would be shielding and stuff against other psychics (or spirits if you believe they exist).

It may be a simple healing thing, but certain blemishes are apparently related to neg attachments.

Wow, I must have inherited a lot of negative attachments from my family then.

I scratched off a mole on my chin and now there's a cyst there.

Also I have a mole on my side, and once time when I was swimming in a lake a fish bit me there and drew blood.

Quote from: Tyciolonce time when I was swimming in a lake a fish bit me there and drew blood.

I'm certainly no expert on these matters, but having read PPSD water is mentioned a lot of times as being able to remove a neg attachment, temporarily at least.  Maybe swimming in the lake removed some neg attachment which was related to that mole, and caused it to bleed?  Are you sure a fish bit it, or did you just assume this?  It just sounds a bit strange to me!

Quote from: NitaI have seen this work and experimented upon myself. Unfortunately the warts did not come off. The moles did just peel off. I guess the warts were not caused by spirit attachements.

Hi Nita, also try clear nail polish. Keep them covered with it at all times (replace after a shower/bath) and eventually it will starve them of oxygen.

Quote from: Wells

Quote from: Tyciolonce time when I was swimming in a lake a fish bit me there and drew blood.

I'm certainly no expert on these matters, but having read PPSD water is mentioned a lot of times as being able to remove a neg attachment, temporarily at least.  Maybe swimming in the lake removed some neg attachment which was related to that mole, and caused it to bleed?  Are you sure a fish bit it, or did you just assume this?  It just sounds a bit strange to me!

Yes, quite sure. You see, there was one of those floating docks in the middle of the lake, and I was hiding under it, looking at the people sitting on top. Suddenly I felt a pinch in my side. I thought to myself ~Uh oh, one of those kids must have saw me and came down and pinched me...~

So, I pushed off of the dock and looked down in the water (I must have had goggles on). When I went down into the water, I was face to face with a huge fish, and it puckered its mouth at me. It may even have had sharp teeth, I can't remember. I KNEW it was him. I swam back hard to shore, and when I came back, my mom pointed out to me that my mole was bleeding. The thing must have thought it was algae.

I think the thing with the Biro technique being a Self Defense measure is the concept of why moles and such form (according to Bruce). Moles and Freckles appear at a point of attachment by a neg entity. Said neg comes into your personal space, point of contact occurs, and a mole/freckle/cyst forms. So the mole/freckly/cyst is indicative of a neg energy attachment point. Drawing on it with the Biro technique breaks the neg energy attachment and forces the neg off.

I think the first page of this thread I quoted from Robert's book. He said he tried just applying the ink to make sure it wasn't the ink causing the marks to disappear, but they didn't. Nothing happened unless it was a combination of ink type and geometric formation (cross, pentagram, jewish star). Robert also noticed closed shapes (eg, a cross with a circle encompassing it) totally got rid of the mark, whereas just drawing a cross, etc caused fading whereever the cross lines were drawn on the mark.

I have a skin condition known as displastic nevi. It basically means I have a lot of moles, and I am supposed to see a dermatologist. I think I'll give this a shot. How many times are you supposed to do it? Also, most of my moles are on my back, which are not easy to draw on myself. I'll see if someone else can help me out with it. I've had two removed with a scalpel, one of them exceptionally large, maybe an inch or two in diameter, and the other one very dark, almost black. neither was malignant, but they left scars on my back.  Would scars be affected by this also? I think I'll try it out and find out. I will let you know the results.

I see... so what does this mean, that families that genetically have a lot of moles or freckles have inherited negative attachments?

What about people who only get freckles in the sun? Invisible negative attachments?

Honestly freckles and moles are occasionally cute on people... just not me.

Tyciol, there is actually a lot of domestic violence and negative activity on my father's side of the family. My father himself is someone I do not wish to continue having a relationship with. I'm glad my mother divorced him when I was very young. Someone on that side of the family actually murdered his own wife and kids, then stuffed their dead bodies in a locker somewhere on Cape Cod. If that isn't a sign of neg infestation, I don't know what is. I'm glad I was not raised by that side of my family. They are some of the worst people I know.

I might also mention that a lot of people on my father's side of the family do have moles, while it is not so prevalent on my mother's side.

But whether you're right or wrong, it can't hurt to draw little circles on your body with crosses in them.

I suppose it couldn't, it's not like I have anyone to weird out from seeing, it's a worthy (although sounding stupid to me at the moment... ) experiment.

So, where can I find the specific guidelines on what shapes to draw? If this works, I'll buy Astral Dynamics :) Dang, see now the thought of having no moles has quelled my anger with hope, but it's probably false...

Tyciol - there's a basic description of the technique in this thread http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1626&start=0

but for more detailed info I recommend reading chapter 13 of RB's 'Practical Psychic Self-Defense'.

Thank you JULIA! :)

Quote from: TyciolI see... so what does this mean, that families that genetically have a lot of moles or freckles have inherited negative attachments?

What about people who only get freckles in the sun? Invisible negative attachments?

Honestly freckles and moles are occasionally cute on people... just not me.

I don't think anybody is saying that *all* moles/freckles are neg related.  Obviously if you go out in the sun for 3 weeks solid you're bound to get some sort of skin blemish as a result (I would have thought anyway).

I know people/families who are naturally freckled, and I think these are quite normal/natural.

So then how do you identify a neg-related blemish?  Well, I don't know!  Guess you've just got to try the technique out and see if anything happens!

Wells

I came across a site about light pens via Stuart Wilde's web page. The pens are supposed to be set to a specific frequency of light, which is supposed to heal the body (both physical and astral). The pens are rather expensive, and I don't think anyone actually needs them to do stuff like remove moles. I wonder how qi gong or acupuncture would work against blemishes. I might have to try it out. In fact, maybe I'll try a two-week experiment with it. I'll let you guys know. Of course, I won't try it until after the Biro technique, as acupuncture tends to be expensive.

I have been trying it with 2 moles since Thursday - one with blue ink & the other with black (I was surprised at how difficult it can be to draw the diagrams accurately!) One is very small, and looks more like a freckle, but it is raised slightly, so I assumes it's a mole. I am using the black ink on that one, & it has faded from dark brown to a medium brown colour. There is no change in the other one as yet, but it's only been 4 days. This is quite exciting!

Cool, keep us updated. Can you take pictures?