Does a Psychic Defense Shelter/Organization Exist?

Risu no Kairu · October 25, 2003, 09:57:33

Well, I know there are people out there who try to help others, and I'm sure a few of those people have gotten together to form little groups, but I don't think I've ever heard of a big organization out to do that.

You could form your own, though.

Dark Knight · October 26, 2003, 10:08:14

What's going on, hon?

I know this is a loaded question...is your family aware of what is happening, in denial (can you talk to them openly about this).

Unfortunately, no, there is no official large organization that I am aware of...wish there was. But I would advise you to read the threads Xelios has put down on avoiding Metaphysical Churches, common psychics, etc.

Sunnyblue (you can get his email in his profile page). Has helped a few people.

Do you have ANY money, I mean, enough to buy Robert Bruce's book (if your family isn't open and is in denial, I can see where this would be a problem).

Enderwiggin, are you here?

Keep in touch, hon, let us know you're OK.

HypnoHelp · October 26, 2003, 17:35:51

Hello, Dark Knight. No, I believe my family and friends are both in denial. It seems as if 99.9% of people can read my mind. Anywhere that I may go, people constantly inject certain thoughts/deep secrets I have of myself. It's like whoa, I'm not even thinking of such a thought, but all of a sudden I am forced to be reminded of it. Psychic implants and surgery maybe. Maybe it is a ghost who follows me around? Or maybe these psychics use remote viewing to know when and what thought to implant as I walk around? And no I have absolutely no money. My family is nowhere near open, we barely talk. Maybe a 5 minutes of conversing Altogether per DAY. I need help, I am tired of being mind raped. Maybe they are aliens, hell I am not sure. But I am sure that it is in this categorey. Please help. I want help without the use of visualization or meditation because it goes against my religion. Thank you for the insight.

Dark Knight · October 26, 2003, 19:36:25

Ouch, you do have a problem.

Hon, I hate to say it, but visualizing/meditating maybe the only way out. I know this can feel very devastating when you're forced to change your concepts of religous beliefs...totally flies against the concept of free will most people embrace. If it's any of my business, and it might not be, what religon do you belong to? Christian, Muslim, I'm guessing not Jewish (i'm only asking out of respect, so I know how to be sensitive to you).

If I could just ask people on this forum to be patient. People's religous beliefs are important and when you're forced to change instead of allowed to do so under normal conditions of growth, it can be very frightening and devastating.

Is it only the mind probe stuff, or have you seen anything? Seen any greys (the ones with the large black eyes)? Jet black leathery skinned looking creeps? Dark robed creeps?

Hon, I know it's hard but try not to panic as best you can. One more thing, I know this will sound strange, but how do your emotions feel. Do they pass the way they should normally do, or do you find yourself feeling stuck in a feeling that won't leave, despite all your attempts to allow yourself to feel something else?

HypnoHelp · October 26, 2003, 19:54:55

Let's see, my emotioms are that I am constantly combating, I don't deserve this, how could this be, why won't they leave me alone,'' you are suppose to be my Family!,and anger....yeah lots and lots of anger. They are constantly manipulating my thoughts to their liking, but I still have a sense of what my usual emotions are.

I am still alive.

CRIMINALMIND63 · October 26, 2003, 20:40:54

Your having a psychic attack! No doubt.

Anonymous · October 26, 2003, 23:14:47

This site and sites like it are about as close as one can get to a "shelter." I suggested that we all band together and fight back awhile ago, most people seemed to agree with me. So why not investigate and see who or what is behind this? It may be a neg taking advantage of your depression. Remote viewing is not as hard as one might think. I did it a lot before I realized what it was. Go into a meditative state or a light trance and picture in your mind the events that have taken place. They may take on visual metaphors such as a dark being beating up a sacred statue or something, but you'll be able to tell what is what. It's pretty obvious. My suggestion to you is to find out who your attackers are, just how powerful they are, how they attack you, how they think, and how well they know you.

Trust me, when it comes to not being able to talk to your family, ESPECIALLY about stuff like this, I can definitely relate. My own stepdad would say I was a nutcase if I told him black magic or even ghosts exist. Heck, I can't even talk to the guy about religion. He doesn't have deep conversations with anyone. In some ways, he is very immature. I'm not trying to put the guy down, but he needs to learn. I'm not being dragged down with him if some black magician decides to attack him. I'm going to learn magic and fight back. My kung fu instructor told me of a kind of qi gong that if you practice long enough, you merely have to point at people to kill them (I intend to learn eventually, but not to kill people. I want to learn to heal them). Pointing at them sends a tremendously large amount of compact energy at them. What happens is that it puts a hole in their energy field and messes their energy up REALLY bad. It's like having a magic gun on you all the time. This stuff is very real, no matter what your parents might think. My stepdad doesn't believe any of this, but I've experienced qi energy for myself and I know it exists.

If you don't talk to your family, then I wouldn't start with the subject of magic and psychic powers. Not all families get along and sometimes it can be due to the way your parents interact with each other. That is the case in my own family. My stepdad is very stubborn and has to have his way all the time. Does this sound familiar? He wants to do things with the family but only the things he wants to do. My mother cannot talk to him or go to him about certain things because he sometimes is just downright childish. He certainly means well, from my observations, but has no knowledge of his own spirit. I have gone to him with less than five problems in my whole life, simply because I know he won't be able to help me.

If I were you, I'd seek your outputs in friendships. You don't need that many friends, just a few really good ones.

There is one other thing. You are being attacked because something found a weakness in you. That's what these bad guys look for, is weakness. They want to make that weakness/opening bigger so they can fit more evil into you. You must find out what that weakness is, and you must build back that area of yourself so that it is no longer weak. Make it a point to do so, make it a semi-long-term goal. If you don't want to meditate, then I suggest this. Read lots of books, stimulate your mind, learn about others' situations. But do not create an illusion for yourself to live in! You won't even have to use psychic shielding or anything like that. It will happen automatically. Your religious beliefs are up to you, but do not close your mind to what else may be out there. No one has ever come back from the dead to tell us what is on the other side. My friend is a Wiccan and I know she is having psychic attacks from negative beings. I know because of the way she's acting and she refuses to deal with it. She is very closed-minded when it comes to religion. She hates it when I even so much as mention Christianity (she had a bad experience). Anyway, that's my input. I hope I haven't crossed any lines. Just trying to help.

"I live by the adage, 'know thy enemy.' That is why I have so painstakingly analyzed who I am."

Dark Knight · October 27, 2003, 02:50:13

OK, If you can still discern that your emotions are YOURS and not something someone else is putting in you (like what's being done to me...they can put emotions in you same as thoughts). The fact that you know the thoughts you're having aren't put there by choice is another good sign. You got here at an earlier stage than some of us.

The feelings you are feeling are justified...and don't take any of them for granted, I haven't been able to do what you can for 6 years now. You're still alive...yeah, I know what that means (both precious and sarcastic at the same time).

Enderwiggin, I'm not much help, more like an extra broken leg, but I agree we should start banding together, maybe give what each of us can, however great or small. And Enderwiggin is right, Hypnohelp. Your religious beliefs are your strongest points. That's why I'm urging respect here.

Tell me why you sid you suspected the alien angle...it's important.

What have you seen? Also very important...are the thoughts just your private moments being put on display? I know it's hard to try to explain the obvious when no one in their right mind sits down to give it considerable thought, that's what happened to a lot of us. Take your time, stay calm, and do the best you can.

Anonymous · October 27, 2003, 20:38:15

Hypno-

Just one thing to bear in mind. Don't take crap from any black magician or entity, ever. It doesn't matter what your religious beliefs are, as long as you're not taking crap from them.

ardane · October 28, 2003, 09:18:40

HypnoHelp -

There are indeed such organizations. It was considered, at least once upon a time, that there was an Occult Police that could be contacted to report occult abuses. I can not vouch for this but if you read Dion Fortune's Psychic Self Defense book, she gives details.

There are also hermetic fraternities often called "Hunting Lodges" who hunt down dark magicians that abuse their occult powers. I can vouch that such Lodges exist. Also, most any reputable hermitic society, or Western Mystery Tradition organization, is capable of taking care of such matters as a matter of course.

There are also astral warriors and astral warriorship groups. There are the Tolemac Warriors (no relation to the computer game), the Soth House of the Astral Alliance, the Righteous Warrior Temple, and Abode of the Lion, to name a few.

There are also lone astral warriors called High Plains Drifters (because of their appearance) who undertake this work, but there is very little known about them as yet.

And a final thing, there is no reason you folks here at Astral Pulse can not band together to create a group of your own to do such work.

If you need further information about such matters or such groups, email me at ardane@angelfire.com.

Best regards,

Ardane

arakara · October 30, 2003, 16:52:55

Yes there is an organization that specifically addresses psychic shields among other things. It is http://www.psipog.net/welcome.php

Remember, don't sweat the small stuff, cause Its All In Your Mind.

CRIMINALMIND63 · October 30, 2003, 22:30:26

I don't want to start an arguement here, but when physical things start happening it's not all in your mind. Attacks involve more then just mind games.

arakara · October 30, 2003, 22:55:16

Alright, try to get out of those "physical things" without using your mind, and post your results. I would really like to know them.

We are 4dimensional beings dreaming of a 3dimensional existence; thats why Its All In Your Mind.

boydster · October 30, 2003, 23:22:06

HypnoHelp,

When I was a young teen I was pretty much a sitting duck for this type of attack. I can tell you what I gradually learned to do to protect myself.

It became apparent to me that if I allowed myself to experience negative emotions because I was angry or depressed or something like that, it caused the edges of my aura to be more vulnerable to the insertion of thoughts of a like vibration. In other words, an attacking force was able to penetrate my perimeter by matching my frequency; kind of like using the right key for a lock.

What I've taught myself to do is to consciously vibrate my whole emotional body like a tuning fork to the frequencies of love and gratitude and happiness, stuff like that. The bad guys have a really hard time penetrating this.

The question is of course; how do you just "turn on" happiness if you actually feel like crap? I play mind games with myself. The minute I feel burdened or depressed (or whatever) about some event or encounter with someone, I immediately imagine a much worse outcome which could have happened, and I turn my eyes up and thank God that THAT didn't happen. I mean I actually say it out loud some times. I make it a kind of celebration!! You'd be amazed at how powerful this is--it turns the tide and ties you into the positive force which is your own personal relationship with God, whatever that may be.

If you do this over and over during the day (yes repetition is often necessary) you can build up a tidal wave of momentum which is pretty much impossible for the bad guys to work with.

Just remember to watch your thoughts on and off throughout the day. If you find yourself revolving a negative emotion over and over, you've got to seize control and jump out of the loop. Another trick I use when I want to break the spell, is to just pick the closest available person to me and do whatever I can to make them happy. Engage them and complement them, or give them solace for a hurt they may have, just do something which causes you to emit a positive stream of energy from you to something else--this can also break an attack.

I hope this helps. I can't imagine that these things are counter to any Christian teachings---all I've talked about is:

Keeping a positive, grateful attitude
And putting out a caring loving attitude to others

The funny thing is that there are really powerful spiritual forces at work within this type of behavior.

Good luck. You'll win if you never stop.[

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Mick · October 31, 2003, 05:31:07

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Originally posted by boydster

It became apparent to me that if I allowed myself to experience negative emotions because I was angry or depressed or something like that, it caused the edges of my aura to be more vulnerable to the insertion of thoughts of a like vibration. In other words, an attacking force was able to penetrate my perimeter by matching my frequency; kind of like using the right key for a lock.

I think that this is an important aspect of how attachments can be made. We use a term entity exageration where minor personal negative states are exagerated and then exploited. This can be evident when standing close to people who have suffered this, the vibrations involved can be very clinging. I have a friend who runs UFO style abductee support groups and this type of vibration is als overy evident with some of the people who attend these sessions.

As you say keeping upbeat in these situations is a challenge but worth the effort if doable.

arakara · October 31, 2003, 09:12:07

Here is hint # 2, hypno. You probably won't have your question answered by anyone else, so I would take it.

http://www.psipog.net/articles.php?refresh=378295

boydster · October 31, 2003, 23:12:42

quote:
Originally posted by Mick

I think that this is an important aspect of how attachments can be made. We use a term entity exageration where minor personal negative states are exagerated and then exploited.

Yes!! That's a good way to describe what I'm talking about. In my mid teens to early 20's I gradually noticed patterns in myself and others of thoughtforms and ideas/phrases "revolving" around in the aura at times. It's like a recording being played over and over and it's almost alway negative or at least not constructive. And to the extent that a person agrees with or puts their attention on the thoughtform or phrase, they invest more and more energy into it and give it power and momentum.

Soon it paints his whole aura and the surrounding area with a cesspool of slowly revolving anger or depression, etc. At that point, an astral entity has only to vibrate its body in resonance with this cloud of negativity to penetrate through a persons otherwise strong natural barriers. After that they (worms, etc.) seem to be able to influence a person even more into long bouts of negativity which leaves the door open to come and go through.

To be honest, I did more for myself than just learn to discipline my attention and my emotions. I also applied light energy to fill holes in my aura and I learned to fight back when I detected an attempted intrusion. But the acquired ability to keep a strong, constant emanation of good will and gratitude was a tipping point for me. I found myself experiencing longer and longer periods of happiness and high energy because I was becoming more and more impervious to spells and attacks. After living this way for 20 years now I feel that this is some of my most important and powerful "Kung Fu".[

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Anonymous · November 01, 2003, 01:03:18

That, my friend, is exactly what determines those who get attacked from those who do not (at least for the most part).

There are very powerful, very evil magicians and other members of the occult out there. But the Light has stronger power and wiser people on its side. In the end, it is those evil people who will suffer. Not us. Once they launch their assault on us, it won't last very long. Those of the Light have been training their whole lives. Those of the Dark have fallen for an illusion of reality. They may seem powerful and may impose very believable illusions upon people, but they will never be anything more than illusions. Remember that.

CRIMINALMIND63 · November 01, 2003, 07:08:49

I find this very odd the other day I seen my aura around my head and it's a bright white light. Either it's due to my attacker's aura surrounding me and the white light attacks or for the mind perspective I have and that is why I'm being attacked.
I seen my attacker's aura and it is a light color. How can someone with a light aura have so much negative thoughts? I question what the white light really is. But then I guess he can also take out what is in his aura and cleans it.

Mick · November 01, 2003, 08:02:33

quote:
Originally posted by boydster

Soon it paints his whole aura and the surrounding area with a cesspool of slowly revolving anger or depression, etc. At that point, an astral entity has only to vibrate its body in resonance with this cloud of negativity to penetrate through a persons otherwise strong natural barriers. After that they (worms, etc.) seem to be able to influence a person even more into long bouts of negativity which leaves the door open to come and go through.

very succinct

Slight aside, I have friends who run UFO type abductee support groups and when I have visited the 'long bouts of negativity' is a very common state for the people using the service.

quote:

To be honest, I did more for myself than just learn to discipline my attention and my emotions. I also applied light energy to fill holes in my aura and I learned to fight back when I detected an attempted intrusion. But the acquired ability to keep a strong, constant emanation of good will and gratitude was a tipping point for me. I found myself experiencing longer and longer periods of happiness and high energy because I was becoming more and more impervious to spells and attacks. After living this way for 20 years now I feel that this is some of my most important and powerful "Kung Fu".[]

Light energy with a little matter to give it kick

Also found that pushing back opens up the space and sometimes we think that part of the process applied by the negs is simply a containment method to suppress those that might simply by their general nature interfere with their machinations. A possible raison d'etre for why some are bothered?

quote:
Originally posted by criminal mind63
I seen my attacker's aura and it is a light color. How can someone with a light aura have so much negative thoughts? I question what the white light really is. But then I guess he can also take out what is in his aura and cleans it.

When we first started looking about we were very surprised to see bright white beams above the locations from which in every other sense was the location of negs attacking us. Orthodoxy suggested that these must be good guys and that threw us for a while. Now we think such an emanation simply indicates sustained psychic activity, that is, they are using certain abilities and colour is irrespective of motive.
Much of this light/white and dark/black thing in orthodoxy is I think somewhat cultural in designation and a revisit to test it does no harm. If it quacks it's a duck as the expression goes

Nita · November 01, 2003, 10:45:21

Hello Everyone
This is the third time I have tried to post this message. I do help people without money. I have a website www.astralhealer.com I live off of my donations so my friends put in paypal on the site. It makes it so anyone who wants to donate so I can continue my work on people without the cash can do so.
I have a lot of information on it about attacks and methods to help yourself. I also suggest going to the library to check out Robert Bruces book Psychic Self-defense. You can read it with out having to buy it and if they do not have the book the librarian can order it.
I have found that people who know themselves and can love and forgive themselves have fewer problems with negative energies and entities. The real problem is did you get the entities before you got depressed or afterwards.
It is easy to cure someone who got the entities before they became trapped into negative cycles. The people who were in the negative cycles in the first place have to really work upon themselves to keep away problems. I suggest the loving-kindness or Metta meditation from www.buddhanet.net they have an MP3 guided meditation version. You can find guided meditations for other religions on Beliefnet. It is crucial for the person to be able to love and forgive themselves. You then can accept yourself and all of your energies and know what is not your energies.
Nita

boydster · November 01, 2003, 13:14:10

HypnoHelp, are you still with the thread? We digressed a little, but everyone here hopes you find freedom and happiness. There have been a whole bunch of suggestions addressing your plea for help. Have you tried any of them?

You may want to review the comments here again and see what feels right. Then start investing some time and energy executing on your plan. It takes time and repetitions to make a fundamental change in your life and circumstances. The effort is worth it though.

Decide who and what you want to be. Make a plan to get there and then stick to it. Write down your goals, I think it helps.

Serena · November 03, 2003, 20:28:31

Hey, In response to Boydster, I'm really glad that positive thought and emotion worked for you, but what do you do when the entity/entities get ticked and attack even more? I'm very big on the feelings of love, and giving, friendship, random acts of kindness. I've always believed there should be more, and it is the only way this world will ever get better. But when I experience happiness, when I sit out at a lake and really feel intune with nature, and god and goodness, when I feel any of these things, that's when I get attacked even more, really bad things will happen to me. It doesn't change my believe, or stop me from wanting to feel these things, but it makes my life a living hell, and everything good will be taken away and destroyed. How do you fight that?

xander · November 03, 2003, 20:36:29

quote:
Originally posted by Serena

I'm very big on the feelings of love, and giving, friendship, random acts of kindness. I've always believed there should be more, and it is the only way this world will ever get better. when I feel any of these things, that's when I get attacked even more, really bad things will happen to me. How do you fight that?

Negs see higher emotions as weakness and cannot be reasoned with. At times Negs (much like some animals) only understand violence. Thus a very major Arse kicking is to be administered to them. Be not ashamed of your rage but only of your unwillingness to act.

Xander

HypnoHelp · October 25, 2003, 09:11:50

Hello, everyone. My question is does Psychic Defense Shelters/Police/Organizations exist? Because 'it' is happening to me continually, and most disgustingly through family members also. I am young and have no money. Please help, with any info about these shelters and organizations. Thanks.

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