Shield? The only shielding techniques I know of or how to do are Psionic/Qi-Gong related. It took me close to a year to learn it. It involves manipulating the energy in and around your body to form a shell around you and your aura. I picked up the technique from a psionics site. The site has changed much over the years, but to my surprise the techs are still here.
http://www.psipog.net/articles.php?cat=202
Thanks, I'll check out the link.
Another question:
I checked out psipog for articles on remote viewing and it had no articles.
The book is called "The Seventh Sense" by Lyn Buchanan. He was one of the Remote Viewers for the US army's Project Sun Streak. Sargent Buchanan speaks about a form of Controlled Remote Viewing (CRV) called Controlled Remote Influencing (CRI). CRI was a technique he was developing on the side...as a defensive measure not a malicious one. It sounds similar to what I was describing in my first post, gaining access to someone and influencing their thoughts, which sounds eerily like what Robert Bruce was describing in his book.
Buchanan doesn't go into a whole lot of detail, all he does is mention he was developing it and was approached by certain upper ups in the government to use it to kill certain "undesirables", which apparently can be done.
So, in adendum to my question in the first post, has anyone out there heard or know anything about the History of CRI?
http://www.paranormalnews.com/article.asp?articleId=281
I found this on the internet.
I think I'm going to start composing a letter to Sargent Buchanan.
Special Dragon
Thank you very much for the website. You have just given me a piece of information I need to explain what has been given to me before. With this and a little more info I believe that I shall find someone to write a book with. Not just about the experiences I have to explain attacks but also ways to prevent attacks.
I got a bit of information from someone that told me the information posted isn't what it really is. Somehow I had already know this. Lately I have been looking back into my childhood and have realized my abilty and knowledge that has appeared to come from nowhere. But I can say that it has come from no where because of the experiences I had. I have bben given information in a form. It's has appeared to be knowledge of chakras and a shielding defense. This can be done physically so you can protect people with weak mind and can't use the visualization required. I have more research to do.
There need s to be more energy shielding techniques then what most books are stating. You may use the techniques in the books but most of it only has an effect on you. You become more positive but also it causes the attacker to become more negative. What is needed is a real shield for them not to enter your energy field. I believe I have been giving that information. I need an experienced energy worker to give me some the rest of the information I need. I believe I have been given information to close off your aura. I have done some exercises as a kid which I believe gives you the abilty to close the aura.
I think our unconscious thoughts are constantly connected to other people a lot more than you think they are, but the only time we notice them is when they become conscious.
Beavis,
You mean like what, when the conscious and unconscious mind are actaully communicating with one another on a noticable surface?
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Originally posted by CRIMINALMIND63
Special Dragon
Thank you very much for the website. You have just given me a piece of information I need to explain what has been given to me before. With this and a little more info I believe that I shall find someone to write a book with. Not just about the experiences I have to explain attacks but also ways to prevent attacks.
I got a bit of information from someone that told me the information posted isn't what it really is. Somehow I had already know this. Lately I have been looking back into my childhood and have realized my abilty and knowledge that has appeared to come from nowhere. But I can say that it has come from no where because of the experiences I had. I have bben given information in a form. It's has appeared to be knowledge of chakras and a shielding defense. This can be done physically so you can protect people with weak mind and can't use the visualization required. I have more research to do.
There need s to be more energy shielding techniques then what most books are stating. You may use the techniques in the books but most of it only has an effect on you. You become more positive but also it causes the attacker to become more negative. What is needed is a real shield for them not to enter your energy field. I believe I have been giving that information. I need an experienced energy worker to give me some the rest of the information I need. I believe I have been given information to close off your aura. I have done some exercises as a kid which I believe gives you the abilty to close the aura.
The Shielding tech I know closes you off from negative influences of ALL types. If you wish I can write off a decent way to learn this technique, but keep in mind there are certain requirements you have to meet first that psipog doesn't explain (or at least didn't when I looked at it last...) the main two are: experience, a certain amount of internal energy to manipulate the energy outside the body.
Dark Knight: you would not be able to learn the shield in your condition without practicing intense Qigong first. Even then Mr. Jackass would still be able to drain the required energy you gained though that practice Via the technique he is using. And if you are looking for information on remote viewing on psipog believe it is under "psychic vampireism" and "Telekenitic Control." (or something along that line)As far as the controled remote viewing program goes I have only heard it was possible to kill with it, to see and hear through the person controled, and that research was being done to see if you can break down a person's will and make them into something else (which is what I believe they are trying to do to you.)
BTW: need to catch you on MSN soon. To talk about above and see how you are doing on what we were discussing before.
Beavis: I think your talking about the collective human conscienceness. From what little I have heard of the theory all human souls and consciousness are connected not only to each other but to the universe as well. Watching crowds of people, I began wondering if there was more to this than I thought. Ever notice everyone in a crowd always acts the same as the guy next to him?
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Originally posted by Dark Knight
I remember the description in Practical Psychic Self Defense where Robert Bruce actually (with permission of the person) gains access to a person, their thoughts, and discovers he can actually influence some of the person's thoughts and actions.
I'm not sure if it's just a spelling mistake on your part, but the "with permission" should be "without permission". Robert spoke in the book of possessing random strangers.
While I'm posting, here are some of my bookmarked links on remote viewing:
http://www.farsight.org/
http://www.probablefuture.com/
http://www.crviewer.com/crviewer/index.html
http://www.crvmanual.com/
http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/
http://www.mceagle.com/remote-viewing/
http://www.psitech.net/
http://www.viking-z.org/
I honestly haven't looked that much into remote viewing; I'm good at collecting bookmarks though[:P] I plan on doing some serious work with it in the near future.
Holy Cripes, Sahlyn, you're right...It's on page 134 of PPSD.
I recognize some of the links you provided, Courtney Brown's page and Lyn Buchanan's page most notable. I'd also recommend:
http://www.davidmorehouse.com/page/page/541685.htm
Spectral D:
As usual the information you give is great. From what I am reading though, CRV is not what is being used in an attempt to kill, it's CRI. Any data on that potential I doubt would be officially documented.
So the shield around me is only an "Astral Shield" not one that goes all the way through. That would explain a lot...and I'm being ripped from the inside out? OK, let me look up some of the sites you gave, finish up some research on my end...and I have got to write that letter to Lyn Buchanan,...among other things.
Specialdragon please make the list. I think alot of people here could use it. I have given the knowledge to fight the mind attacker but there is also the energy attacks that have to be handled.
Dark Knight, our unconscious and conscious minds communicate frequently, but we are not usually consciously aware of that communication.
If you quickly write down your first answer to a test question, your unconscious mind usually has more input in that answer than when you doubt and change the answer.
Something people interested in Remote Viewing might want to look at: http://www.tenthousandroads.com/wbbs/WBB.cgi
There are many people there that can help you with Remote Viewing questions. I myself haven't tried it yet but i fully intend to once i've got the hang of Astral Projection.
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Originally posted by CRIMINALMIND63
Specialdragon please make the list. I think alot of people here could use it. I have given the knowledge to fight the mind attacker but there is also the energy attacks that have to be handled.
I am trying to determine the time variations between the techniques on internal energy that are used here to the ones I practice. I will probably post this in a seperate topic so everyone will know it's around, because everyone can use this. I have to do this soon, though, so you won't have to wait too long. Also I am not "Special", but "Spectral." Would be a bit big headed of me to think of myself as "Special," wouldn't it?[:P][;)]
Errr, by second post was really screwed up, wasn't it? better fix that....
Dark Knight: I am going to send those documents we discussed soon. I also have something I need to talk to you about that came up recently.
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Originally posted by Dark Knight
Holy Cripes, Sahlyn, you're right...It's on page 134 of PPSD.
I recognize some of the links you provided, Courtney Brown's page and Lyn Buchanan's page most notable. I'd also recommend:
http://www.davidmorehouse.com/page/page/541685.htm
These people have some interesting stuff but Brown seems to lose it once the viewing goes non terestrial. Morehouse has come in for critism from some including Jim Schnabel. But this also tends to go with the territory :(
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Spectral D:
As usual the information you give is great. From what I am reading though, CRV is not what is being used in an attempt to kill, it's CRI. Any data on that potential I doubt would be officially documented.
There is an account of remote influencing in Jim Schnabels book Remote Viewer: where the will of a person resisting interogation is apparently weakened by using remote viewers to influence the state of mind of the person and this is reported as being successful.
Typical,
This is why I post findings...books always present the nice face not the behind the scenes gossip.
Ok so what's the gripe Jim Schnabel has with Morehouse? Isn't Jim Schnabel the one who wrote the article "Tinker, Tailor, SOldier, Psi" for, was it The Times? Would you by some chance have the article or a link to the article? Could you also provide detail into why Schnabel is critical of Morehouse? What happened, and is the information trustworthy (a loaded question in itself).
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Originally posted by Dark Knight
Typical,
Ok so what's the gripe Jim Schnabel has with Morehouse? Isn't Jim Schnabel the one who wrote the article "Tinker, Tailor, SOldier, Psi" for, was it The Times?
I recollect the article but not the author. I liked his book as it is written in what I think is an objective manner. However, as is often the case in the public aspects of this arena there is much innuendo and personal attacks. Jim Schnabel is often accused of being a CIA mis-information agent, his main enemies are the crop circle brigade who are not happy about his book 'Round in circles', made me laugh :)
I have the Schnabel article re. Moorhouse and due to its size will email as others here may not be interested. I know people who have attended training courses given by Moorhouse and they speak OK of him and I have seen a documentary program featuring him and that looked OK.
Brown promotes the appocalyptic solution to the problems that he believes exists for the Earth, reminds me of the Heavens Gate lot who set out too early to catch the bus :(
Ed Dames of Psitech is the one who it is claimed trained Brown, below is a press release from his organisation distancing themselves from Brown. This is circa 1997
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Please note that Major Dames of PSI TECH was "the operations & training officer" of the DIA's renote viewing military unit until he retired in 1991. He had formed PSI TECH two years prior, taking the best military rv'ers with him.
It was only a couple years ago that Major Dames trained Courtney Brown in PSI TECH's civilianized intensive technical remote viewing training course. Courtney immediately persued writing his book after graduation, attempting to remote view advanced targets (such as UFO's) when he was not sufficiently practised in the foundation "real world" targets. He rushed through the sessions and analysis to meet a publisher's deadline.
Major Dames and PSI TECH DOES NOT endorse Courtney Browns
conclusions, nor his altered version of remote viewing, which he now
teaches in large groups at his institute.
Please do not align Major Dames & PSI TECH with Courtney Brown
as anendorser or supporter, as this is not the case at all.
Thank you & Happy New Year
Jonina Dourif
PSI TECH, Vice president
PSI TECH's new website will be online in a few weeks at:
http://www.trv-psitech.com
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I found the Psitech investigation of the Long Island aircraft explosion a few years ago very interesting, they looked to have homed in on a problem with an essentially empty mid fuselage fuel tank. This was later presented as the cause of the accident. On the other hand Dames does like to forecast future global disasters which he has presented on Coast to Coast and these dates have passed...
My observation is that the secular orientated method of Remote Viewing looks to work well where the targets are largely physical and persistent, where a non terrestrial object or some future event is the target then results become more problematic.
Of some of the other names associated with Remote Viewing Joe McGoneagle is one that stood out for me as a solid guy. He relates that he would both RV and AP to get data. In his experience the RV method is the more accurate, something to discuss :)
Mick,
Thanks for the article, where do I start with the problems I have with it. [;)]
Might as well just talk about it here since you mentioned it in your last post.
One thing my experience with my situation has taught me is that data can be applied in a variety of contexts. Morehouse's book was the first one on remote viewing I have read. He explained his version of the events that were brought up in Schnabel's article...and with all due respect to Mr Schnabel, Morehouse's account sounds more credible, Schnabel's account of the events sound out of context and deliberately slanted.
Everybody jumps on the book deals and the call my agent crap as if everyone who writes a book makes a fortune. That's just not the case.
I personally want to see the Mercedes alledged in that article. Did he even talk to Morehouse's lawyer? I need to recheck that article.
The other problem I have is if he did all that "inappropriate behavior" with the other soldiers wife,...what are they saying, that was the first time? Why don't you hear behavior like that in the past. C'mon after three Tailhook Scandals one has to wonder. But they're alledging this horrendous behavior on the part of Morehouse and what, it just happened, all the sudden, out of the blue, after years of a spotless record and performance?!
It just sounds like the same old crap, someone comes out and opens their mouth and they're countered with this bizarre series of stories about their persona...sometimes it's worse than any UFO story concocted.
Hate to say it, but I'll forego on that letter to Lyn Buchanan, I think any potential respect for him just went out the window after reading parts of his book and reading that article.
Now I'm disgusted. This is a thread from the Ten Thousand Roads Site on CRI and how some people have decided to use it.
http://www.tenthousandroads.com/wbbs/WBB.cgi?board=proactive;action=display;num=1058058072
See the thread called Remote Influence. Does it exist?
You can not tell me this is moral!
Your senses are not things you can dissociate from, unless self is going to disentegrate altogether. Don't give me this crap about CRI being equivalent to TV commercials influencing you.
Dark Knight, This reminds me of another forum where people pretended they had powers when most of them did not. Just to make themselves big-headed. And I know that guy cannot predict weather using CRV or CRI. Though it is highly possible the world has a conscious, that conscious would work differently and probably Have a lot more presence than a human conscience, Thus making those two abilities useless.
I did notice a lot of interesting reads on the side, though. [:P]
Here is a thought. Did anyone think about if an attacker took your energy or they placed their energy on you to use for attacks.
I was told before to call upon someone to ask to have the energy removed.
Crim,
This guy (really people, I'm starting to discern more than one type of "real" voice, personality), has taken more of my energy and put stuff of his in me than I can count.
During the download my chakras were being ripped out or touched constantly (that along with being kept awake for 2 week s straight and barely any food and water). It was during that point I saw the point of light on the ceiling and was told I was dying. To "save my life" an entity came forward and said he would save my heart chakra by combining a piece of his to my damaged part. I found out too late it was a trick. I remember vaguely it being removed later on during the download and someone trying to do a healing on me.
Dark I believe what you are talking about is implants. They entered your chakras. Each chakra is associated with organs. This can cause you to have physical problems associated with the organs. I have experienced this.
I also was told about your dead and had things go black to show I was dead. I was also shown a tunnel and was told to go to the light. I was also shown a vision where my heart was cut out. If it was my heart chakra I was find without it. I was also shown a vision twice of a dark enity with wings being taking from me.
I can't take this visions for granted because I was already being attacked.
A person needs to question what one senses or sees when a person is being attacked. I have found that my atatcker can send out perceptions to people trying to help them, false perception and people with experience tend to believe them. I have seen much of this going on around me. You don't have to be attacked to have this happen to you. I also know that attackers do send out your energy or what every and send it to experienced people for them to in turn attack you. I have experienced this several times. When one is being attacked one needs to question where it is really coming from. There is reading about the black magician using people to do his deeds for him.
I had a dream of my attacker having blood of other people on him. It's what he has caused other people. Whether it was by the mind thought he placed in their mind or forced energy on them or by using their energy to cause things to happen to other people.
My atatcker does reading twice a week on a regular basis. That is many people he comes into contact with. I know I'm not the only one he is doing this to. This could very well be the people I seen in his home during my dream.
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A person needs to question what one senses or sees when a person is being attacked. I have found that my atatcker can send out perceptions to people trying to help them, false perception and people with experience tend to believe them. by CriminalMind63
Oh Yeah, my attacker does it to me all the time. Sends false help, sends false everything, that's why I don't believe a damn thing and why I keep asking, how in the hell am I supposed to fight back when my perceptions and senses are constantly altered? I can barely remember what normal is supposed to feel like.
Dark it's probalby your attacker using the same voice. Mine does the same. Listen closely you can tell it's the same voice. it's has the same tone, pitch something to it. Not sure of the proper name for it. I'm good with distinquishing voices so I can tell.
I mostly use DBZ and Star Wars to get my self defense techniques, since they're based on real life.
Just kidding. You can't effectively block an attack.
You can use physical objects like rocks and water to help you.
The only thing that really works is awareness; be aware of what's happening to you. Other people can really attack you without you knowing, but they can't attack you when you know what's happening.
Work on your chakras. Work, work, work them like you're exercising your body. Use your frustration to motivate you to keep going.
As a side note, there are multiple studies proving the power of mental influence, and many were done at credible universities:
If a group of people pray for you, you will recover more quickly, you'll score higher in tests, you'll make more money, etc. If people focus on hurting you, then bad things will happen. The studies are out there, look them up.
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Originally posted by Coffee
I mostly use DBZ and Star Wars to get my self defense techniques, since they're based on real life.
LOL!! careful, you're starting to sound like xelios and demonhunter.
Xander[:D]
Crim
I know exactly what you are talking about!
The "test voice(s)" as I have come to call them, they've changed from sounding like a dopey monotone test voice, to them trying to impersonate the positive greys, to (of all things) the voice of Ashe the Android from the first Alien movie (the most annoying of all of them).
It's usually all the same person. But Crim, I'm noticing now (although I'm not sure how I do it) to try to drown out the test voice and I'll listen to see was is being cloaked by them. In other words, I'll hear the test voice and it'll be saying something negative or dopey like, "THis is a war, that's all the permission we need, you won't live to see the end of the week." Cloaked with that dopey message is a normal sounding male voice that will be saying something repeatedly like, "I'm not here, I'm not here, I'm not here," or "You're weakening, you're weakening, you're weakening." I've heard things upon waking up in a normal male voice saying "Her eyes are open and she's reaching for a can of coke on the table" or one of the most distinct ones is, "OK, I have a hook in her left thigh let's start the test." I've heard arguments like one male voice will be saying the mantra, all the sudden another male voice will interject and say, "Wait, wait, wait, she can hear us."
Have they adapted by fooling me with normal sounding speech...since finding out that I could apparently hear them...yes. But it's still information in my belt.
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Originally posted by Dark Knight
Crim
I know exactly what you are talking about!
The "test voice(s)" as I have come to call them, they've changed from sounding like a dopey monotone test voice, to them trying to impersonate the positive greys, to (of all things) the voice of Ashe the Android from the first Alien movie (the most annoying of all of them).
It's usually all the same person. But Crim, I'm noticing now (although I'm not sure how I do it) to try to drown out the test voice and I'll listen to see was is being cloaked by them. In other words, I'll hear the test voice and it'll be saying something negative or dopey like, "THis is a war, that's all the permission we need, you won't live to see the end of the week." Cloaked with that dopey message is a normal sounding male voice that will be saying something repeatedly like, "I'm not here, I'm not here, I'm not here," or "You're weakening, you're weakening, you're weakening." I've heard things upon waking up in a normal male voice saying "Her eyes are open and she's reaching for a can of coke on the table" or one of the most distinct ones is, "OK, I have a hook in her left thigh let's start the test." I've heard arguments like one male voice will be saying the mantra, all the sudden another male voice will interject and say, "Wait, wait, wait, she can hear us."
Have they adapted by fooling me with normal sounding speech...since finding out that I could apparently hear them...yes. But it's still information in my belt.
The possibility that you are actually hearing them is very real. When I was dealing with a human trying similair things out on me I sub-consciously learned to test what I was seeing, block it out if possible, and see past it, much like what you are doing. Sometimes, what I see past is also a fake meant to put me in the wrong direction, however there is a very popular and very accurate saying: you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time. It means that anyone who is trying manipulation of some kind will not always succeed, and openings will thus be found. If you know you have an opening I suggest using it as much as possible.
So in the case above, what I do is I prepare for either case right away, and in a remote sense look at the situation. It's hard to learn how to do, but when learned will save you a lot of guesswork in the end. eventually, you will get enough information to know that one ofthe possibilities was true, and thus equiped you can go from there.
So what do these people with the remote viewing actually want from you guys?
-Aries
Remote viewing is used to spy on people. Here is the experince I had. It maybe the effects of my attacker but this is what I had envisioned. I talked to this one lady she want to know if I seen anything in here future. I seen her sitting at her computer, this was online when this happened. I seen her walking down the street and go into her apartment building. It was a high rise building. Basically I got the description right. When I got into minor details I got it off a little. I then seen her at her office and a man leaning over to talk to her. he was an attorney. She told me. I was right about the information. Another person I had talked to was the same. I told her that her hisband worked in a machine shop. She lost her wedding ring. I knew she was thought about suicide.
You can see the surrounds around you target. Target in this meaning is the person you are remote viewing. You then can target the people in the area that are in the persons view. When this is done you can then use the techniques that are used in attacks. It all depends on what they purpose of the remote viewing is used for.
If you believe what was channeled in the COmmunications Forum by Edi, alledgedly some ET group that knows me (!) went to this particular group in the government (ET-Government ties (!)) and alledgedly wanted me placed on the g-goonie test subject list because, alledgedly, I'm going to be an enemy of theirs someday. At this point I find that whole concept laughable after everything I ahve been through because I'm not in the position of doing anything. My life is ruined mentally, physically, emotionally, financially, just getting the spirit part back. Everything I get back is fought every step of the way.
It's a test, an experimental test. You know, like what the Nazis did to the Jews during WWII? If someone wanted to take control over you, or interegate you and get the full truth, or create an assassin, what would have to be done to create such a person (an automaton)? What steps would have to be taken.
See, as Robert Bruce said in his book, when negs access a person's mind, they can only influence so much. His examples: You could probably get a dieting person to eat a candy bar but you couldn't get a person who doesn't drink to crave a beer.
My perp's philosphy: You can't influence a person...well as long as the personality is intact. So destroy the personality by cutting off and manipulating the senses and associated thoughts and rebuild a new personality to their specifications. I don't think it occured to them I would fight back as hard and as long as I have, or that I would learn and pick up on the tactics being used, notice the pattern of personality and personal boundary disentegration and re-integrate (or try to anyway).
No, I don't say that with any pride...this has been a horrible, sick, twisted experience I would not wish on anyone, and it's happening to a lot of people, mainly abductees like myself. When I haven't died several times I have almost taken my own life.
Dark I dont think you should take your life. It may be bad now but there is always a chance of it getting better. One day you will conquer your demons and everything will be good again. I wish you the best of luck.
-Aries
I have bought several remote viewing books to get a better idea of how Remote Viewers operate.
There is a description in all the books where the viewer can be directed of self directs him/herself to access a human target's mind and in some cases influence the thoughts. It made me feel creepy because I remember the description in Practical Psychic Self Defense where Robert Bruce actually (with permission of the person) gains access to a person, their thoughts, and discovers he can actually influence some of the person's thoughts and actions. Robert related akin to posession.
The one method for evasion against such a thing described so far is to create a mirror like shield around yourself.
I know some of you guys know some remote viewers out there, can you verify any of this?