Vampires? Forced OBE? What?

[Ossian]

::::::ATTN: Long response to a long post:::::::::::::

    First off, to be perfectly honest, this sounds a bit odd to me.  I've never heard of anything that fits your description and the logic of such a creature being interested in a human is a bit soft.  However, as I have the hard way (repeatedly) that the statement "That's not possible!" is a gross generalization I will proceed under the assumption that you are being forthright to the best of your knowledge and ability.  I don't mean any offense by this pretext but it would be dishonest for me to proceed otherwise.

    This really is a fascinating conundrum.  I'll offer a few suggestions below but first off you really need to rid yourself of three things.


    The first is that you need to really make a firm decision about whether you really want him gone.  Even if you think you have don't check this off the list just yet.  There are many undertones in your post that strongly suggest a lack of conviction.  Besides the obvious assumptions that can be drawn from a situation that feels good now and who's negatives are delayed in their manifestation.  


    When step one is complete the next thing to do is to take a few (hundred) steps back and attempt to view the situation objectively.  Another issue I see is a glorification of the assailant.  This is common in hostage situations (which you seem to be in) and results (theoretically) from the social hardwiring of the human brain.  In a situation where we feel helpless we immediately become emotionally dependant (and hence attached) to whomever we see as powerful.  (ex. parent-child relationship, beaten wife syndrome)

    You obviously feel a bit helpless and you certainly seem to see what's-his-face as powerful so it is easy to see how the contrast could exaggerate his power in your eyes.  Take a hard look at his strengths and weaknesses, everyone and everything has soft spots.  Also be aware that if he/she/it becomes erratic (acting without apparent cause) your headed in the right direction.  Desperation of the enemy is the surest sign of approaching victory.

    It may also be useful to note that parasites are highly specialized organisms and as such, are not terribly effective at preying on humans. We're far too mercurial.


    The third issue I see is your defeatism.  This goes back to step one but I believe that this is probably the most vital action you will take and as such I don't mind reiterating.  I know you're frustrated, I know you're tired, you have every right to be.  What's-his-name sounds like he's very good at what he does and is obviously working with a great deal more information than you but you have to realize that he is a parasite.

    Think about the animal kingdom for a moment.  If you consider every example of parasitic behavior (aka animals that do not immediately kill their prey) you will find that when successful these organisms have accomplished one of two things.  Either they have managed to fill a niche in which they benefit their host in some way (i.e. the bacteria in you digestive track) or they have managed to trick their host in to not resisting them (tapeworms, ticks, mosquitoes).  Not one example I can think of involves the parasite being stronger than the host.  In fact, most of the time it would be a simple thing for the host to kill the parasite, if they could only figure out how.


    Ahh, I'm horribly late.  I will have to finish this post later.  If you wouldn't mind answering a few quick questions...  Your age, what type of place you live in (rural, urban, suburban, etc.), how many people you live with and how busy your life is it would help me to present some viable options.  For example if you have 2 kids, a husband long periods of isolation and quiet (oh beloved silence) aren't terribly feasible.

    Also let me know if any of this resonates or if you have any questions.  Talk to you later.

Ossian
[]

[Angelfire]

Hey, thanks, Ossian.
Odd? I'd say flat out weird and impossible! I used to be one of them – would shake my head and shrug while wondering what is going on with this person, but thanks for keeping an open mind. The soft logic (Is there really any logic here at all?) of such a creature being interested in humans is a concept I have spent a lot of time pondering over the last few months. No answers, nothing.

He occurs in my present, waking physical mental/spiritual environment. I am rational, aware and very much interactive with my family and dogs. I live in a big city and work in a large open concept office with over two hundred people. I love to read, write, paint and spend time with my favorite people.

I have denied him, banished him, turned my mind completely away. I have prayed, stayed busy all the time, occupying my mind with mundane thoughts, chores, friends etc. He does not leave, but watches and waits from a distance. Do I really want him gone? Yes, truly. How could anyone want some force outside themselves to hang around? I have no answers as to what he is, nor do I know where to get them. I just know he is. There are many influences at play when he is near me and I am constantly switching to the objective and pulling back to gain a greater perspective. It's the only way I can keep any kind of a balance and know what is really real for me.

As for glorifying him, I'm not sure about that. Incubus are said to beautify themselves for their victims, but I do not perceive him as beautiful. You mistake me if you think I see him as some handsome spiritual wanderer. And, the hostage mentality is too pat. I would be an absolute fool to let him know of any weaknesses or show even a hint of helplessness. I cannot stress this enough. I hold my own with him, but by might of will and sheer determination. A skeptic at heart, it has taken me months to accept that this thing even really exists. But, after much internet research and a lot of shock, I am coming to terms with it. Now, I try not to spend any time thinking about him at all. What I need most is to find permanent protection.

If a parasite can be ruled out, then what? Can some parasites be more powerful than others? It would help enormously if I had some general idea of what he was and why he's doing this. Unfortunately, I'm beginning to think there aren't any answers. I know I've looked far and wide and found nothing remotely similar except for incubi and vampires. I have tried just about everything on him. I don't know where to turn next, but I won't give up or in. That is not my nature. Nothing seems to work on him for very long. The battle continues incessantly. Defeat is something I never indulge in, but in this situation I can feel myself being worn down slowly.
Angelfire

[Aries]

Hmmm sounds like you have some troubles. I would try talking with Enderwiggen, SpectralDragon, and Tayesin. They may be able to help. They have helped alot of others on this site with similiar problems.
-Aries

[rhinegirl]

He doesn't sound like any Incubi i've ever seen. If he really is one then to see his demonic form should be o problem. Most revert to demon form when in a feeding frenzy.

Are you certain he's not your masculine self? Anima? Animus? whatever it's called it doesn't seem that he's malicious, you state he has many abilities so I'm sure if he wanted you hurt he would.

Jessica.

quote:Originally posted by Angelfire

Warning, this is a long post!
Hello everyone, I am new here, but searching for any information I can find and appreciate whatever anyone has to share. Where to begin? There is an entity around me since September, 2003. I've researched incubus, vampires and the like. I do not practice OBE and did not invite this is into my life. He has told me that he planted the image of himself in my mind and that he watched me for months before he pounced on me. Anyone with incubus experience will know how powerful it can be - almost beyond the normal mind to comprehend. Here's what happened and is still happening:
-Mental telepathy with him
-Clear, concise image in my mind of a tall, well built blonde man with long hair Often he is very large physically. His beauty is incredible, but I've put this allure down to the incubus.
- Full blown spontaneous kundalini opening
- Spiritual relationship and energy root stimulation
- For me a pervading aura of positivity in attitude, mind set and life perspective, happiness, bliss, feeling completely loved
- Chakra disarray, complete mental and spiritual confusion
- Weakening of energy base, weakening of vital energies
- Cycle of minimum once a day feeding - energy drawing
- He is mentally stimulating and intelligent and well versed in the spiritual realm
- He performs a mind switch with ensuing trance onset (It's the oddest feeling to be around other humans and know that you are not really there with them, but a good portion of (mental?) self is with him.)
- Uses strange abilities to influence and manipulate my mental state, but also respectful of my day to day family activities and work routines and creates no overt interference, but can make his mental presence known when he wants to – will often send mild sensations of love when this happens.
- Wants all my attention, 24/7
- He interferes with my energy cycle, it does not complete its flow and is being drained away
- Will attack if he does not get what it wants – evident, broad body vibrations and strong sensations that he is right there beside me – touches mouth and chin often – overpowering in his presence, causes waves of power to flow over me
- No real fear on my part, although I don't like having him near me
- Invasion and tearing of my aura with result of him residing WITHIN my aura
- I have experienced no terrible horrific events, illnesses or pain just a continual attack from him on my psychic mental realm
- I have grown more powerful, more spiritual and now certainly walk with God with no doubts whatsoever. I am now fully aware of the other spiritual zones outside my human physical orientation. My world has now become a vast cornucopia of waiting experiences that I am denied because this thing stands directly in my way.
The greatest problem and the reason why I am posting this, is resisting him. He is strong/powerful. It takes an enormous amount of energy to fight him off. I cannot stress enough that this entity works in daylight when I am fully awake, creates an exceptionally beautiful environment of rich love, comfort, bliss and complete pleasure. It is addictive and very like the definition of what an incubus does. He is a fully formed persona in his own right. He walks, talks, gets angry, he laughs. I'm not kidding and yes, I have read many mental health sites looking for some answers to this craziness! Nothing fits.

I deny his apparition, keep an iron grip on all my thoughts, establish a clear focus on anything but him, work with my body energies, increase my vibrations, cut up a lot of garlic and step over my indoor fountain laid on the floor as often as I can. Using the black tennis ball to absorb negativity has been a miracle in my life. I am spiritual and always have been. I heal, clean my chakras all the time, my kundalini is under control and turned away from him. My grounding cords (spiritual and physical) are anti-matter, reinforced cables(!), angels walk with me, spiritual helpers aid where they can and I sleep in the house of the Lord every night.  

Please, does anyone know what to do? How do I decrease his power? Even after fighting his attacks for 16 days by last count, I find him undiminished and even more powerful than before with a greater ability to break through even the minutest area of any weakness about me. It is not possible for me to be all powerful all the time. I have found I can make demands and he will give in to them. I demanded he contain the incubus and he did. Nothing buzzes around me anymore, a peace has ensued about my body, but his power has not been contained in any way. Perhaps I'm not stressing enough that in the end this thing is feeding off me. I feel like some kind of gas station out in the spiritual realm with a big sign that says FEEDING PORTAL OPEN.

Help![]

[Anonymous]

Rhinegirl, I believe this spirit is malicious and may in fact be the vampire you've been looking for. You said you were searching for a powerful vampire, and by definition, he is a vampire, and sounds like he might be powerful, though Angelfire's lack of experience in psychic practices such as OBEing or telepathy might be a factor in this as well. I would suggest you do an investigation. I will also be investigating to see who or what dark beings seem to be messing with your group. I see a wall in front of you and the other members of your group. See past their illusions, destroy the wall. Shatter it beyond coherence. Some beings are more deceptive than you seem to realize. They'll take energy from one person, for example, and use it to attack another, and when the attacked person traces the energy, they find that person whose energy was taken and used, and attack them instead of the real attacker. They may take on different forms. They will try to infiltrate in every way possible. You may be doing divinations, but that is not enough. You must use other methods as well, and your group might want to call on other warrior groups to help you so that you are very sure about your investigation results.

[Angelfire]

Thanks for providing at least some place to start. I checked out the anima, animus reference, but came away disappointed.

He does not change form in any way even when feeding. And, I've always wondered about his loving nature as his influence can be almost overpowering. He uses this in a very subtle manner - it is there before you even realize anything is happening and very difficult to guard against.

I am very curious about the phrase 'tracing the energy'. Can I learn to do that and find his source? Perhaps a weakness!? Can I retrieve my stolen energy?

He has yet to be malicious, but I do not underestimate him ever. I am more powerful and spiritually aware. This directly applies to managing what is happening and holding my own strongly.

I have surfed the net for spiritual vampires, experiences etc. Where can I find the stuff? Information is my friend and knowledge is my best friend.  
[]

[Anonymous]

Angelfire, let me explain something to you... Anyone who does anything against your will in such a way as draining you of your energy or sexually manipulating you is an evildoer and is being malicious. Therefore, he must die. Personally, it seems to me that you're afraid of him because of his power. As long as you're afraid, he can do whatever he wants to you. If you want him gone, ask him to leave. If he doesn't leave, let me know... I'll take care of it.[]

[Michael_Stonewing]

Angelfire, what state do you live in?
Actually just tell me whether you live in Florida, Alabama, or Georgia.
I am actually making sure that you do not live in the same general area as I do...

[shedt]

I'm not a expert, but I would personally recommend a change in perspective. sometimes it's hard to do, see something with new eyes. Clean the board off, you know what I mean ?

If you can shift or change your perspective maybe you can see this thing in it's true form. I htink if you hold to yourself certain aspects of your situation as absolute then this could be the root of the problem.

You state that it is powerful, but maybe for a moment you should change this perception.

tell yourself, it is not powerful. maybe it presents to you it is beautiful, for your point of view. but if you see it from it's backside, from above looking down, you may see it's true form.

forget all that you know for a few moments, and look at this all differently.

again this is all IMHO

take care,

best of wishes

[Ossian]

:::::::::: Ahhhh! The verbosity continues! :::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    I love you freakin' Canadians!  Shedt is absolutely right (from my perspective).  What he's talking about (I believe) is kind of where I was going originally though my eloquence was horribly lacking.  I think he is seeing/feeling/perceiving the same current I was working with, that being a major sense that you're reacting to some inaccurate (and probably manufactured) perceptions of this entity.

    Of course this being, who I will here after refer to as Spooks to avoid thinking up synonyms for "entity", is a parasite.  He feeds on others but does not damage them lethally for the purpose of being able to feed again.  Vampires and sovereigns are just as much parasites as ticks and leeches, just on a different scale with different appetites.  This does not necessarily mean that parasites are negative, nor does it necessarily mean that, "he must die."  

    Tomorrow is a Saturday.  I have to work tomorrow, on a Saturday.  This drains my energy and I only wish it would "sexually manipulate" me.  This does not make my employer an evildoer, it's just a part of the system by which I have agreed to live.  If I find that the negatives of my employment (like working on Saturday) outweigh the benefits (like money) it is my responsibility to change the system, in this case get a different job.

    I find it somewhat hypocritical to damn poor Spooks for feeding.  I just ate an apple (without the courtesy of sexually stimulating it first), does this make me the enemy of apple trees?  Of course not, this makes me an organism who's position upon the food chain dictates that I eat apples.  I don't dislike apples, I'm quite found of them actually, but if I did not eat (feed) I would die and all the other organisms I have consumed in order to live would have died in vain.  And that doesn't help anybody.  Life feeds on life, there's no avoiding it, we have only to cherish and be grateful to the countless life forms that must perish that we may live (and the one's who died for them to live, etc. etc.).

    That said, I am hardly attempting to preach a doctrine of submission.  (If you knew me you would get a chuckle from that.)  I am simply saying that I don't think you can take such "attacks" personally.  In fact, I would suspect that doing so does not help your cause.

    The whole point I was trying to make with the parasite topic is that Spooks' behavior is totally inconsistent with a predator.  If he were a predator we would have certainly eaten you up by now and would have now moved on to other prey.  Now if you accept the postulate that it is at least parasitic behavior we are dealing with, if not a parasitic organism, then it simply does not make sense for him to feed on a creature (namely you) as infinitely weaker that himself as you have described him.  (My impressions.  Your grim determination to fight on even though you secretly "know" you can never when if almost tangible.)  

    I have been approaching this thing from a perspective of seeing Spooks as purely negative with an extreme focus on the "feeding" part of what you have said.  (This is of course contrary to everything I have said, go figure.)  Perhaps looking at other reasons why he should have such an attachment to you will prove enlightening.  Would you mind throwing out a few possible theories for scenarios in which Spooks is more desperate child and less vampiric demon (hyperbole! J )?  Brainstorming is almost always productive.

Also I would like to apologize for the tardiness of my list of suggestions.  I know that this must all seem like mildly interesting chatter that isn't accomplishing a darn thing, though I believe in this situation a solid philosophical grasp would greatly strengthen your flanks.  I have been attempting to weave a conclusion from a few alike situations I have encountered and my intuitions upon them (remembering an intuition is always fun.)  Unfortunately most had just as little (often less) information to offer as you do and as such my intuitions are the bulk of my knowledge, hence the delay.

All I have been able to bring down to the articulatable level is that in all cases the women (it has always been women, hmm, I hadn't considered that) have shared a bizarre fascination/dependency/self-destructive " vibe" (I hate that word, vibe, eck!).  If you ever known someone with a sever cocaine addiction the feeling isn't terribly different.  I have come to believe that such is in some way a symptom of their unique interactions with people like Spooks.

That's all I have for now, I'll sit down tomorrow and really hash it out.  Maybe then I can give you something to of use.  Until then you can try questing with an elf and a dwarf but it sounds a bit exhausting.  All that rolling of 74-sided dice.

I hope I haven't offended anyone but as I have agreed to approach this with the weight of reality I felt certain things needed to be addressed.  I will add tomorrow and be warned, it will make my previous long-windedness seem trifling!

Ossian [8D]


Ps- EnderWiggin, I find certain of your insinuations preposterous but I REALLY like your quotes.

[Anonymous]

Ossian, let's take this a step further: Where do such parasitic entities come from? Why is it considered "natural" for humans to feed on other organisms? Can we change ourselves through evolution so that we feed on the energy put out by the sun, as it is the primary source of energy for this entire planet and every organism on it? There are systems we can use, such as qi gong, to raise our own energy. Does this not suggest an alternative method? The reason  we eat so much food goes back to our cave-person days. We started sticking together in tribes to ward off predators. We then started establishing rules to make sure we could tolerate each other and not kill each other off. However, some tribes disagreed with others, and as the tribes got bigger (mind you we were hunter-gatherers throughout this), they became nations, and thanks to a few social parasites throughout history, we ended up where we are today, with a society (at least here in teh U.S.) that is run on a system of corporate self-interest. Does the U.S. not feed off of other nations at their expense? We don't give them very much, if anything, in return. Do the people in charge care? Not in the least. Rwanda is a fine example of this.

We can live longer on just water than on just food. It has been said that one does not need to consume as much food when practicing qi gong frequently.

I don't know who started qi gong, but I do know that it is about as old as humanity itself- a good 10,000 years or more, and so is acupuncture. People who practice this energy system live longer and healthier lives, become spiritually enlightened, and enjoy many other benefits from it as well.

I would also like to point out that some animals have a symbiotic relationship. Remoras clean the bodies of sharks, and in return the shark provides them with protection. This does not make the remora a parasite, because it is not feeding directly from the shark, but rather the microorganisms growing on it that would otherwise damage it.

Now, humans feed off of each others' energies all the time inadvertently. How many times have you gone into a crowded mall and come out tired? Or walked on a crowded street?

Excess of energy can also lead to a lack of energy. Ever lie in the sun too long? You get tired. You get tired because the sun fills your body with so much energy, and your body reflexively starts dumping it to make room for new energy. But your body can't dump the energy fast enough, so when you go inside, it takes your body time to adjust to the new energy conditions around you.

Now, astral matter is extremely sensative to thought. But what, exactly, is thought? You know, but can you put it into words? The dictionary defines it as "something in the mind." So, the things in your mind affect what is in the astral. Maybe that is where such beings come from: our collective consciousness and our perception of the world around us.

Maybe, then, we as a whole should learn to perceive things around us differently. As you said, Ossian, perhaps perceiving the situation differently is a way out. If this is a cycle, then we should break out of it where it is most vulnerable: in the here and now.

By the way, I was only kidding that this entity must die. Maybe my humor was too subtle. My point is, there there are sources out there of infinite energy, and if these parasites can find them, they won't need us.

The simple fact of the matter is, we need energy. Why do we need it? Why was the Universe created this way? Why are we forced to feed off of other animals and plants when they have done us no wrong? Of course I'm a hyppocrite for saying what I said. But not completely. What we're dealing with here are two sentient beings, one of which is feeding on the other. Can't Spooks get multiple hosts so he doesn't screw up the life of one? Can't he drain a tid-bit from everyone instead of all he needs from one, and having it affect them?

I'm not going to take Spooks's side in this because I can tell you that vampirism is a religion and has filed with the government. Some humans seek to become vampires. I know this because of my work with other occultists. It was brought to my attention by someone I work with.

We humans are capable of producing our own energy from within, and so are many spirits out there. Why can't Spooks? Never have I encountered a good spirit who has sucked energy from me. Even when they needed help, I did what they asked me to do, but they never sucked my energy out of desperation. Some have actually been around me for weeks, months, or even years at a time.

I realize you have pointed out many of the things I have pointed out, but I am using these things to view things from a different perspective than my original one or yours (Ossian). Let me know what you think. We seem to agree in some ways, but overall, we have contrasting beliefs on this.

[shedt]

First off, correct me if i am wrong, but last time i checked we recieve most of our energy from oxygen, not from food. we need food, but the majority is from the air we breath.

qi gong is very nice. but it also depends on who you learn it from. I believe in cultivation, of my spirit, mind and body. and of energy that would be of my own. But in Falun Dafa I learned qi gong exercises are not as great as the aspects of cultivating your mind and spirit as well.

I personally think that Angelfire should look at this differenlty. try and see what they connection is between the two.

also too try and see this situation and this entity from another perspective. it may not have to die. it may not be evil.

maybe it might help her too. did she say that ? maybe it would be worth the trade off. spiritual help and learning for a bit of energy.

in society today it's ok to give blood to someone who needs it.

i see no reason to not share extra energy.

hmm let me think about this for a bit

[shedt]

quote:Originally posted by EnderWiggin

How many times have you gone into a crowded mall and come out tired? Or walked on a crowded street?

all the time !

i like taking showers when i go to a forth from my home. seems to help a bit.

[Angelfire]

When desperation settles over you and nothing is working, there comes a point when facts are faced and the question arises – can you, would you kill it? Indeed, let the desperation settle a little deeper still and an urge, a realization, comes that you will fight and never stop fighting for as long as it takes and you will do what is necessary.

Again and again, I question why? I am human and did not go looking for this. Previously, I was simply spiritual, aware of the innate laws of nature and tones and vibrations of my body. I've practiced natural medicine for many years, stayed in tune with my environment and mind. Such a simple life back then. Why would something like this want to attach to a human? If I am weaker than him - I never admit this, then why is he here?  

I want to narrow the range of possibilities. Parasitic, vampire, neg. Feeding is feeding, no matter which way you slice it, good or bad. In his case, he just makes it as pleasant as possible, which doesn't fool me at all. Feeding is an act of life (which appears to take many forms), whether it is an apple or some unknown quantity beyond the normal parameters of mind. We are all responsible for not over-consuming and keeping the inherent balance of our environment, body, mind and spirit.

I switch perspectives all the time. Near and far and he remains in form. From a longer distance, there are some kind of rings around him. A few have color. I have walked in these rings and they are chock full of influences.

Now, out of sheer necessity I have gone to ground. This entails being one with earth energies and a new experience for me. He stands there watching me, but I deny him - the usual cycle. Here my psyche is protected by some kind of veil and my physical body wears a shroud of deep green. Using willpower, I force him away and he goes, but never far. The problem is he does not go away.

I operate in two worlds, one physical (pleasant and going along as usual), one mental/spiritual (where the mother of all battles is taking place in an ongoing cycle).

[Sam]

Well as always I can try to use my own experience to help - not that I'm competing mind you but hopefully others can learn from my mistakes.  I used to have vivid fantasys (too embarrasing to recount) which took over my life by the time I was 16, and through meditation I realised I was being used, the fantasys were being driven into me so I would respond by concentrating energy which was then easily fed off.  Once I saw the true nature of this... thing...  (Like you angelfire I have no word to describe what it is, just that it was attacking me and still lingers around if I ignore it for a few days it comes back and I can feel it "take hold" again)...  it shape shifts into people that it thinks I will mistake as the people themselves in order to get an emotional response.  It has also for the space of a year taken over my life completely and my physical body has been used to do many things I am ashamed of but which I, myself had no actual control over.  

The thing which most strikes me about this kind of creature is it is EXTREMELY well versed in conversation.  I tried communicating with it many times and it convinced my that it was a: CIA agents who've detected me and are watching me to see if I am an asset or a liability to their "scheme", b: god, c: friends or family trying to "help".  By doing this it effectively ran my life by making me afraid and easily manipulated.

Ok so it finally posed as a spirit guide and it was "helping" me focus my energy into ridding myself of the "evil spirit" which was really just pulling my strings once more and getting a free ride to my demise.

It still tries to get in now but I can recognise it pretty well by looking it straight in the eyes.  As soon as I do that the layers of deception are torn away and an ugly beast of a thing is before me - quite indescribable.  I took most of the steps you did in working on raising my energy and trying to maintain focus, but sometimes the little @#$@ still manages to get inside.

Hw to go about actually diminishing its power?  I find resisting it directly only makes things worse, because you are draining vast reserves of energy which it obviously seems able to absorb or deflect, probably through its own willpower.  Ignoring it doesn't help much either, because no matter how much you try to raise the energy levels it just keeps on skimming it off you by means of deception and oh-so-subtle manipulation.  Just thinking about it as I write this post, I can feel it sensing a weakness and forcing its way in because somehow thinking about it seems to... I don't know exactly but it seems to give it some kind of access!  It's trying to influence my post and its succeeding!

Damn!

I think we both need help Angelfire.  These things are cunning deceptive and highly intelligent and knowledgable.  They are definately not a thought form (hopefully SD can be so kind as to have a quick squiz in our direction and let us know what he thinks).

They use their convincing ways to stimulate strong emotional responses such as fear, anger, lust, etc so that they can feed off it.  I find that sheilding and focussing works to some extent.  Do you find that when it tries to "get in" to your mind it feels like its penetrating your skull from the outside, around the front and sides?  If you try and block it do you feel the "pressure" shift around to some other part of your head, but if you try to block it altogether your concentration fails?

Sorry about the long winded and twisting post but it seems likely angelfire and I are experiencing a similar attack, I mean some of the particulars are different but largely correlate.  I set out trying to offer help but realised that I'm still affected by this thing and I've put up with it for too long.  I've just been afraid to talk about it because I was scared of not being taken seriously.

[Michael_Stonewing]

Since it seems I will not be getting an answer to my first question I can only give you a theory. I have felt that some people are only a small part of the actual being they are. Think of a gallon of milk in the fridge you take the gallon out and try an pour the entire contents of it into a 6oz glass... What happens? The majority of it is left either around the glass or you must gather more glasses to fill. Perhaps their is someone close to the attack victims which is like this. The main part of who they are is left outside of their current form but yet it is still there. What it does whether it be for good evil or just to entertain itself is outside of the "so called laws of Karma" The single glass or person is not responsible for the larger part of what it does. What I am getting at is maybe someone close to the victims are like this. The glass of milk may not know what the rest of it is doing but the large part outside of the glass knows what the milk inside the glass experiences and may decide to act in some way to entertain itself until the glass gets big enough to contain the entire gallon of milk.

A rough analogy I know but it is about the best way I could describe it without getting knee deep in metaphysics.

[Angelfire]

Hello from Canada, Michael – many, many miles away. You're safe. Sorry for taking so long to respond, but I could not get into the forums for some reason. Was it down during the week?

Here's what I've discovered the last few days:
There is no barrier between my mental/spiritual arena and the outer universe beyond the mind where he/it exists. Normally, there is a barrier there, produced by the conscious mind and ego based (I think). This barrier ultimately is partly psychic and is the normal psychic protection all humans are supposed to live under. It is the veil between worlds. For me, the veil is still there, but there's a large hole blown through part of it. When I discovered this was the reason why he/it was telepathically able to be right there in my mind and near my body, I understood my psychic defenses were breached.

Now, using the milk analogy, here's what I see happening. Perhaps the glass has a hole in and he/it is free to enter and mix with the milk in the glass. With no psychic protection this thing is free to come and go at will, gain power and control over the human and do, essentially, what it wants to do. What I was trying to do before and getting tired and greatly frustrated was to get rid of it while the hole in my psychic barrier was still there.

I'm working on my psychic barrier using an awareness of my energies and a lot of strong imagery. There was immense relief when I felt free in my own mind for the first time in a long time. It is once again a private place.  

As for when it tries to get in, Sam, there is pressure around my head and buzzing too, especially over my right ear. And it does have the strangest way of coming to life when stirred up. Be careful, Sam! I am on day eight today, Saturday, with my psychic shield in place - firm and strong and constantly being monitored and reinforced by me. There has been no unwanted telepathic communication, although it has tried sometimes relentlessly, but it cannot come in.

Trying to get rid of it using the psychic shield is working!

Sam, how long has this thing been with you? How do you keep it from coming in? Do you just fight it each time it happens?
[]

[Angelfire]

Warning, this is a long post!
Hello everyone, I am new here, but searching for any information I can find and appreciate whatever anyone has to share. Where to begin? There is an entity around me since September, 2003. I've researched incubus, vampires and the like. I do not practice OBE and did not invite this is into my life. He has told me that he planted the image of himself in my mind and that he watched me for months before he pounced on me. Anyone with incubus experience will know how powerful it can be - almost beyond the normal mind to comprehend. Here's what happened and is still happening:
-Mental telepathy with him
-Clear, concise image in my mind of a tall, well built blonde man with long hair Often he is very large physically. His beauty is incredible, but I've put this allure down to the incubus.
- Full blown spontaneous kundalini opening
- Spiritual relationship and energy root stimulation
- For me a pervading aura of positivity in attitude, mind set and life perspective, happiness, bliss, feeling completely loved
- Chakra disarray, complete mental and spiritual confusion
- Weakening of energy base, weakening of vital energies
- Cycle of minimum once a day feeding - energy drawing
- He is mentally stimulating and intelligent and well versed in the spiritual realm
- He performs a mind switch with ensuing trance onset (It's the oddest feeling to be around other humans and know that you are not really there with them, but a good portion of (mental?) self is with him.)
- Uses strange abilities to influence and manipulate my mental state, but also respectful of my day to day family activities and work routines and creates no overt interference, but can make his mental presence known when he wants to – will often send mild sensations of love when this happens.
- Wants all my attention, 24/7
- He interferes with my energy cycle, it does not complete its flow and is being drained away
- Will attack if he does not get what it wants – evident, broad body vibrations and strong sensations that he is right there beside me – touches mouth and chin often – overpowering in his presence, causes waves of power to flow over me
- No real fear on my part, although I don't like having him near me
- Invasion and tearing of my aura with result of him residing WITHIN my aura
- I have experienced no terrible horrific events, illnesses or pain just a continual attack from him on my psychic mental realm
- I have grown more powerful, more spiritual and now certainly walk with God with no doubts whatsoever. I am now fully aware of the other spiritual zones outside my human physical orientation. My world has now become a vast cornucopia of waiting experiences that I am denied because this thing stands directly in my way.
The greatest problem and the reason why I am posting this, is resisting him. He is strong/powerful. It takes an enormous amount of energy to fight him off. I cannot stress enough that this entity works in daylight when I am fully awake, creates an exceptionally beautiful environment of rich love, comfort, bliss and complete pleasure. It is addictive and very like the definition of what an incubus does. He is a fully formed persona in his own right. He walks, talks, gets angry, he laughs. I'm not kidding and yes, I have read many mental health sites looking for some answers to this craziness! Nothing fits.

I deny his apparition, keep an iron grip on all my thoughts, establish a clear focus on anything but him, work with my body energies, increase my vibrations, cut up a lot of garlic and step over my indoor fountain laid on the floor as often as I can. Using the black tennis ball to absorb negativity has been a miracle in my life. I am spiritual and always have been. I heal, clean my chakras all the time, my kundalini is under control and turned away from him. My grounding cords (spiritual and physical) are anti-matter, reinforced cables(!), angels walk with me, spiritual helpers aid where they can and I sleep in the house of the Lord every night.  

Please, does anyone know what to do? How do I decrease his power? Even after fighting his attacks for 16 days by last count, I find him undiminished and even more powerful than before with a greater ability to break through even the minutest area of any weakness about me. It is not possible for me to be all powerful all the time. I have found I can make demands and he will give in to them. I demanded he contain the incubus and he did. Nothing buzzes around me anymore, a peace has ensued about my body, but his power has not been contained in any way. Perhaps I'm not stressing enough that in the end this thing is feeding off me. I feel like some kind of gas station out in the spiritual realm with a big sign that says FEEDING PORTAL OPEN.

Help![]