SEE Astral Experiences: Something VERY different!!

[Xelios]

I don't think those little grey aliens are of a very spiritual nature.
If all the stories about them are true,then their spiritual nature must be somewhere down there with the leaders and secret police of communist countries.
I sometimes wonder if that is their( Grey aliens) true appearance or if those are actually some type of spacesuits they are wearing.
I have met those repitilian aliens, and they are evil incarnate.
I read a book that stated that satanists work with some of these evil aliens as well as demonic spirits.
A dimension should be created from which there is no escape,and every evil race should be put in such a dimension.

[Anonymous]

I wonder who this middle-aged man is and what he is doing.

[Dark Knight]

I am starting to believe the middle aged jerk Tayesin ran into may very well be the entity giving me all my grief...a combination of speaking to Tayesin and Robert Bruce (RB says he doesn't buy into the idea that entities from several points in my past (lives) could be after me, he strongly believes it's one nasty cretin shapeshifting and doing impersonations. Like Crim's attacker impersonating a woman's voice. Fine by me, I wasn't sure what to make of the original information, that's why I came to the Pulse, for a serious reality check).

However, I'm still in "might be" stage and will not go to "definitely" stage until I get a little more information.

Some of the things Tayesin described are startling similar (Whoever my entity is, I've gotten threats of "You're dangerous, you're never waking up, you're going down.") Does that mean he's impersonating the greys too. I haven't ruled it out, but it doesn't make sense (just not willing to go into that part yet, just seeing two opposite ends of a poll).

[Dark Knight]

I checked out http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

I live in the US Eastern Standard Time zone. My experience happened 12:30AM. Tayesin is in AEST, which is 14hrs ahead of us which would have been 2:30PM AEST.

So the greys paid Tayesin a visit just a few hours after I told them to go see him.

[Mick]

quote:Originally posted by Dark Knight

(RB says he doesn't buy into the idea that entities from several points in my past (lives) could be after me, he strongly believes it's one nasty cretin shapeshifting and doing impersonations. Like Crim's attacker impersonating a woman's voice. Fine by me, I wasn't sure what to make of the original information, that's why I came to the Pulse, for a serious reality check).

I placed a message in a topic two or three weeks ago to this effect where the point was suggested to me that maybe only astral entities attack humans while ETs don't. Shapeshifting does seem endemic so what is what?

A few years ago during a fairly intense time for myself and some others I observed a form moving towards a group of people holding a seance type activity. As it approached it took on a North American Indian appearance (very popular in UK spiritualist circles) and the group reacted by recognising a 'friend'. This made us very much more cautious about whom we would accept input from and became very much more reliant upon our own methods of information gathering such as projection and viewing. My early days of psychic activities included Psychometry practise (also known as object memory). This ability tagged to a projection can be quite useful for determining background stuff to use as a complement to what is being viewed.

As for the ETs, listened for a while then became disapointed by their lack of real delivery. Still a little intrigued but life is too short waiting for them to save us or is it invade us

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However, I'm still in "might be" stage and will not go to "definitely" stage until I get a little more information.

I think that there is always that element in this arena. Even when a picture is developed, it needs to stay flexible in order to accomodate subsequent understanding/developments.

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Some of the things Tayesin described are startling similar (Whoever my entity is, I've gotten threats of "You're dangerous, you're never waking up, you're going down.") Does that mean he's impersonating the greys too. I haven't ruled it out, but it doesn't make sense (just not willing to go into that part yet, just seeing two opposite ends of a poll).

Threats I think can be part of the suppresion angle, they contribute to keeping people bottled up, nervous and apprehensive which is conducive to poor defence and loss of energy and material.
When we hear such comments we laugh as that iritates the entities most

[CRIMINALMIND63]

Dark Knight, The buzzing you feel is also magic being sent to you. It maybe in the form of conjure from your atatcker. I also had this. I read a book and it said when you leave the body and go to a lower level you will hear this sound. I also experienced the buzzing in my face when you could say something took me over.

Tayesin. I have also been somewhere. My attacker would love to tell you it was a spaceship. I seen a round table, but not quite a table. I could look down through it and see stars. I never looked up.

[Dark Knight]

That's interesting, more than you know, Crim.

Thanks

[Anonymous]

I guess that's (at least) one more added to my hit list.

[MJ-12]

Wz

[Anonymous]

I agree that aliens probably shouldn't paralyze their contactees. It's not nice because it does not allow for the complete exercise of one's free will. Just my views on it.

[Dark Knight]

It's hard to tell because there are so many different types of greys...different points in linear time (from our perspective), different groups, some involved in physical abductions, some (like me, maybe) non-physical OBE abductions, some seemingly nice...some not so nice.

I don't know, I'm going to wait till I get a chance to work with Tayesin.

[Anonymous]

Just like human beings... some nice, some not so nice.

[Xelios]

I wonder if there is a method to see through illusions.
There are a few alien species on this planet that can appear as humans, and they walk among humans.
Maybe the use of astral sight can help to see through their illusions.
Maybe highly developed clairvoyance mixed with the ability to shield your mind from their influence.
How,I wonder, would aliens or certain astral entities react if they knew you could see their true forms?
I have been able to project such illusions, so that people who see me think I look eighteen. I have been able to make my face look different as well.

[Nagual]

I think that looking into the eyes of someone/something can tell a lot; at least for me...  If there is an illusion; it can only be in the way we interpret the energy of the target...  If you can see energy directly, there should be no illusion.

[Mick]

quote:Originally posted by MJ-12


I'm lying in bed on my side, when suddenly, I realize that I'm paralzed. No big deal, I thought, but there was a presence in my mind. I saw the "eyes" of a grey alien and the presence told me that if in my bed I should look into its eyes, then I would be giving it permission to "take" me with it. In hindsight, it didn't seem like it wanted to panic me, and it was respectful of my free will (although, I was also ready and very capable of enforcing it)

For info.
The paralysis thing gets discussed a lot at ASP, the Awareness during Sleep Paralysis list. If interested see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASP-L/

[Anonymous]

There is a way to get out of paralysis: Concentrate on your energy. Channel your energy to one of your bodies. The flow of the energies will give you power to move.

[Dark Knight]

I don't like cutting pasting like this but I think this is very important and may affect a lot of people here. I had a weird experience Sunday night and so did Tayesin (Tayesin has been trying to help me with a few isolated things on the side). It's listed originally in the Astral Experiences forum under "Something VERY different!!!!!"


Hi All,
I had the most interesting experiences yesterday and last night so I decided to share them with you. It is a bit long but interesting anyway. So here goes........

Monday 29 September 2003.

Approximately 5 to @ 6 pm.(AEST)

While online I got a tightening sensation that signifies to me some sort of presence or communication. I tried to block it with a screening method but it only dulled and did not stop completely. So I opened to it and asked to be shown who or what was attempting to communicate with me, at first I could see the eyes of a typical alien, who said, "We are ready to work with you now, you must project to us in order to meet." I agreed that I would do it that night and expected the communication feeling to end, but it did not. Again I opened to see who was there and saw a man about 45 to 50 with dark hair who said, "Why are you interferring with what I am doing?" I answered, " I am only trying to help those who have asked for help." He then said, "You will lose, you're going down." Then he too left, I felt he was the man responsible for some of the psychic attacks that some forum members are having. The feeling of contact did not end there either, so someone else was in touch with me at some level. I did not have the freedom to pursue it any further as my daughter required my attention at the same time.

Today, 30th September I received a private message form a member of the Astral Pulse Forum who wanted to know if I had helped him to get out of body. I read the message and he said, "Sunday sep28 night (technically monday) around 3am eastern time. I met an entity that claimed to be you. It gave me lots of energy, helped me get out of body, and showed me some things that would be very hard to describe. I dont remember either of us having any form. We were more spread out. If that was you, can we do it again? It was more like sharing energy than you giving it to me. I produced the most energy I've produced in many months and gave some to you and whoever else was around. If that was you."

This seemed to answer the question of who else was in contact with me at that time, as I had checked on the world clock to see what time it would have been here and it was within the time-frame that I felt the communications happening.

So now back to the previous night..... I waited for the night when I would be able to give my full attention to the first contactee. At 9:15 pm my time, I sat and began to prepare to journey out and see what the Alien wanted from me. One of my Guides came and said, "We do not have time for that, we are late already. Just project your awareness, let's go." I did as he suggested and was soon approaching the largest 'ship' I have ever seen, it was massive, about the size of the first ships depicted in the movie "Independence Day".

I wanted to check it out but had no time for frivolities ! My guide led me in and the first thing I noticed was a human male dressed in a uniform who bowed to us. I questioned why a human was aboard this ship and was told, "This is a Federation Ship, there are all kinds on-board." We quickly moved on to something I would describe as an elevator, and entered it while my Guide said he would wait for me to return. The elevator rose at phenomenal speed and very quickly came to a stop, the door(s) opened and there waiting for me was a tall, pale-grey Alien who telepathically said, "Come with me, we are ready for you now." And he led me to what looked like a normal office type board room, with oval table and chairs all around it. One other being was waiting and he refused to speak with me, I got the feeling from him that he was not particularly friendly to us humans.

I waited just a couple of seconds and then heard my name called, and noted also that it is not the name I have in my current life. One wall of the room slid open to reveal a huge auditorium sized room, circular in shape, with seating around the outside and what appeared to be a gigantic round table in the middle. I heard, "Please take your seat", and immediately knew what seat was mine, I could see it clearly, as if I had sat there many times before. I made my way around the circle to my seat and calmly sat while waiting for the meeting to start. It was extremely quiet, except for my thoughts. I was reminded to screen my thoughts as it was like I was yelling out in the room !! I tried to do so, while the meeting started.

A being from a race that I had seen once during my first kundalini awakening stood up and approached the table at the same time that an approximately thirty foot diameter hologram of Earth appeared above the table. What took my attention was the thousands of red dots all over the globe. The being who had stood up began to communicate to the gathering, explaining that the red dots indicated where the underground/undersea bases existed for the Reptilian's. And that their plans for processing the human inhabitants was well advanced. This meeting was to find a way to deal with the threat that would not cause an escalation in hostilities.

One being suggested simply attacking and destroying the Dark Forces, but that was answered with, "Should we choose that option, the Reptilians will respond with a full-force attack upon that world and us. We do not have sufficient numbers here as yet to deal with that kind of situation." Another being asked, " Could we not destroy them one ship at a time when we see them ?" And the answer was, "That action will provoke them to a full-scale attack also. What we do to deal with this situation must be very well planned and not make any provocations." Then I was asked to stand and give the message that I had received four years ago when talking with a Reptilian emissary at a place I call the high ground. I did as they had asked and took my seat again.

The meeting continued. I learned that these Reptilians were actively working at bringing about the Armageddon scenario as described in the Bible, that they were also actively involved in producing some large Earthquakes around the planet and that they are here in massive numbers.....although the larger main force is on standby within our Solar System in 'cloaked ships'.

Then I was told that my services would not be needed for the remainder of the planning session and I could return to my world. I left and met with the tall pale grey one who spoke with me about a number of things that are happening in my life and left me with one overriding thought as we reached the elevator. He said, "Remember this.", then gave me a huge input of pure Loving energy while saying to my mind that I must remember this is my weapon. I then entered the elevator for the quick trip down and found my Guide waiting as he said he would. We returned to my place and I spent some time talking with my Primary higher-self Guide to ensure that I understood what was going on in my life and to know that I am strong enough to deal with the dark-haired man who had threatened me during the earlier communications.

Elapsed time, 35 minutes.

Told you it was different hay, LOL

Love Always. Tayesin.
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[Dark Knight] I responded with the following below:


I've got to add something to what Tayesin has said.

For those of you who are not familiar with me, I'm an OBE grey contactee. I had plans for writing a book of my own with regards to empathic healing and awareness. Well, that went out the window when I fell under psychic attack and demonic possession...I believe by the entity Tayesin describes. That was five years ago and still going. Tayesin is getting ready to try to see what is happening to me since everything I pick up is Neg influenced and unreliable. He works through MSN Messenger. As I was downloading it Sunday, US Eastern Standard Time, my hard drive suddenly, physically crashed. I was already annoyed because I knew it was going to have to pay to get it fixed ($233, a fortune for me right now if you knew what's happened to me). Apparently more was going to happen later than night.

Sunday night/Monday morning US Eastern Standard Time, I believe the greys tried to pick me up. Got the usual buzzing in my skull that comes whenever they come. It was stopped because I woke up, (or something forced me awake, not sure). They wanted me to go with them... they also wanted me to speak with another contactee that was allegedly there. I said, "No, I'm not going to do this. My brain is all screwed up from all the Neg enforced channeling, brain washing, manipulation, etc. Every time I have contact, it's Neg tainted and very hard to unravel/remove." I told them if they wanted to talk to me they would have to go see Tayesin and speak to him first.