Question: Does anyone know about life at the edge of the Solar System? Like Pluto and Neptune, and other planetoids? Something seems to be going on out there.
I ask because I was trying a new method of telepathy the other day and got a strange 'response'. I wasn't sure whether the response was reliable, because the new method was risky. I asked about the planet Nibiru - nothing specific, I just wanted any info because I've had a lot of dreams about a red, dangerous planet nearing Earth. All my life I've had those dreams, and now I wanted to know if it's the same planet Sitchin translated out of the ancient texts.
A response said the red object is "a planet from Nibiru", which confused me. It might have meant 'a moon from Nibiru' (sometimes telepathic messages interpret oddly as words), or perhaps a planet belonging to the inhabitants of Nibiru, or maybe 'Nibiru' was always a name for 'Sirius' while the red planet had a different name. Either way, I wanted to know more.
I asked the question again and got a new response. I was mentally flown to the edge of the Solar System, and there's was this blue haze out there. In the middle of the haze was a dark planet, and numerous space stations. Machinery everywhere, space craft hangars, war crafts, everything very active.
I came back and wasn't sure what to think. I was using telepathy while awake, so I was less certain about it than when I'm in a trance. Imagination can get in the way more easily. There was something familiar about this hazy area of space, however. I've seen it in other dreams. There was always a fight going on there, with crafts blasting each other. I was even in the cockpit of one
Then I remembered Pluto, which is out there at the edge. I've seen it before in a trance state - I saw a dissection of the planet http://zareste.blogspot.com/2009/03/interior-of-ex-planet.html where the inside has a very secure living area, and the surface had dome-covered cities, again very secure. It was clearly very inhabited and used almost like a star ship. A voice said there was a war on the planet, and the inhabitants were beginning to lose. Again with the war at the edge of the Solar System.
This was intriguing, so I looked for more info telepathically. I asked what my relation is to this fight and maybe the inhabitants of Pluto. Funny question, I guess. The answer was "third officer".
That sounded pretty outrageous. Some kind of military rank, apparently. I said something like "What?" and got an unclear response. Among the information, a voice said "your insignia" which is a word I'm unfamiliar with. I looked up 'insignia' and the definition says "a badge or distinguishing mark of military rank, office, or membership of an organization; an official emblem."
Now I remember numerous dreams I've had of the inside of a space station that didn't appear to be anywhere near Earth. There were war crafts inside, and I remembered computer interfaces and plans. I remembered how I've had this instinctive knowledge of the Solar System's planets and comets as long as I've lived, often seeing them in books and thinking those NASA pictures don't justify how alive and active the planets are. And I always had this nagging urge to 'go back to space'
So I'm searching all over the web for clues about Pluto before I speculate too much. I've seen one account where a person saw the buildings on Pluto and some glowing humanoids, but that's it so far.
Or maybe it was a planet from the Star System 'Nibiru' ?
Yeah it's possible there's a star system called 'Nibiru', (assuming 'Nibiru' isn't an alias for Sirius) but we've named all the stars within 50,000 or so light-years and it would seem more proper to tell me the human name for the star system. So, all things considered, I ruled that out
Good luck finding anything relevant. NASA and the government like to keep all of this above top secret.
Perhaps you remote viewed the planet similar to how Ingo Swann and others can. I have been practicing remote viewing for a while now but it's not easy...
Oho I'm never worried about cover-ups. There's always some way to get the information.
I'm not much of a remote viewer, but perhaps (by some stretch) this voice is right that I'm an officer in the defensive force, and have easier access to the information base.
I did hear (somewhere) there's a vortex in Pluto, so perhaps it's the key entry point to the Solar System. Invading forces seem to focus on it.
Your purpose on this planet(earth) is to gather support for the war raging on Pluto/neptune?
How does one sign up for it? Or is it restricted to members of the native race?
I sure hope not. Heck, I've spent much of my life hating the Solar System's establishment. I always wished I could be from a more intelligent and natural civilization, not the defensive forces of this crummy solar system.
I got the feeling I escaped to here without much purpose, but I have to look into that as well
They might take you if you're a good enough psychic, but we Earthlings aren't the pick of the litter in that respect
So it's a psychic battle? Shucks, I ain't much for that: if it was physical, that would be another story.
Why did you spent much of your life hating the Solar System's establishment? Do you believe that the Solar system is badly managed? By a corrupted govt. or maybe the races in the system are, to you, primitive etc?
Who do you think is attacking the solar system? And why?
I see. There's the possibility you ran out of patience, motivation etc therefore, you decided the war was not in your plans anymore but those aliens think you still have a service to fulfill.
Yeah, I feel for you. I also mourn the loss of stars. Somewhere out there, while I'm typing this, is discovering the ruins of a fabled Alien Species. Somewhere out there, is taking down a corrupted empire.
Ah.. the sufferings of being on a 3rd world planet.
Oh, it's pretty physical, (with the crafts and all) but my impression of interstellar warfare is that undeveloped psychics tend to do badly, and could theoretically stunt a mission because they're easily manipulated.
I always hated the establishment because, well, see where Kurty mentions the government/NASA cover-ups? That's driven mostly by established forces, not humans alone. They consider facts and knowledge to be reserved for themselves and kept away from commoners. And I could go on and on about their 'population control' and the way they govern reincarnation cycles in a hierarchist fashion. I do consider them stupid on a cosmic scale.
The reason for attack... I can only speculate on that too. There are lots of fights in this area of the galaxy, so this could range from scuffling for resources to interstellar fueds. I gather that much of our establishment originates from Pleiades, and perhaps the invaders are more at war with Pleiadians than us.
I got the feeling a lot of people in the fight had dispersed, leaving the more stubborn to continue fighting. Although (assuming any of this is true) it might have been dumb to incarnate in a solar system that's about to be overthrown.
Anyone out there good with long-distance remove viewing? I just got the impression that there are numerous planets beyond Neptune that aren't on record (not including known trans-neptunian objects). I saw a collection of them
I've shown a little bit of improvement in the past few months.
Quote from: zareste on November 29, 2009, 00:53:04
Anyone out there good with long-distance remove viewing? I just got the impression that there are numerous planets beyond Neptune that aren't on record (not including known trans-neptunian objects). I saw a collection of them
If it is of any significant size and reflects light we would have seen it by now. Unless it gets closer like a planet x sort of trajectory our solar system is pretty accurate.
'we' do not have an all-seeing eye, so the question stands
No but if it is a planet it WILL reflect light, and even xrays etc. We can see stuff and monitor hundreds of thousands of objects. By now we'd see it if it were of any significant size. UNLESS like I said it has a highly elliptical orbit. We now have the scopes to spot this stuff and gravity equations. There are no more stable orbit planets larger than pluto in this system. Hell even the Sumerians confirmed that.
What if the planet had a long elliptical orbit, reaching our inner solar system every 3600 years. And what if the area of space it is currently in now has a much higher vibrational frequency than the space containing our current solar system. Therefore, such a planet would not reflect light, in fact it would be completely invisible until it orbits closer to earth (2012). Just a theory...
that's possible too. There are black stars and chances are there are black planets as well.
Quote from: lonecrow66 on December 10, 2009, 16:33:03
No but if it is a planet it WILL reflect light, and even xrays etc. We can see stuff and monitor hundreds of thousands of objects. By now we'd see it if it were of any significant size. UNLESS like I said it has a highly elliptical orbit. We now have the scopes to spot this stuff and gravity equations. There are no more stable orbit planets larger than pluto in this system. Hell even the Sumerians confirmed that.
Again, you (and whoever else is 'we') are not omniscient. Deal with it.
Quote from: zareste on December 10, 2009, 17:54:59
that's possible too. There are black stars and chances are there are black planets as well.
I can't wait to come back here in 2013 and see if I am right about any of this stuff. :-)
Quote from: zareste on December 10, 2009, 17:54:59
that's possible too. There are black stars and chances are there are black planets as well.
Again, you (and whoever else is 'we') are not omniscient. Deal with it.
We are oh.. lets just say the hundreds of thousands of astronomers and scientists that actually put the time in looking and cataloging all the objects out there. For the last hundred years or so now. Or the hundreds of probes launched..
How much time have you put in on a telescope?
Quote from: lonecrow66 on December 13, 2009, 18:59:19
We are oh.. lets just say the hundreds of thousands of astronomers and scientists that actually put the time in looking and cataloging all the objects out there. For the last hundred years or so now. Or the hundreds of probes launched..
How much time have you put in on a telescope?
The problem still stands that to discover these things, you have to be looking at the right part of the sky at the right time.
Small chances there. :)
Not really. With pretty primitive scopes we've spotted everyting including pluto. Thousands upon thousands dare I say hundres of thousands of asteroids have been spotted as well.
Like I said unless its highly elliptical we've already found them all.
Thousands and thousands (or even hundreds of thousands) of asteroids... out of trillions?
Drop in the bucket. ;)
If you really think about it... we've found nothing.
Really, we've been lucky to find what we have considering what is actually flying around out there.
Ah, good to see some sense here. Pluto and Neptune were both discovered mathematically - Pluto by accident, in fact. The further an object is from Earth, the less of the sky it takes up, and any decent astronomer knows that the chances of randomly aiming a telescope at the sky and spotting an object like Pluto are one in trillions. They say Saturn probably has moons we haven't found yet.
I'm still looking for these supposed planets I saw. I seem to have this convenient access to a telepathic star map when I want, but it's a little hard to verify what I see.
Apollo gives out free abundant energy day in day out and doesn't ask you for anything so when thinking about this crummy solar system maybe you should take a few things on board.
Satan has a planet full of beautiful men and women who are free to believe what they like, Do you NO
Apollo has a solar system full of planets teaming with life on many planes that travel through billions of parallel universe as they orbit the sun making this dream seem more solid, Do you NO
its very easy to call cone head an idiot and Satan a prat but you must see they are doing a much better job of supporting life than you are so how about a little respect.
a few hundred years ago we were all worshiping pots and pans and bonking each other on the head with sticks
could you advance a civilisation to space travel in such a short period of time, Could you?
every thing you know they know and have done for a long time and its good of them to let you work it out on your own.
And finally Good luck with the whole king of your mind thing I hope your sovereignty is not undermined by water fat complacent Peon's
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If you do some researching look up Hercolubus, it is apparently very similar to what is referred to as planet x or Nibiru, although it is stated that this planet is actually called the Bernard Star by astronomers.
I have been seeing spheres of blue / yellow / red / orange energy appearing around me at incredible rates for the past couple of days. I would say I see about 100+ spheres an hour (pretty wild!).
I should start a new line of T-shirts (something that might actually sell! :lol:) with vaguely unknown verbiage... "Dear Lord, Please Deliver the 3 Days of Darkness!" :lol: I could put folded hands on the back, with an "Amen" :lol: Or "Planet X -- Life Happens!" "Red Dwarf 2080, Not Some Cheap Liquor!" :-D
I continue to see more and more of outer space. All sorts of 3d visuals and graphs, galaxy formations, up-close visuals of stars and the layers within them. I'm more convinced that I keep accessing a system with all this information
I figure, it only makes sense that there are planets and planetoids in the Solar System that are not commonly known. Probably a lot of Planet X's. It doesn't interest me as much anymore. Although it would be nice to know if I'm part of some space-army
Quote from: zareste on January 27, 2010, 06:27:42
I figure, it only makes sense that there are planets and planetoids in the Solar System that are not commonly known. Probably a lot of Planet X's. It doesn't interest me as much anymore. Although it would be nice to know if I'm part of some space-army
In our solar system!? How many planets are we talking about here...? Do you think that they might be 4th density planets?
I don't think I'm part of a space army but who knows. I recently had an encounter while out of body with two members from my group. We were above earth in orbit when three ships approached. One being from each ship got out and slowly started approaching us. The man in the center turned to my teacher and talked to him about something for a moment, then he turned his attention to me.
He said, 'You are unlike the rest, you are quite powerful indeed.' I scratched my head and said something like 'oh yea..?'. He told me that my power level is very high for someone so young and that I have great potential. He then asked me if the three of us whould help him with something. I said, 'only if my friends and I can have a tour of your ship.' He agreed and we walked (floated) back to his ship and my body was overcome by gravitational waves of powerful energy and I was sent back to my physical body.
Just ordinary planets, I'm sure. Maybe there's a lot of action going on out there, and groups only stop by the inner planets for resources or something. The outer solar system seemed active when I saw it.
If I am some kind of interstellar officer, it isn't doing me much good and I'm not all that gifted, but it would be nice to know.
There's another thing I wanted to find out. In a trance state once, I saw Earth in its very early days - lifeless - and then there was this female spirit who appeared over the atmosphere and did something to Earth's fields. It somehow made the planet inhabitable for plants. Like some kind of field adjustment can cause life to form on a planet over time - I guess the ambient modulations can create DNA. She seemed to act independently and on her own will - no accompanying crafts or anything. And something about her just blew my circuits. I couldn't pick up any impure intentions from her. Nothing at all. She wasn't one of those evil creators we read about in the religious texts.
Incidentally, the earliest records of gods or great spirits (drawn by cave dwellers) cited an independent female Earth spirit. No sign of our current male tyrant gods until later.
I figured, if anyone could solve Earth's crisis, surely it was this spirit
I tried to contact her, and I seemed to have gotten her, although she didn't act like the pure spirit I remembered. We were together in a dimly lit, blue room. All she did was look at a holograph of Earth and say "Looks like you've been causing trouble." When she said 'you' she meant humanity. So, this was either a nasty spirit posing as her, or perhaps I was right in assuming everything in the universe has a rotten side to it. The trance was very short and I didn't have any luck contacting her since
There was one brief trance where I think I heard her name. It was Duplana. I looked up the name and noticed it's also the name of a plant
Quotemale tyrant gods
Well thats not quite accurate, managing Gods yes, if they were tyrants we wouldnt have as many chances as we currently have had to change our ways.
The female spirit part sounds a little more convincing as the nurturing forces are of a femanine nature, plus this would coincide with the idea of Mother Nature.
But still... unless you have developed an objective perception you run the risk of believing your own mistaken perception which could be subjective entirely.
Interesting Flash game (well not really a game) that I just came across, strangely enough...
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/525347
Quote from: zareste on January 27, 2010, 09:12:15
I tried to contact her, and I seemed to have gotten her, although she didn't act like the pure spirit I remembered. We were together in a dimly lit, blue room. All she did was look at a holograph of Earth and say "Looks like you've been causing trouble." When she said 'you' she meant humanity. So, this was either a nasty spirit posing as her, or perhaps I was right in assuming everything in the universe has a rotten side to it. The trance was very short and I didn't have any luck contacting her since
Just blame it on the reptilians! :-D
Quote from: Xanth on January 27, 2010, 15:41:04
Interesting Flash game (well not really a game) that I just came across, strangely enough...
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/525347
That's pretty sick how gigantically huge galaxies are. It would take me a million years just to explore one.
Quote from: Optic on January 27, 2010, 15:39:53Well thats not quite accurate, managing Gods yes, if they were tyrants we wouldnt have as many chances as we currently have had to change our ways.
A tyrant is someone who controls by force. I can't make this any simpler for you
Do you think that these higher dimensional beings ever step in from time to time to check up on the planets that they created?
In another post you mentioned that the only aliens you have ever read or heard about are emotionless fear mongering condescending humanoid drones, who don't show any emotions and seem totally unconcerned with the well-being of lowly humans. Why do you think that there are so few civilizations out there that are 'emotional'? I for one laugh all the time :lol: which is perhaps why they are so interested in us.
QuoteDo you think that these higher dimensional beings ever step in from time to time to check up on the planets that they created?
Hmm, wish I were more of an expert on these big-shot spirits. I'll bet it varies wildly from one to the other, as age tends to make a person more distinguished and less hive-minded.
Joseph McMoneagle did a remote viewing into the past, and reported a being who created one of the hominid types that led to the modern human. The being was a very old reptiloid (no great spirit by any means) who showed up on Earth, spliced a few genes together to create a sort of primate/otter hybrid, then left, reportedly with no intention of coming back or checking up. He didn't elaborate much on this.
I wouldn't say all off-world life is emotionless or fear-mongering at all. That's why I can tell the Zetans and co. apart from all the others. There are PLENTY of humanoids around here (even grey-types) who are at least as capable of emotion as we are. I've met them. So when people keep reporting humanoids who appear different but all have the same nasty personality and agenda, I can tell there's trouble - a deception created by one force pretending to be many.
As one of these humanoids so ironically said during an abduction, "You judge by appearance."
Quote from: zareste on January 28, 2010, 00:19:05
Hmm, wish I were more of an expert on these big-shot spirits. I'll bet it varies wildly from one to the other, as age tends to make a person more distinguished and less hive-minded.
Joseph McMoneagle did a remote viewing into the past, and reported a being who created one of the hominid types that led to the modern human. The being was a very old reptiloid (no great spirit by any means) who showed up on Earth, spliced a few genes together to create a sort of primate/otter hybrid, then left, reportedly with no intention of coming back or checking up. He didn't elaborate much on this.
Yea.. Well, like I said above, Galaxies are quite large and it may take a while for someone to visit a planet that they created 900 million years ago. I think it would be rather exciting to create a planet and bring some people to it. Then you can jump through time and watch them devlope.
Have you ever read about Billy Meier and his telepathtic communications with Pleiadians? It is really unbelievable, he has over 20 images of some of the best UFOs I have ever seen and some of the best information regarding the Pleiadians.
The Pleiadians told Meier that many earth humans are related to them through common ancient ancestors or to other extraterrestrial visitors from the far distant past. The case contains quite a bit of specific information about the ET connection as well as why gentic manipulation was deliberelty done by some ET's to limit the Earth humans' life span to about 100 years. The Pleiadians claim that the original lengthy life spans of several hundred years, as referred to in the Bible and other sources, will one day be reclaimed when scientists discover and rectify the particular genes that were tampered with.
I rarely go into these areas, it's all unprovable crap, but here we go:
Steiner talks about 2 different types of beings that influence our evolution. He used the terms "Luciferic" and "Ahrimanic", which to me seem similar to "Reptilians" and "Greys". The Luciferic beings are the ones which helped bring about a "spark" in humanity, helped us create civilization & order, & on the opposite side, war. Ahrimanic beings help bring us into the material world, influence our creations of technology, and when overdone, keep us from knowing anything other than the material world. Steiner was adamant that the Ahrimanic influence in our society was too much, brought about by societies like the Theosophical Society. Both beings play crucial roles, yet are only supposed to to a certain extent.
Both of these types of beings are ones that didn't make it past their last level of evolution (moon) (possibly us, or another order of beings), and in the process of being held back were given tasks of spurring on humanity's evolution. And at times during the course of evolution, things become unbalanced and influences from either side become too much. It makes sense to me that these "Greys" are Ahrimanic beings and have taken on the form of outer space aliens because that fits in perfect with our technology & science, and even science fiction, and getting us to believe that they have more power than they do, or even that they are our creators.
This is where Steiner talks about the "Representative of Humanity", a part of humanity into which we're all to evolve to that acts as a balancing point between the conflicting influences of other evolutionary beings on humanity. This is where humans should be focused, not on the seemingly outer influences, but our inner influences in our selves that imbue spirit into the physical. That's something these beings only wish they could do themselves.
Feel free to ignore or regard as complete fiction, I'm not here to tell anyone what is correct or that they are wrong, just throwing in a different perspective.
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on January 28, 2010, 09:00:38The Pleiadians told Meier that many earth humans are related to them through common ancient ancestors or to other extraterrestrial visitors from the far distant past. The case contains quite a bit of specific information about the ET connection as well as why gentic manipulation was deliberelty done by some ET's to limit the Earth humans' life span to about 100 years. The Pleiadians claim that the original lengthy life spans of several hundred years, as referred to in the Bible and other sources, will one day be reclaimed when scientists discover and rectify the particular genes that were tampered with.
I've heard a thing or two about that. Some humanoids said we age faster because of the oxygen in our blood (meaning anti-oxidants are crucial). They also said they had a cure - but the guy who was hearing all this forgot to ask about it. ffffff
Humans are quite a cocktail of genes. Some of our ancestors were humanoids who crash-landed here, such as an exceedingly advanced race that made an emergency landing in India some millions of years ago. (If the story is accurate, they're smarter than anyone in this galaxy, and were a major contributor to our genes)
Quote from: zareste on January 29, 2010, 05:09:59
I've heard a thing or two about that. Some humanoids said we age faster because of the oxygen in our blood (meaning anti-oxidants are crucial). They also said they had a cure - but the guy who was hearing all this forgot to ask about it. ffffff
Well... I dunno about you but I plan on getting my old 700 year old body back! Hopefully I can find a nice group of aliens to perform the procedure. Then I can introduce them to a couple of nice earth women! :-D
Quote from: zareste on January 27, 2010, 21:56:11
A tyrant is someone who controls by force. I can't make this any simpler for you
"In the exact sense, a tyrant is an individual who arrogates to himself the royal authority without having a right to it. This is how the Greeks understood the word 'tyrant': they applied it indifferently to good and bad princes whose authority was not legitimate."
My post was in regards to that type of tyrant, in that case it would be hard to judge whether the God is truly a tyrant in that context because they might just be carrying out a natural operation which is neccessary for the God to perform within the laws of nature. But to our subjective perception we may see the God as a tyrant in the negative sense because of our not being able to negotiate with the operations being carried out. Well we cannot truly perceive every operation that takes place without our consent to be considered a tyranny! Especially when we are discussing superior forces or operations.
A God who manages a planet, manages in the sense of keeping it in harmony with all the forces of nature in order to function correctly, this God cannot be considered a tyrant, but rather an intelligent principle intelligently managing the forces of creation in order to keep balance and harmony. This type of God does not do anything selfishly but does what is needed in order keep forces in balance and within the laws of nature karma included!
If you say so! :lol:
Just a small development: Earlier, I mentioned seeing a planet while looking for Nibiru - and saw one that was surrounded by a blue haze and many machines. I realized, just now, that the blue haze is nothing unusual - in fact Earth has one. We just don't see it
For a long time I had my usual flights through space, and whenever I saw Earth, I saw it as a bright little planet inside a glowing blue cloud. The blue cloud was not the atmosphere, but a thick and uneven cloud about twice the diameter of Earth. I later found out this is the 'plasmasphere' http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&um=1&ei=m_dtS6rANpPSNISOsd0E&sa=X&oi=spell_reissue&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=plasmasphere&spell=1&start=0 The plasmasphere is normally invisible to us because it's ultraviolet. Sure enough, the plasmasphere is uneven, cloudy, and its color would appear similar to blue if your eyes were able to see it.
So that just means a blue haze around a TNO planet is nothing odd. Perhaps it's necessary to the life systems.
Anyone ever astral project into space? It's creepy, looking into that darkness and realizing it's billions of miles in volume
Yep, always freaks me out if I think about it, but not as much as going to the boundary of this space/time and looking from the edge toward the anti de-Sitter space it's expanding into.
Try heading to the sun first, then circling around it and keeping your "eyes" (and senses) peeled outward. Should not be difficult to locate the planet. Don't look for it on the ecliptic.
Quote from: zareste on February 07, 2010, 14:56:47
Anyone ever astral project into space? It's creepy, looking into that darkness and realizing it's billions of miles in volume