Urgent- I can't watch her suffer anymore, help-

[The AlphaOmega]

That sounds bad.  I would hate to have such horrible headaches like she does.  Doctors are funny because they are expected to be trusted.  The word of a doctor can always been depended on, right?  Well, after some surgeries and some research I've learned that a second or third opinion can make all the difference.  Where one doctor knows nothing, another doctor may have an answer.  I have a friend who is bipolar, and they give him every pill in the book for it.  I honestly believe that it's all the pills he's on now that's making him so messed up.  Don't get her on mood medication.  Headache medication is different though.  I also have a friend who has frequent migraines.  Sometimes she blacks out from them and always she gets incredibly sick because the pain is so intense.  She takes a tiny but powerful perscription pill and she says it does wonders.  It's not a pain killer, it does something like thin her blood for better circulation, or something.  Anyways, I'd get second opinions from other doctors.  The worst that can happen is that she remains where she is now.  As far as negetive entities causing it, I don't know much about those things.  Someone else will have to help you in that area.  Robert Bruce has a book called "psychic self defense", maybe that will help.  You could also e-mail him.  Good luck!

[lullabi]

http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/p020848.html

[CRIMINALMIND63]

Just wondering does she take birth control pills? I did for about 3 months and got migraines.

[Dark Knight]

I get frequent headaches...like the one I got this morning.

Problem is, this is one case where I really don't know what is happening. She could have headaches and be bipolar or she could could also be under attack. Yeah, my perps manipulate my emotions, blocking some, filling me with others they want me to feel. It can alter or severely influence your perception of reality. I would advise finding someone who can AP and look about your girlfriend for any hooks or attachments, no point in freaking her in the event it really is just a medical thing. I would be cautious of happy pills, but I would check into headache medication. What is her diet like? Does she drink a lot of coffee, caffeine? If so, maybe cutting down would help.

[garomes]

I had a really sudden terrible headache accompanied by a darkening of peripheral vision last night at my girlfriend's house.  I took aspirin and some much stronger stuff later on but none of it helped even a little bit.  My girlfriend's parent's then followed the advice of a friend of her parent's and massaged the little meaty area between the thumb and pointer finger.  The headache went away instantly and I was fine the rest of the night except a little sick to my stomach from the medicine, I think, since I took it with no food.

I'm not sure if it's the same kind of headache but you could try this for the headache pain, anyway.

[garomes]

Shoot. I forgot to say to make sure it's on the same side as the headache, she did it to the other side first and it just hurt my hand a little.

[shedt]

It sounds like a migraine too me, esp. the part where the light makes it worse! But it could some sort of attack. Being aware that it could be helps. When I was in high school i used to be emotional. After though i found that just knowing something could be influencing me helped. I'm not going too say it is this or that, but there are alot of things that could cause headaches too. does she drink coffee ?

I would suggest that she drinks more water, spends less time on a computer (if she uses one alot) and just relaxes after a long day.

[CRIMINALMIND63]

Buy a rose quartz. It helps to take the pain away. I have used this several times. It really works. If it doesn't I would say it might be a medical problem.

[widfis]

Hey-
I really appreciate all the replies so quickly!  From the looks of it, it could be a lot of things.  Yea she drinks quite a bit of coffee.....and yea she's on birth control pills...The doctors told her that it probably wouldnt be a tumor or anything because she gets headaches in different spots.  I'm going to try to get her to drink more water and less coffee, as I'm sure it would help at least something if not her headaches.  The massaging her hand like that is very intriguing, and something I'm going to have to try...same with the rose quartz.  

For some reason though I just can't shake the feeling that shes got neg attachments...Throughout highschool this girl has had really tough times and even felt suicidal at one point or another.  Apparently she has been getting better over the course of the year past but I still feel like something never did fit quite right...

Again, I really appreciate the suggestions but I don't know anyone in real life that AP's so is there any other way of maybe testing for attachments?

[Anonymous]

Hey Widfis- Give acupuncture a shot. It may take several visits, or visits over a prolonged period of time, but trust me, it's worth a shot. If nothing else, it will balance her qi. At least it's better than paying $80 for 2 minutes in a hospital, at which the doctor asks you questions, checks things off on a chart, doesn't even touch you, and tells you to have a nice day.

Does your girlfriend ever say anything about her headaches? Does she feel presences or anything? It could also be epilepsy. She may experience memory loss during the episodes if this is so. There are different kinds of epilepsy, not just the ones that make people convulse. My girlfriend has a form of epilepsy that causes her memory loss. Another of my friends gets seizures and headaches so bad I've seen him cry. You might want to look into having doctors do an E.E.G. if you haven't already.

[greatoutdoors]

This sounds like migraine headaches. Does she get an upset stomach with the headache? Also with migraines (and tension headaches as well) it isn't uncommon to see "sparkles", sometimes well before the headache actually starts. On this subject I am an expert - at least by experience.

Whether she is bipolar or not has little or nothing to do with the headaches. Her body (yes, hormones) is changing and developing. That alone can cause the symptoms you describe. Then she adds birth control pills to the mix -- not designed to balance a system already in disorder. Then throw in the caffine, which makes things even worse. Over time her mood swings and headaches should decrease in intensity. But in the meantime there are steps she can take.

An herb called Feverfew, taken as a tea, is a very effective remedy for migraines. It is best to take it as soon as she even thinks she might get a headache. The sooner you take it before an attack, the more effective it will be. Secondly, over the counter drugs such as Advil can help, again if taken early on. Another option that can be effective (as has already been suggested) are the prescription drugs her doctor can give her. The hand massage mentioned by garomes can also help -- in some cases it does just stop the pain!

As to the mood swings, you can encourage her to pursue meditation and relaxation -- hypnosis can be a pretty big help. But for the most part, that is something she will just have to suffer through, and it can last a very long time.

IMHO, she is not dealing with Negs, but with a very natural, physical process of maturing. The joys of being female...[xx(]

[shaman]

YEs, it sounds like migraines, it might run in the family... From some relatives I have seen that regular exercise (in this case bicycle) and a good diet (no heavy meal) and good sleep really helps a lot. There are also medications for that. Did she suffer from vertigos when she was a very young child? Or did she have once a viral meningitis (in early childhood, infant?)?

Anyhow, seeing more than one Doc would do and trying to keep in physical shape with good eating, exercising and sleeping habits would help.

You must know that strong light can in these cases hurt and give more headache. There are many conditions in which strong light might hurt and give headach, such as "vagotony", which is psychosomatic condition. That's not what she has of course, but I once had it for a few months, very long ago. ANyhow, take care of her! and good luck, happy holidays and happy new year!

[widfis]

Well I'm glad that the general consensus seems to be that her problems are not neg-related.  This is good because I really don't know a whole lot about negs.  I really should get her to try the acupuncture as it's always intrigued me and it'd be cool if someone I knew actually tried it.  Maybe this really does just have more to do with her developing, but if it does, then she is the ultimate form of the bad side effects of developing hormones.  I will definitely look into that feverfew as I have always been an advocate of medicinal herbs.  
If anyone has any sort of input still I have been appreciating all of the thought!

[Dark Knight]

You don't need to know someone personally on the spot who can AP, if you have MSN messenger, they can do it through that. I'd ask around the Astral Chat forum, the Astral Experiences forum and the Communications forum and see who might want to help. You have to ahve your girlfriend at Messenger at the time though.

[TheSeeker]

I don't think bipolar indicates a neg.  Anyway, I think it's the coffee, if I drink a lot of caffeine, either later that day, or the next day I get major headaches.  If excedrin helps her headaches, then that's what it is, because excedrin has caffeine in it, and will make her feel better.  

Also, drinking coffee and the like causes me to be bipolar, because I'll be excited and happy while it last, then when it wears away I get dark and depressed.

I would look for the simple explanation first before jumping to the conclusion that it's a neg.  I know it sounds cliche, but nothing stabalizes mood better than exercising and eating healthy, I speak from experience.

[CRIMINALMIND63]

I made a long post but lost it because my computer froze. I'll make this short. Does she smoke? If sshe does have her stop taking the pill it's dangerous I had a DR. tell me.

[James S]

Hi Widfis,

Headaches of this nature and intensity are a tricky subject. I would not take any one opinion, including that of a doctor, as being the gospel on the matter. Medical science as yet simply does not understand all the causes of headaches and migranes, and certainly hasn't got a handle on the cures. Because everybody has a slightly different physiology, the causes and cures that might be valid for one person, could be totaly wrong for another.

My sister-in-law suffered debilitating headaches for years, and all the doctors she'd seen were doing was to give her ever increasing doses of pain killers. It wasn't until she saw a naturopath who sought to look for the cause of the headaches that she got anywhere. Turns out she had deficiancies in certain minerals such as Zink and Magnesium, and she was reacting badly to certain foods she ate regularly. I also suffer fairly frequent sickening headaches, but in my case they're triggered by muscular tension in my neck, and aggrivated by caffine, saturated fats and MSG (you'd possibly be surprised how much of that crap is still in everyday food we eat).
Thought there are some common factors here - relating to food, the causes are totally different.

Bipolar disorder? I agree with Greatoutdoors here - I'm sorry but how does that relate to headaches? Apart from the fact that anybody would be feeling depressed after suffering like this for seven years!

Don't ever be afraid to go and get a second (or third or fourth) opinion if you don't feel that the doctor she's already seen doesn't have the answers. Though some GPs are very good, consider consulting a reputable naturopath - they're often more inclined to find the causes rather than just try to ease the symptoms. They don't get kickbacks from the drug companies for a start, and many naturopaths started out as GPs, but have decided to expand the diagnostic and treatment resources available to them. Don't settle for a doctor that just looks to treat the pain, find one that will get to the root cause and treat it.

Also continue to look to more down to earth causes and cures before reaching towards the "supernatural" for an answer.

Please pass on our best wishes to your girlfriend. We all hope that she is able to be rid of these headaches, and soon.

All the best to you both,
James.

[CRIMINALMIND63]

James posted my thoughts on how everyone body is affecte differently by drugs. Also no one seemed to mention. a withdrawal symptom is also headaches. If you are use to taking caffine by any measure and you go a day without it you will get a headache. I'm not sure what all drugs will cause headaches when you stop them.

[widfis]

Smoking is bad with birth control?  Is this tobacco or marijuana you are referring to?  She doesnt smoke anything, I guess I'm just interested to hear that.

And I would agree that our bodies are amazingly affected by what we consume.  For instance whenever I would rub my nose skin would flake off...I told my dermatologist and he said i had a thaimin defficiency...I was like go figure!?  Hearing something as unsuspected as this kindof makes one want to convert to completely natural foods only.

On a side note she just started taking multi-vitamins.  Anyways I'm not incredibly sure what direction our relationship is headed but I suppose that is another story for another forum.

[bluelite]

hi widfis

I examined her condition psychically and although this condition seems serious it can be easily treated .

I would like to suggest that she give both left and right hands especially the fingers a gentle massage when she notices the first signs of the headache.

Also I would also suggest that she pays particular attention to what and how she uses her fingers and hands as they contain very delicate nerves that connect with numerous other sensitive nerves throughout the head and body .

[holy reality]

i'm getting really sick of this forum losing my replies...

okay, i think she needs to gradually wean herself off coffe, that's not helping any

if she takes pain killers more than like 3 times a week that isn't helping any either, as they kind of numb your pain receptors but when they finally go back to normal after increased exposure to pain killers they are a lot more sensitive to pain

i saw something on 2020 about people that would take them (as in tylenol/aspirin) everyday and it screwed them up so that they constantly have headaches no matter what they do, and they had to like become hsopitalized just to quit taking the pain killers in the first place.

[widfis]

You guys have some really interesting ideas!
I had no idea about the hand massage thing and no idea about the immunity to painkillers...I'm having her try both approaches.

It's kind of interesting I posted here looking for advice on how to fend off negs and I get a load of earthly, medical advice- I don't know a whole lot about negs but should I take the help I'm getting as a hint that negs really arent much of a problem in everyday life?

[Dark Knight]

Well, if you read Robert's book in a lot of ways they can be at varying levels.

He also talks about dealing with it with the proper attitude, if it's a symptom you can deal with on your own, do it, getting rid of the symtom will get rid of the neg if it's a cheesey, wimpy neg. If you wig out over something minor (not that headaches can't be a serious pain and have consequences...they do, but we have ways of dealing with it, a lot of ways), the chessey, wimpy neg will have all it needs to get you.

Be supportive of your girlfriend, help her out, and if the headaches are medical, doing some of this stuff might take care of it. If you try the medical stuff and it's not working, I'd still find someone who can AP and get a look at her to see if there are any attachments.

[CRIMINALMIND63]

It tobacco. I had a Dr. tell me and my sister to never take the pill because we both smoked. Look at the chemical break down of what's common between tobacco and caffine. She doesn't smoke but it still might help to find what's common to both.

[pyro4571]

look if its nothing else, it could possibly be that you are a psychic vampire and not even know about it. ask her if she gets the headachs at any other time besides when you are there. if she only gets them when u are around, then u may be a psi vamp. if this is the case first buy both of you some type of silver jewlery(silver helps stop energy flow) then you may also try this site www.llewllynjournal.com it has some helpful hints, have her meditate, and then try to strengthen her aura shield. there are many sites about psychic vampires, u should chech into it. please pm me if any of this advice touches on you 2 thanks.[]