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Title: We should all band together and fight back.
Post by: SunnyBlue on September 28, 2003, 19:55:16
I like this idea Enderwiggin,and even some of us that are not of the  warrior type could perhaps send healing energy and Loveing support,
Of course i would myself have to check out why the person is being bothered,i wrote this out(the paragraphs in an attached file,word format) years ago to help people being bothered,i like and am thankfull for Roberts Book, but maybe this might also shed some light on other means of defense.
L+L
Bruce



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Title: We should all band together and fight back.
Post by: beavis on September 28, 2003, 23:25:46
I dont usually fight negs because it makes them stronger.
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Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2003, 09:28:21
Hi Beavis.

Fighting negs doesn't necessarily make them stronger, it depends on the methods you use and the kind of negs they are.
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Post by: xander on September 29, 2003, 09:40:58
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Originally posted by EnderWiggin

Hi Beavis.

Fighting negs doesn't necessarily make them stronger, it depends on the methods you use and the kind of negs they are.



I used to think that fighting negs was bad and was even told by one that I shouldn't fight. This particular neg is powerful and has been with me since birth. You see my mother has several negs and when I was born one promised me to another and so it has considered me its property.

I currently slamdance the crap out of it about once a week. I'm getting better at doing ritual banishment, i find my anger really hurts it. I will fight it till it leaves or till the day I die. And even after death I shall beat teh crap out of it! I hate things that prey on children and the weak, therefore I must become strong so that I shall prey upon those entities which consider themselves predators!!! I shall devour them without mercy, I shall take joy in their screams of pain and confusion! I shall be that which they fear, that which they tell their young stories about! I shall be the beast which hides in their closets and benaeth their beds! I shall be the hunter and they the hunted!

Xander
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Post by: AurorisBoreala on September 29, 2003, 13:06:29
Well said, Ender.  There is no reason a man filled with a righteous Spirit can not stand up to evil and protect the innocent.  Indeed, if we who are able do not do so - who will?  

Do not be dismayed by nay-sayers and the neg-protectors and the cowards  - there are more people on the side of goodness and decency than you may realize.

Live in the truth of your Spirit and what you know to be right.
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Post by: Hephaestus on September 29, 2003, 14:09:41
*Begins to hear the song, 'fighting fire with fire'*
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Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2003, 14:15:25
I walk the walk, Mysteryninja. I've got a little hit list going. Criminalmind's attacker, Good Hope's attacker, and one other person. I'm not afraid of them and they have yet to do anything to me. I've had success with reducing attacks from Criminalmind's attacker. I've got a friend helping me too. I say we give them a fight they'll never forget. Maybe then they will learn that we are not going to sit back and take it. If invaders attacked your homeland, you'd fight back because otherwise you wouldn't exist. It's the same with negs. They try to invade, so we fight back.

Does anyone want me to help them fight their negs? My AIM screen name is Wafflemaster42. I like to coordinate and organize the attacks if possible, go in with a game plan. Help is welcomed. I prefer to be a last resort- DON'T FIGHT UNLESS NECESSARY. I follow a code of honor and I'd really like to get an idea of the scenario instead of just jumping right into it.

I recommend getting a kyanite crystal, as it is a limitless source of energy and does not harbor negative vibrations. This way you can fight your enemies better. It also can cut through astral matter. However, do not rely on anything but yourself. Learn to increase your stamina and form whatever weapons or devices you need out of your own energy. If you want tactics, I'll teach/describe them to you. You do not need to go to the astral to fight negs. Using your energy and visualizing it as one thing or another works for me (i.e. a sword, arrows flying at your enemy, balls of plasma, etc).
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Post by: Hephaestus on September 29, 2003, 14:18:35
quote:
Originally posted by xander

quote:
Originally posted by EnderWiggin

Hi Beavis.

Fighting negs doesn't necessarily make them stronger, it depends on the methods you use and the kind of negs they are.



I used to think that fighting negs was bad and was even told by one that I shouldn't fight. This particular neg is powerful and has been with me since birth. You see my mother has several negs and when I was born one promised me to another and so it has considered me its property.

I currently slamdance the crap out of it about once a week. I'm getting better at doing ritual banishment, i find my anger really hurts it. I will fight it till it leaves or till the day I die. And even after death I shall beat teh crap out of it! I hate things that prey on children and the weak, therefore I must become strong so that I shall prey upon those entities which consider themselves predators!!! I shall devour them without mercy, I shall take joy in their screams of pain and confusion! I shall be that which they fear, that which they tell their young stories about! I shall be the beast which hides in their closets and benaeth their beds! I shall be the hunter and they the hunted!

Xander



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Post by: beavis on September 29, 2003, 14:46:13
xander I hate things that prey on children and the weak, therefore I must become strong so that I shall prey upon those entities which consider themselves predators!!! I shall devour them without mercy, I shall take joy in their screams of pain and confusion! I shall be that which they fear, that which they tell their young stories about! I shall be the beast which hides in their closets and benaeth their beds! I shall be the hunter and they the hunted!

I prey on the weak. If I walk by a plant with berries, I might rip some berries off and eat them alive. I eat less intelligent animals than myself, like pigs and cows. I pay people to prey on them for me. I'm a real bastard and I deserve your wrath.

You probably meant those who prey on humans. Its ok to prey on the weak unless you are the weak, right?
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Post by: Mick on September 29, 2003, 17:17:35
I have been involved in this sort of stuff in the past and it has been effective but there are caveats. Not all such situations are simple one on one and I note that you plan to scope out the situation fully first which is obviously wise. I think that my few posts here suggest that using personal awareness comes first not just lashing out. I have come across a number of battling egos over time.

quote:
Originally posted by EnderWiggin


Why do people think it is wrong to fight negs? We aren't just going out and picking fights with them, we're defending ourselves from them and stopping them from attacking others. It's like seeing a mugger on a street assaulting someone. What are you going to do? Are you going to let the person be victimized or are you going to risk your own well-being to help them fight back? I for one am willing to risk my well-being for the well-being of others. Because I know that I would like someone to do the same for me if I were being attacked.


I think a little proactive defence is ideal, the turn the other cheek stuff has prevailed for too long and look where we are :) A priest that I know with whom i have attended exorcisms says much the same. I don't believe that attacking a neg makes them more powerful unless the energy is simply handed over which can be the case if just tossed at the neg.

quote:

I've been working with Criminalmind to help her fight her attacker. If he's so powerful then he would've attacked me by now. I've managed to affect him, to some degree and now he takes me seriously. He knows that he has only to stop attacking others and I'll leave him alone. I've given him that choice.


I think that often the neg simply has advantage over the victim rather than power. It has been able to establish links often over time and it looks like surprisingly little effort is required to exploit these.

Back to the caveat, as you have probably noted, not all such situations are simply one on one, the attacks may be by minions simply present at the will of a motivating entity. Dealing with the current minion (neg) simply makes space for the next to pop in. These minions may be entities only too pleased to have a role along with the food source it provides, they may be servitor type creations etc etc. Othertimes thought forms with the appearance of the perp but without the risks.

The underlying question is why some people appear to be targets for such attacks, the stated solutions are legion but one of my favourite is that some people are by these attacks suppressed at many levels. Why this should be required opens up another raft of conspiracy theories which could fill it's own forum :)
Another alternate is that this is one of those occasions when some major stuff is happening and what is being percieved in our space is a side effect. It goes on and on :)
We all hear suggestions frequently as to what is happening but often when put together they are in conflict which brings me to the new Forum request by Dark.

A beyond the established structures investigations including the review and correlation of the observations and suggested interpretations/solutions. The established structures such as Chakras are likely to help in some instances but there are negs that are not constrained to these structures and thinking out of the box is needed to evaluate in these cases.
Also there are times when I think that the actual events that we attempt to translate into physical terms are really quite removed from those terms so keeping fluid is important :)


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Post by: xander on September 29, 2003, 18:34:34
quote:
Originally posted by beavis


I prey on the weak. If I walk by a plant with berries, I might rip some berries off and eat them alive.



I was speaking of astral entities that prey on children and the weak. It was explicitly clear from what I wrote....wisen up!

Xander
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Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2003, 20:40:46
I adapt. That's how I am. I operate on no system. They all have weaknesses, so I don't use any system. I may take things from systems but that's it. Like Wu Hsin- The way of no way. That's how I fight. Imagination is key. Like Mick said, thinking out of the box.
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Post by: Hephaestus on September 30, 2003, 07:57:08
quote:
Originally posted by xander

quote:
Originally posted by beavis


I prey on the weak. If I walk by a plant with berries, I might rip some berries off and eat them alive.



I was speaking of astral entities that prey on children and the weak. It was explicitly clear from what I wrote....wisen up!

Xander



So you dont like astral beings that prey on the weak but you like human beings that prey on the weak.
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Post by: Metal Ice on September 30, 2003, 09:09:58
Enderwiggen,

How's it going?
Glad to see you back[:D]
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Post by: xander on September 30, 2003, 12:09:55
quote:
Originally posted by Hephaestus
So you dont like astral beings that prey on the weak but you like human beings that prey on the weak.



That's not what I said.

Xander
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Post by: Hephaestus on September 30, 2003, 13:11:47
Is this some kind of a Joke? There has been no misquoting made.

It was said by xander that he doesnt like beings that prey on the weak and they shall incur his wrath, beavis therefore said that he preys on the weak by eating animals so xander should show him his wrath, xander then said no he meant astral beings (which to me means xander dont mind humans preying on the weak) - therefore I wanted to get it cleared up by asking a question but its not been cleared up, all thats come of it is people making false accusations of misquoting.
This isnt the United Nations Criminal Court you know. (http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/misc/rolleyes.gif)
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Post by: shadowdancer on September 30, 2003, 14:15:12
Namaste,
   for the sake of all sanity...i think there may be a few things to remeber.  tremendous amounts of discretionary analysis and patience and a quieted mind for intuitive insight are really really important when one is trying to determine whether a negative force or influence has been externalized.  and that is key.  now, i know this is a point of heated debate, but i think we can see possible results of projective perception and projective perception alone...meaning, when you decide that something that is hurting you is outside of you 100%! you place yourself into a role of victim.  period.  whether you fight back or no, you are being victimized on some level.  now, this IS a level of reality, but it is incomplete.  because when we cannot acknowledge OUR role! in bringing negative energies into manifestation and how WE play a role in their continuation...not only are we victims; but in order to regain our lost personal power, we pick up the sword of self-righteousness and start to cut a swath of destruction....by reading this thread, i believe that it is possible that the psychological interpersonal dynamics that i just spoke of may very well have played a role in certain parties making veiled accusations...of what? does it matter? in conclusion, it is a dangerous game, this game of life...we play with fire and nuclear waste...we manifest demons and draw down the moon...all in the divine tragi-comedy of life on earth....i think someone once said something about a splinter and a log....
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Post by: xander on September 30, 2003, 14:43:38
I have not yet spoken how I feel in regards to humans who prey on each other or humans who prey upon plant and animal life.

Do you wish for me to speak of these things? do you wish me to stand atop a mount and give a sermon in regards to these things?

Xander

quote:
Originally posted by Hephaestus

Is this some kind of a Joke? There has been no misquoting made.

It was said by xander that he doesnt like beings that prey on the weak and they shall incur his wrath, beavis therefore said that he preys on the weak by eating animals so xander should show him his wrath, xander then said no he meant astral beings (which to me means xander dont mind humans preying on the weak) - therefore I wanted to get it cleared up by asking a question but its not been cleared up, all thats come of it is people making false accusations of misquoting.
This isnt the United Nations Criminal Court you know. (http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/misc/rolleyes.gif)

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Post by: xander on September 30, 2003, 14:48:48
quote:
Originally posted by Mystery Ninja



Xander - we know you didn't say that.  But it is very curious why someone would want to intentionally misquote and malign you so badly.  

As was said recently: "Very very interesting."



I'm used to people wanting to get my goat so to speak. Much like how the pharisees attempted to trick Jesus, so to do I have people attempting to provoke me to wrath. Like Jesus, however, I easily see through their silliness.

Xander Christ
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Post by: Hephaestus on September 30, 2003, 14:49:30
quote:
Originally posted by xander

Do you wish for me to speak of these things? do you wish me to stand atop a mount and give a sermon in regards to these things?

Xander



No, but I wish you to clarify your posts a bit better.
Nuff said.
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Post by: xander on September 30, 2003, 15:13:26
quote:
Originally posted by Hephaestus
[No, but I wish you to clarify your posts a bit better.



actually the posrt was very clear and specific. Perhaps too specific.

Xander Christ
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Post by: Dark Knight on September 30, 2003, 15:15:41
I laid on a couch too weak to move and listened to my friend's voice come on the answering machine...all the while thinking I was going to be dead in the morning and would never see anyone I loved again.

You're comparing my experience to a hamburger? All weakness is the same,...oh of course, no boundaries, so it would all be the same.

Assinine is what I would call it.
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Post by: Hephaestus on September 30, 2003, 15:20:04
quote:
Originally posted by xander

quote:
Originally posted by Hephaestus
[No, but I wish you to clarify your posts a bit better.



actually the posrt was very clear and specific. Perhaps too specific.

Xander Christ



The words 'i hate things that prey on the weak' and you're going to kick their asses could have been substituted for 'i hate astral beings that prey on the weak' and you're going to kick their asses.
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Post by: AurorisBoreala on September 30, 2003, 16:29:28

Brothers:

Perhaps we have gotten off topic in the heat of the differing opinions.  

I think Ender's idea is worth considering.  

Ender, perhaps you can tell us more about what you might have in mind.
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Post by: Anonymous on September 30, 2003, 19:05:47
Hello all-

In my kung fu class, we learn that benevolence is the way of the Shaolin. We help others less fortunate than ourselves. If you see someone getting mugged on the street, you confront the attacker and let them know that that's not okay and that they will be punished for their actions. You let them know that this is no way to live and that they can do something better for themselves.

We are taught things about honor and respect, and we are taught about focus and discipline. This is not an easy way of life, but the rewards are much better in the end.

As Bruce Lee once said: "It should be remembered that violence and aggression is part of everyday life now. You see it over the TV. You can't just pretend that it does not exist."

So how do we deal with the violence? We deal with it very carefully, we train ourselves to defend against it, and we help each other when we are in need. We are all brothers and sisters under the eyes of the one(s) responsible for our creation and the creation of the Universe. We must share and we must help each other. Only then can we benefit and advance. The attack of negs is sometimes slowing the process of some peoples' spiritual development. Some negs we can fight off on our own and do not need help with. it is unnecessary for us to fight these negs together. Others, however, are more powerful. And I'm talking about demons, black magicians, whole evil societies, etc. We must stand up against them no matter how much they do to us. It is a very giving gesture to put oneself in harm's way to help another. This is one of the most benevolent things we can do.

In essence, we are all in this together, and need to stick together, move together, share with each other, fight alongside and for each other, etc. Only then will we see the fruits of our benevolence.
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Post by: Arc on October 01, 2003, 13:52:54
damn right, Anyone that can help should help! I'll help in any whcih way I can. ender your completely right, and no one else should take up space and argue about something so insignficant. Xander was just expressing his views and you shouldnt take what he says to heart so easily, it's not like he said i want to kill negs and bad people that eat salads or whatever, only he wanted to stop the bad things in life that prey on the weak. like darknight said his experience was a little different from a hamburger.
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Post by: Anonymous on October 01, 2003, 14:29:21
On a side note, I would like to add that cows and bulls are much stronger than humans. They're not weaker than us, we're just more intelligent and know how to use our hands to make things like guns to kill them. Therefore, I would not say that the strong prey upon the weak theory works in every case. Humans also eat sharks, which are a great deal stronger than us. Again, we know how to catch them without getting ourselves eaten. It's not about the power you have, it's about what skills and knowledge you have.
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Post by: Xelios on October 01, 2003, 19:22:02
I would suggest that before you band together and fight back that you consult your warrior angels.
There are thngs that are beyond you so that it would be impossible to even hurt them.
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Post by: Anonymous on October 01, 2003, 20:36:29
We aren't worth dealing with for those entities. There are also much stronger enemies that they have. They wouldn't get enough out of us.
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Post by: Anonymous on October 01, 2003, 20:38:22
by the way, I'm not disregarding your suggestion. I consult mine all the time anyway.
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Post by: AurorisBoreala on October 02, 2003, 06:10:02


quote:
I would suggest that before you band together and fight back that you consult your warrior angels.  There are thngs that are beyond you so that it would be impossible to even hurt them.


The awoken human Spirit is greater than may be realized.  It is no bad thing to find the power within yourself.  True spirit is at the heart of all that is good.  Those who learn to stand in their awoken Spirit never need to hide behind angels.
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Post by: Xelios on October 02, 2003, 06:26:46
AurorisBoreala,
You sound very green,naive.
If you think you do not need help, from beings more powerful then you can imagine, good luck because you will need it.
You might find out one day that you are not as strong as you would like to believe. But then again your arrogance is not my concern or problem,so I don't really care what you think about warrior angels.

Negatives are very sneaky. They use every dirty trick they can to try to be victorious. They like to set traps for the unwary.

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Post by: Dark Knight on October 02, 2003, 06:49:09
I'm going to have to agree with Xelios on this one.

I was very strong mentally, emotionally, spiritually and physically prior to 1998. I didn't think anything could hurt me because nothing could break my faith.

What I now know is that my strength existed as long as my rights and free will as a living being were respected. That was a long time ago. We need each other and as my first martial arts sensei once said, "there will always be someone bigger than you, stronger than you, faster than you, smarter than you, and if you happen to be the best, even the best have bad days."

I had a bad day April 28, 1998 and it never ended.
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Post by: ardane on October 02, 2003, 07:33:34

Spiritual Warriorship takes many forms.  Some warriors believe they collaborate with angel-type entities, others find effectiveness in the light of their realized human spirit.  There is no right or wrong way – there is only what works for the warrior.  And what works for the warrior is what most personally and most honorably empowers the warrior: be it an outside entity or their own spirit.  

Thank you for your time.

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Post by: Dark Knight on October 02, 2003, 08:11:33
Oh I absolutely agree with you, that's not the problem I have.


When you have freedom, you can choose what really works for you, adn walk away from what doesn't.

But how long is that going to last? There comes a point in time when we can't walk away from certain situations anymore and we're forced to confront something, change our tactics, whatever. I would love to go back to the power of spirit I had before all this happened to me. It doesn't exist for me anymore and is unrealistic to accomplish on my own, unaided.

This is a universe based on mutual cooperation. We have the freedoms we have when we come together and agree to respect one another. That respect is what enables us to accept one thing and walk away from another...do what's right for us. If one group suddenly decides it doesn't need to respect, it'll just take what it wants and who cares about the consequences, what then?

That is what this rising evil seems to want to accomplish.
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Post by: AurorisBoreala on October 02, 2003, 08:30:25


Xelios: peace, brother.
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Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2003, 13:56:33
The mind is strong, the body is weak. We must learn to command our weak bodies with our strong minds. Once we have mastered our own physical matter, then we can master other physical and nonphysical matter.
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Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2003, 14:28:49
Dark Knight, you are right about this rising evil. They want to take everything they can from us. They decided they don't need us. What makes them evil is that they choose not to respect us or our boundaries. They have crossed the line, and now they're going to pay for it. If we stick together, they won't start trouble with us because it wouldn't be worth the consequences. Evil doesn't want to work hard. It wants to take the easy way out. This is why we will win, because we are willing to work hard no matter what. We have priorities and this gives us more edge in combat. We have a purpose, a mission, and we're not going to let anything or anyone take that away from us. And we are aware of one another and we want to help each other. At the same time, they will play with our desires. That is why we must try to eliminate our desires. Only when we do this can we truly be free.
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Post by: Xelios on October 02, 2003, 22:22:27
Anyhow it's always good to have some type of warrior spirits by your side.
I have had Samurai,and their armor was white and silver. Valkyries,( Again White and silver armor) Ancient Greek warriors,Native American warriors and some who looked similar to Gandalf. All of these beings have been there to protecct me at one time or another because some very nasty things were attacking me.
I can place protection around this house,and that protection looks like a very very thick castle wall. One day I saw something. It was made of black energy and it was about twenty-five feet tall. It kept smashing itself against my defensive. Finally cracks appeared in my defenses. Then that was when I was attacked as I slept. I felt a sharp searing pain in my head. Then I saw the things that were attacking. I didn't feel fear. I hit back with everything I had,and they only wavered slightly. I finally did a cleansing/banishing ritual,and then they were gone. The entire battle went on for over two weeks before I felt that pain in my head,and it lasted for a week after I was attacked.
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Post by: Anonymous on October 04, 2003, 00:08:35
I think I've seen this big black darkness you described. The best thing to do is burrow deep into its eye and sever its brain from its spinal cord. Worked for me. Is it still attacking you?
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Post by: Xelios on October 04, 2003, 01:41:17
I haven't seen it after itsmashed through the defenses around this house. A few other things attacked
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Post by: Anonymous on October 04, 2003, 21:30:37
The staff and the spear are good weapons for fighting because of their range. However, the key to winning a battle is your imagination and intuition.
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Post by: Hephaestus on October 05, 2003, 06:03:33
Next nasty entity to come into your house just give it a wedgy.
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Post by: Mick on October 05, 2003, 09:56:11
quote:
Originally posted by EnderWiggin

The staff and the spear are good weapons for fighting because of their range. However, the key to winning a battle is your imagination and intuition.


Myself, I have a fondness for the thermic lance [:D]
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Post by: Dark Knight on October 05, 2003, 11:57:43
I prefer Katana Blades, and my own imagination with a pen (or keyboard).

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Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2003, 20:42:28
Different weapons are good for different situations. One can have a staff that can contain a sword within, which can be accessed by pulling apart the middle of the staff. Also, the end of the staff can have an opening from which a spear-head can emerge when the staff's two halves are twisted, thus giving you three weapons in one. Very useful. A 6 ft. staff is great because it can keep an enemy at a safe distance (I use the word safe loosely here). I keep a couple of throwing knives and a dozen darts at my side. They are a good distraction if you're covering someone during combat.
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Post by: Arc on October 07, 2003, 13:29:18
Imagination is key here then? Good ideas, just don'tlet fights break out or anything, because if your gonna hlp and you start fighting halfway through, then the neg's will just probably use the negative energy to their advantage.
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Post by: Anonymous on October 07, 2003, 22:21:46
Have you ever seen a martial artist fight? I mean a really good one, like the monks? They don't get angry, afraid, or put out any negative energy. This is exactly how I plan to fight. I hope others do the same, for their sake. In battle, one must not be angry or afraid. They must simply know their objective and complete it. Just as you are building a house and you use your hammer to pound nails into the wood, you go about removing the negs in the same fashion. You're just doing your job, you're not going all out for glory or fame. If you got angry at the nails while pounding them into the wood, you'd be expending far more energy and the job would never get done. A sword in combat is a tool to help you complete an objective. This objective is to remove a neg from their victim. Yes, if you want to try love and white enregy, there's nothing wrong with that. I've heard that it is very effective and works just fine. However, I think in some situations it may be necessary to fight back in a warriorlike fashion. The goal is not to instill fear in anyone or hurt anyone, but one must realize it may come to that, so it's best to be prepared. The goal of a warrior is not to fight; in fact, it is to avoid fights. But sometimes some fights are unavoidable. That's why it's good to make it more trouble for them than it's worth to them. The fight might not even start in the first place.

Goal number 1: to stop the fight before it even starts.

Goal number 2: to stop the fight as, fast, as efficiently, and as effectively as possible, and to prevent it from reoccuring.
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Post by: boydster on November 03, 2003, 01:16:40
My main weapons are:

1. Blinding, white-hot fire, whipped into curling, cyclonic storms. It just burns the hell out of them.

2. Swords and flying blades of all shapes. It really hurts them to cut them.

3. Smashing, shattering blows, like you'd see if you crashed two large brick walls together.

Burn, cut, shatter!--burn, cut, shatter! And I seem to be able to release and focus more energy if I shout the verbs while doing it.

Enderwiggin, I'm with you. But how do we organize? We can talk all night about how right this is, but if we don't make a plan and  execute on it, then we've blown it. I work way too much and have little kids of my own that need my time. I do have the time for the real work, but the organization and communication has to be efficient. Ya know what I mean?
Title: We should all band together and fight back.
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2003, 21:11:25
Hi Boydster. In order to organize, we first need to know what kind of people we have. In other words, we've got to know who's good at doing what. Then from there we need to see who's available when, and then from there we need to organize dates on which we will be doing the work.

One rule: We shouldn't attack anything that doesn't need to be attacked. In other words, if someone is harming another person, we must find whatever is influencing that person and remove it from them. We have to get to the root of the problem, and the only way we can do that is by finding whatever energies or entities are influencing these "dark" people.

The whole reason people turn to the dark is because they are weak spiritually (and they also lack common sense). Today more than ever we are seeing spiritually weak people, usually in materialistic, capitalist societies like our own. The rich get richer and the poor poorer. But where is God in all this? Nobody cares. The less people care, the less he can intervene and help us. He (and other beings of light, such as angels) will not interfere with our free will unless we give him very specific permission to do so.

I hope I've answered your question.
Title: We should all band together and fight back.
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2003, 23:59:00
Before I forget to say this, I'd like to clarify something. I do not have time to be the leader of some gigantic army, so rather than do that, I suggest we turn to each other and take the initiative ourselves to organize a date on which we decide we want to help others in need. It can be a weekly thing, a monthly thing, or just whenever it's good for the people who are willing to participate.

Step 1: Present someone's request to each other and ask who is willing to help you fulfill that person's request.

Step 2: Decide on a date that's good for the greatest number of people to do the first mission, which is...

Step 3: Investigate (gather info). "Never test the depth of a river with both feet." -African proverb. You don't know what's real and what's not until you've confirmed it for yourself.

Step 4: Present gathered info to each other and use only what info corresponds with everyone in the group. The rest could be anything. Repeat steps 2 and 3 as many times as needed.

Step 5: Decide on what strategies will work best to resolve the problem at hand. DON'T HARM THE ATTACKER IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO. By attacking them when it is not necessary, you are no better than they are. It's best to get the weed by its roots. Find the source (usually a negative entity, energy, etc.) and terminate it.

Step 6: Get feedback from the person you're helping. Communication is very important between you (us) and them, and should be done as much as possible throughout the above process.

Step 8: Heal the person you're helping as needed, and teach them methods to prevent further attacks in the future. Also, it would be a good idea to find out exactly how their attacker(s) penetrated their defenses, i.e. try to diagnose their weak areas if you can, and tell them to strengthen those areas. If they don't or won't when they obviously can, that's their problem.

Step 7: Repeat steps 1-7 as is necessary.

* Always gather every bit of info you can from the person you're helping before you begin to investigate. Sometimes the attackers will know if you're investigating or not and you don't even have to tell the person you're helping.

** Do not share any information with the person you are helping if their attacker has ways of tapping into their mind to pull any and all information from them. Doing so will otherwise tip off the attacker that something is up.

*** If someone is not having a psychic attack but thinks they are, be understanding and passionate to them, but don't be a pushover. Hurting their ego won't solve anything. Say what you've got to say in a nice way, and don't insult them (even in a nice way).

That's all I can think of right now.

Good luck,
-Ender
Title: We should all band together and fight back.
Post by: Anonymous on September 28, 2003, 19:20:59
I say we all band together and fight off each other's attackers. There are a few, such as myself, who do not have problems with psychic attackers, alive or dead. I am willing to help anyone who needs it. I want to rid people of their attackers, heal them, and show them how to fight back. Is anyone willing to help?

Why do people think it is wrong to fight negs? We aren't just going out and picking fights with them, we're defending ourselves from them and stopping them from attacking others. It's like seeing a mugger on a street assaulting someone. What are you going to do? Are you going to let the person be victimized or are you going to risk your own well-being to help them fight back? I for one am willing to risk my well-being for the well-being of others. Because I know that I would like someone to do the same for me if I were being attacked.

I've been working with Criminalmind to help her fight her attacker. If he's so powerful then he would've attacked me by now. I've managed to affect him, to some degree and now he takes me seriously. He knows that he has only to stop attacking others and I'll leave him alone. I've given him that choice.

Robert Bruce's books are good but not everyone has time to read them. Everyone should have a look at them but I think it is also important for us to help each other as well. If it comes down to it, then I think we should fight off the person's attacker.

What are peoples' views on this?