Welcome to the Quantum Metaphysics Forum

[Links Shadow]

Hooray, I was wondering when this topic would get its own board considering how big this subject has gotten in the last few decades.  Thank you for creating a place where we can discuss our ideas.

[JoWo]

Thank you very much, Adrian, for creating this forum and for referencing my website and my book.  Both are dedicated to helping others become acquainted with the Grand Reality of which our physical 3-D world is but a small part.  As you pointed out in e-mails to me, Adrian, this knowledge has been available to humankind for millennia in restricted form.  Now, humanity is entering a new evolutionary phase, and modern science is at the threshold of rediscovering this advanced knowledge.  I'll do my best to explain my own understanding of this process in this forum.
  Joachim "Jo" Wolf.

[Adrian]

Dear Joe,

Thanks very much indeed for your message, and welcome to the forums!

These are indeed most exciting times in which we live as both ancient and modern converge to demonstrate that there is only obe truth, one reality.

I am sure that the "quantum sciences" will make "quantum leaps" over the next few years, and which will in turn assist in accelerating the consciousness expansion that we are witnessing today.

This cannot happen to soon, this next decade is pivotal for humanity.

Thanks again, and I look forward to your future posts here in this forum, and indeed to discussing the aspect of your book.

With best regards,

Adrian.

[strwrs_guru]

im looking forward to a lot of fun times with learning more of thje subjects i have questions abnout.

[Beth]

Hey all!

I am actually venturing out of the Religion Forums to see what else is "out here"!!!  and here I find one of my favorite topics!!  I have been pondering the Quantum world and working with Quantum practices off an on for over ten years!  Paul Davies was one of the first authors that I read, and I have since read more recent ones as well.  

I agree JoWo--humankind has known about this for millenia--at least as far back as Heraclitus and his coining of the term "Logos."  This is the same Greek word that is used in the Gospel of John 1:1 that has been translated into the English term "The Word."  Personally, I think that the early Christian movement was about this very topic!!  I started a thread in the Religion Forum about "Quantum Theology."  It didn't get a lot of response, but it is there nonetheless.

I am going to read some of these threads and see what all has been posted!

Peace,
Beth

[Zaphnat-Panea]

Sorry, but I did not find any refereed articles about the theory of Joachim Wolf. On his website I could not find neither what his degree in PHysics was, as it is only written that he studied physics and nothing is mentioned about a possible degree (graduation).

Though I found the idea of holon interesting, I could not figure out how he made the analogy of the slit experiment with the Holon Principle (I think it was HP 11). If to explain the paradoxal duality of elementary particles (wave against particle) was as easy as converting the whole thing into a higher dimension, then physicists would have already obtained the result by writting the equations in (say) 5 dimension (3 space + 1 time + one additional) and "projecting" the equations into the usual 4 dimensional (3 space + 1 time) universe we know. However, this is not the case. There are some theories that require multidimensionality to explain the world, but the number of dimensions is much higher than just 4.

I would be happy to belive in what Joachim Wolf wrote, if he can prove his theory with some analytical expressions, rather than just wording.

[JoWo]

The concept of what I call Quantum Metaphysics, and particularly its Holistic Logic, is based on a spontaneous experience of higher reality that I had as a young man.  I described this experience in the Introduction to my book, Understanding the Grand Design, which can be viewed via my website www.quantum-metaphysics.com (click: My Book/Book Cover>Sample Excerpt).  The experience was so powerful and enlightening that to this day I do not doubt its validity.  Describing its far-reaching ramifications is difficult, but I am quite sure that the basic ideas expressed in my website and more developed in my book are valid.  I have received this assurance from numerous books and channeled messages that agree with my understanding of higher reality.  In fact, Adrian invited me to this forum because he was so impressed by the similarity between my writings and ancient spiritual scriptures that Adrian has studied.

I researched the subject carefully, as the numerous footnotes to my paper, Revolution in Common Sense, indicate (see my website).  I am experienced in performing systematic research, which was part of my management career in research and development of electronic systems in a major American corporation.  My formal education corresponds to a Bachelor of Science degree plus additional courses towards a Masters degree, which were interrupted by the tumultuous political and economic conditions in beleaguered post-war Berlin.

My writings are of a philosophical nature and not possible to express mathematically.  The best I could do was to formulate a logically cohesive description of the intricate relationship between wholes and their constituent parts. This subject has been debated throughout known history. Since the entire universe is organized in wholes and parts, this "Holistic Logic" appears to apply to everything there is.  It works well for practical examples from our visible environment and it leads to conclusions about the invisible (spiritual) reality in good agreement with ancient wisdom as, for instance, expressed in Ken Wilber's perennial philosophy.

The specific application of Holistic Logic to quantum physics must be taken as a suggestion.  I do not have the expertise to formulate the appropriate mathematics, however I am quite sure that the wave and particle natures of the quantum are two different aspects of the same "thing" and, as best as I can determine, Holistic Logic applies to them as well, regardless how many dimensions are involved.  I may have quoted four dimensions in an attempt to simplify the explanation of the principle, however I tried to stay away from being specific on this point because I don't know how many dimensions are involved.  There is more to say about using the concept of dimensions to explain invisible reality and I plan to address this subject in another post.

I would like to add that I appreciate very much Zaphnat-Panea's comments on this subject.  They are sincere and worth debating.  I know that I have seen the truth, and I will do my best to communicate it accurately regardless of the difficulties involved.

Best regards,
Jo.

[Zaphnat-Panea]

Thanks Joachim,

for your prompt reply.
What I found in your introduction reminds me of the Near Death Experience, and as such can explain many religions and believe systems, since people have had NDE for as long as there is (human) life on this planet. Whether it is the study subject of Adrian, or just the common monoteistic religions (where God is One), they all agree to a Unification. But this of course does not mean that non-spiritual things (matter) are unified too. Anyhow, may I suggest you to have a look here at http://www.iands.org/ and you will find a lot in common with your spiritual experience. I understand now that your theory is qualitative rather than quantitative. Sorry for putting it under the scrutinity of the exact sciences, while it was rather a philosophical approach (human sciences).

[Pantalimon]

If true what implications would this overturning of the Copenhagen and Many Worlds interpretations of Quantum Mechanics cause for Quantum Metaphysics?

http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/rebel.html

[JoWo]

Hello Zaphnat-Panea,

On Sept. 11 you wrote:

quote:But this of course does not mean that non-spiritual things (matter) are unified too.

This is where the misunderstanding comes in. EVERYTHING is unified as viewed from the multi-dimensional domain.  Material things are nothing but 3-D aspects of multi-D phenomena, similar to limiting our perception to the 2-D surface planes of a 3-D crystal (if you read the "Revolution" paper in my website.)  Only if you limit your view to the three dimensions that our eyes are capable of, then do you perceive material things as separate objects.  It's only because we humans are all equipped with the same limited sensors, that we believe in separate material things.  A multi-dimensional observer perceives all matter as mere aspects of one unified reality.

quote:Anyhow, may I suggest you to have a look here at http://www.iands.org/ and you will find a lot in common with your spiritual experience.

I am familiar with IANDS. My own experience is known as "spontaneous samadhi", which is a direct experience of the inner one-ness of everything.

Greetings!
Jo.

[JoWo]

Hi Pantalimon,

Quantum Metaphysics does not overturn the Copenhagen and Many Worlds interpretations of Quantum Mechanics, it explains them.

[Pantalimon]

quote:Originally posted by JoWo

Hi Pantalimon,

Quantum Metaphysics does not overturn the Copenhagen and Many Worlds interpretations of Quantum Mechanics, it explains them.

Hi JoWo,

following your statement doesn't it mean that if Shahriar Afshar's experiment is true (and its seems good science) then Quantum Metaphysics explains the Copenhagen and Many Worlds interpretations of Quantum Mechanics that is now NOT true (not science)?

[JoWo]

Pantalimon,

The Copenhagen and Many Worlds interpretations are not "wrong", IMO, they simply don't tell the whole story.  I don't want to comment on Shahriar Afshar's experiment because I don't know enough about it.  Why don't you explain it to us?

[Pantalimon]

quote:Originally posted by JoWo

Pantalimon,

The Copenhagen and Many Worlds interpretations are not "wrong", IMO, they simply don't tell the whole story.  I don't want to comment on Shahriar Afshar's experiment because I don't know enough about it.  Why don't you explain it to us?

Sorry just got very busy and still busy. Off the top of my head and condensed into a line I think he has proved that there is no duality in the description of light. I'm intrested in this forum and will participate when I get a break in my life, I've a very basic grouding in school physics and a dabblers understanding, having read hawking and popular physics books. Clifford Pickovers "Surfing through Hyperspace" and Arnold Mindells "the Quantum Mind" are books that I've read that I imagine are specifically relevent here.

[JoWo]

As I wrote in my 1991 essay "Revolution in Common Sense", the quantum is a "whole", undivided unit.  It appears to us as a duality only because we cannot directly perceive the higher-dimensional environment in which it exists.  Our experience of reality is limited by our perception of 3-D space and 1-D time.  In "true" reality, 3-D space and time do not exist, in other words, true reality is "nonlocal" and "nontemporal".  The quantum has more dimensions than our 3-D space and time.  

We know that the duality of space and time is a human illusion. Einstein discovered this.  We also know that each individual is one single entity although he/she appears to project the duality of mind and body – it's the same scenario.

What I am really saying is that both views are correct. The quantum is both, a single unit, and it appears to us as a duality.  This is no contradiction, as it is no contradiction that you are one person and yet you project the duality of mind and body.  Or Einstein's spacetime is one unified environment, yet we perceive it as the duality of space and time.  The difference between seeing the quantum as a "whole" or as two separate parts is in our point of view, in how we look at it.  I'm quite sure that Shahriar Afshar must address the nature of light in a multi-dimensional manner if he concludes that it is no duality.

[Adrian]

Greetings everyone,

This is a new forum dedicated to the modern field of Quantum Metaphysics. For those who wish to aquaint themselves with this important science I would highly recommend the website of Joachim Wolf which is hosted on the same server as the Astral Pulse:

http://www.quantum-metaphysics.com

I would also very highly recommend the excellent book by Joachim Wolf entitled: Understanding the Grand Design. Spiritual Reality's Inner Logic. Available from:http://www.trafford.com

I hope you enjoy this new resource!

With best regards,

Adrian.

[knucklebrain1970]

Hey, I'm not trying to start waves here, I just got here as a matter of fact, but why don't you guys listen to what Jo is saying, read his theories and understand what he is getting at, rather than jumping down his throat about disregarding everyone else's theories. That's not what he is trying to accomplish here. Just thought I'd say that and Hi to you all.


Kevin

[delysia]

erm  has anyone looked into the work of ron pearson? He's a phycisist am on my way to work so haven't the time for links but he is fascinating he talks about he science of eternity. google him if anyone has the time.

[delysia]

hello fascinating forum this is. Have any of you heard of ron pearson and his science of eternity?
JW Dunne and nothing ever dies? Ron pearson is a scientist who has come up with peer reviewed findings do google him.
JW Dunne an aeronaught/engineer from the 1920's who came up with facscinating ideas of time he influenced cs lewis and tolkein no less.he's worth a google.