Holistic Causation

[Mirador]

Osiris

Do you really want an answer to our question?  Your're not going to find it among philosophical speculations here in AstralPulse or pseudoscientific or voodoo science postulations as is mostly the case here. You will surely find your answer by taking a forty day forty night break in your routine, in a place distant from living human beings, say like the middle of the Sonora Desert, or any wilderness for that matter.

Mirador

[Osiris]

Greetings Mirador,

Thank you for posting your opinion.

I just wanted to ask you why one would spend his time to post 141 replies/topics on a such site?

Personally I like astralpulse forums. People here are helpful, you can find a lot of new interesting information, and have some fun. Almost like online family:)))


Yours,

Osiris.

[Mirador]

Osiris,

Thank you, I'm much obliged for your kindness. I also share your feelings about AstralPulse. However, there's one basic issue you must keep in mind, we here at AstralPulse are not real people, as a matter of fact, there're several cyborgs here who have no biological components. There's no substitute for real people, the flesh and blood kind, the type you can see, touch, smell, hear the tone of their voices, the expresions of their face and body. There's no such thing as 'almost like a family', it's either a family or not. Don't fool yourself that these typewritten letters and words can substitute for true and complete human communication.

Personally I enjoy this forum, and I'm aware all my postings cannot be clear and helpful for all. I'll be content if I can help just one person.

Mirador

[JoWo]

Hello Osiris,

You have posted an excellent question.  How does the behavior of others affect us, since we are all integral parts of the same whole?  The answer can be subdivided into three parts.  The first aspect concerns how closely we are related to the "transmitting" group.  If they and we belong to a relatively small "whole," such as a close-knit family or a circle of friends, then the effect of mutual influence is stronger than for a large whole, perhaps a nation or even all of humankind.  
The second aspect depends on the mental/spiritual intensity of the transmitting group.  Is their behavior backed up by a concerted conscious intent with deep inner conviction, or is it just a casual twist of behavior?
The third aspect concerns our own "vulnerability."  We always have free will.  This means that we are never powerless victims of mental/spiritual influences.  The key is the individual's mindset. If his belief system agrees with the transmitting group's message, then he will be open to their influence.  If, however, his beliefs run counter to the other group, then he will not be affected and may even adopt a conscious position against that group's influence.  And, if he doesn't have any relevant opinion, then he may inadvertently fall in line with others.
In other words, it is up to us how much we are insulated from other's influence.  This also points out how important it is for us to be conscious of our own beliefs.  The more conscious we are of what we believe, the more control we have over our destiny, the less we are subject to uncontrolled influences.

Jo.

[Osiris]

Greetings Jo,

Thank you for your informative answer.

Regards,

Osiris.

[JoWo]

You're welcome, Osiris.  Thank YOU for the opportunity of talking about quantum metaphysics [].

Jo

[beavis]

Mirador "we here at AstralPulse are not real people, as a matter of fact, there're several cyborgs here who have no biological components."

Damn why dont you let everybody in on the secret! How can I continue spying with blabbermouths like you?

[JoWo]

I am logging off for a week.

[Osiris]

Greetings,

A light heart lives long[8D] Have a nice holiday Jo.

Yours,

Osiris.

[JoWo]

Thanks a lot, Osiris, we had a great time!
Greetings!
Jo.

[Osiris]

Greeting,

Just thinking for example if substancial group of people start develop some strange  behaviour , and causing the change of the whole , would we all be affected in that particular case? I to what degree it affects individual like myself?
I think here in 3-D we are having a certain degree of independence.
So we are in a way insulated from the influence. Becouse we are separated from out immenent source, well I mean mentally separated.
And once we expand our concious then we are able to influence our reality more directly, and in turn we are more open for a changes.

It would be great to hear others opinion on a subject.

Regards,

Osiris.