Yes. All you have to do is sit and wait. You move in the time dimension.
Well Wronski Feint (creative name - you don't read Harry Potter do you?), according to the experts we are stuck within three spacial dimensions. This is almost a direct statement of string theory (actually M-theory, but who cares about technicality?). Actually, I am assuming that there are no tears already present in spacetime. So if you do want to, just go looking for wormholes. Have fun and good luck. [:D]
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Yes. All you have to do is sit and wait. You move in the time dimension.
But if we take another dimension that is not linked to the time ;)
Yes, it should theoretically be possible to shift a human into the higher realms and then bring them back again. The dissapearance and reappearance of objects (often dropping from a height and smashing) is well documented in haunting experiences, and the astral is known about. So I see no reason why we couldn't move through this space as a quick form of travel, eg interstellar. I think it most likely that ufo's use this as their means of getting around.
Rob
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As far as moving in other dimensions, I believe it is possible. Here is a post I made some time back. It could be considered as having moved from one point in my present space time dimension, to another.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11910
Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Thelou
see, our physical universe is composed of three spatial dimensions. the material is also composed of three dimensions. in order to move in a new spatial dimension you would have to alter the energy/matter in such a way so that it could function in this new dimension.
also, if you were to move in a fourth dimension you wouldn't be able to interact with the other three dimensions, due to the fact that you'd essentially be moving "into" a point in space.
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see, our physical universe is composed of three spatial dimensions. the material is also composed of three dimensions. in order to move in a new spatial dimension you would have to alter the energy/matter in such a way so that it could function in this new dimension.
also, if you were to move in a fourth dimension you wouldn't be able to interact with the other three dimensions, due to the fact that you'd essentially be moving "into" a point in space.
In Joachim Wolf's book Understanding the Grand Design, he goes in depth talking about the different dimensions and how they relate to each other. I wish he would read this post. He would probably have a very insightful answer. My interpretation of his book is that if we moved into a fourth dimension we would be able to interact in the first, second, third, and fourth dimension. At the same time.
let me put some more thought into this and get back to you.
Its all about the string theory.
I just got done reading a book that is quite possibly the best book I have ever Read. The name of the book is called
"The Elegant Universe, superstrings, hidden dimentions, and the quest for the ultimate theory - Brian Greene"
Basicly the String theory, many physicists believe, is the key to the unified field theory that eluded Einstein for more than thirty odd years. Science now has found a way to overcome that century-old rift between laws of the large , general reletivity, and the laws of the small, quantum machanics. String theory unites the two pillers of modern physics into a single whole by declaring that all of the happenings in entity. Microscopically tiny loops of energy that lie deep within the heart of matter (IE chi energy, KI, NEW energy ways).
And comes along with it all, the answers to the hidden dimensions.
Hello Everyone,
You are already moving in the fourth dimension, right here and now, we all do. In fact, we can't not do so because we already live in 4-dimsnional space. Ever since Albert Einstein and Herman Minkowski, we know that we live in 4-dimensional space that is composed of our 3-D space and 1-D time. However, while we perceive our space and time as two different aspects of reality, they are not separate in 4-D "spacetime", as it is called. As Beavis wrote in his 25 May post, "All you have to do is sit and wait. You move in the time dimension." You can move through 4-D space in any direction as you can now in 3-D space, and you are doing this all the time. You are just not aware of it. In other words, we don't need to learn how to move in four dimensions, we only have to become aware of how we are doing this already.
There is a lot more to this subject. We are not even limited to 4-D. In fact, we know of no limit to dimensions that exist beyond the ones we experience consciously. And there is no reason to believe that we don't participate in an untold number of them subconsciously. You, I, and everyone else are much more than the small ego that we experience consciously. Your soul, for instance, is conscious of many such egos who are all "you", meaning the greater you that you really are. All these other egos of yours, all the different incarnations of your soul, co-exist in dimensions different from your present incarnation. There are people who can remember some of their other incarnations. This means that they are aware of how they exist in many more dimensions than just the fourth dimension beyond our 3-D environment.
When you dream, you are getting glimpses of the other dimensions that you occupy. And messages in other topics of this Astral Pulse Forum, discuss how individuals experience dimensions of reality that are beyond our 3-D space and time. Those other dimensions are considered "spiritual" in contrast to our physical 3-D environment. Again, it is not a matter of moving into a higher dimension, but of becoming aware that you are already there. How you do this is a matter of personal preference. For instance, Red Dragon in the parallel topic "Who understands Quantum Metaphysics" is pursuing shamanism. Others follow specific meditation routines. I personally prefer the more gentle approach of unconditional love. The trick is not to "strive" for spiritual awakening. This sounds counter-productive but is important to understand. Remember that you create your reality based on what you believe. If you make a point of striving for spiritual awakening, then you state the belief that you are not living in these higher dimensions. And since you create what you believe, you will not experience these higher dimensions. In other words, you must think and act AS IF you are already spiritually aware. Whole books have been written on this subject.
Bet wishes!
Jo.
i think that the original post was about a fourth spatial dimension.
as for whether or not one is able to interact with the "original" three, i think that you would remove yourself from the first three dimensions. any movement or interaction would be in the fifth mathematical dimension.
whether or not you could move your body into that space is beyond me. maybe there are parts of yourself that exist there already that you aren't aware of.
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whether or not you could move your body into that space is beyond me. maybe there are parts of yourself that exist there already that you aren't aware of.
Exactly. In JoWo's book, Understanding the Grand Design, he starts of our understanding by walking us through all four dimensions. He gives the example of what perspective a being in one dimension would be. If you drew dots on a piece of paper they are all one dimension. It does not matter the diameter of the dot. Big or small, they are still a flat dot living in a 1D Universe.
If you put your finger onto that paper the only impression that these 1D beings would be able to see would be your finger tip. Much like if you put your finger on a piece of glass and looked at it from the other side. It is flat and kind of round. From their perspective it would be another round, flat dot.
Now if you put all of your finger tips on that same piece of paper, you would now be essentially creating five round flat dots. But they are all connected to your hand in a 3D environment, that the 1D beings cannot see.
Therefore, it is highly probable that there are parts of us or even other beings for that matter that exist in higher dimensions that we are not aware of. Just because we cannot perceive them with our limited 4D awareness, does not mean they are not there.
having presented that hypothesis, i would like to ask what everyone thinks about the function these non-euclidian selves would ultimately serve.
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Therefore, it is highly probable that there are parts of us or even other beings for that matter that exist in higher dimensions that we are not aware of. Just because we cannot perceive them with our limited 4D awareness, does not mean they are not there.
I would like to extend your hypothesis using Tom Beardens ideas - that is, all the higher dimension can be experienced, while still experiencing only 3d (+time which I dont call a dimension as it just confuses things - time is a factor present throughout the dimensional structure and as such can be considered seperate). In other words, as you move up the dimensional scale you drop one at the bottom and pick up one above. So your perception of the physical world would change to viewing a planar structure, if you are viewing the physical at all. This explains a lot e.g. with earthbound spirits.
As such from the original question the directions would still be the same - up left right, x y z, because thats all our little minds can percieve.
And moonburn:
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in order to move in a new spatial dimension you would have to alter the energy/matter in such a way so that it could function in this new dimension.
I'll assume this is not meant to disprove the idea that it can be done. If it is I'd just say "so?" - thats an engineering problem.
Rob
medative stats could be seen as alltern' dimentions
deep rem med rapied eye movment by simulating sleep'
internaly acheved.
the senter point and makeing it smaller( two fingers above the bell bution cross leged ears inline with sholder, nose in line with belly butoin[you become in moveable wheen acheved properly]).
could be consureed as analternitve dimenshion. teckneckes discribed in extending kiy (book)
1. depth perseption
2. hight
3. width (norm 3 dimenshions)
4. internaly sight
5. the other 9 plaines of the spirt world.
Hi Thelou,
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Exactly. In JoWo's book, Understanding the Grand Design, he starts of our understanding by walking us through all four dimensions. He gives the example of what perspective a being in one dimension would be. If you drew dots on a piece of paper they are all one dimension. It does not matter the diameter of the dot. Big or small, they are still a flat dot living in a 1D Universe.
Thanks for explaining this dimensional relationship. Just one comment to avoid confusion. A dot with no expansion in any direction has zero dimensions, a line has one dimension, and an area has two. An expanded dot covers an area and has two dimensions: width and depth. So the imaginary circular creatures who live in 2D space have two dimensions; I called them "2Ds" A 3D sphere that penetrates the 2D world appears as a circle that changes its size. Your fingerprints on a 2D surface appear to the "2Ds" like five separate fellow 2D beings, even though they are just aspects of your 3D hand that the "2Ds" cannot see.
In the same manner, we 3D creatures perceive separate objects although they are actually one single item in 4D or higher dimensional environments. A typical example is how the electron appears in 3D space either as particle or as wave. Also, we think of space and time as separate items even though they are one unified 4D spacetime according to Einstein. And your body and mind appear as separate aspects of your self.
Thanks again for mentioning this subject. It helps to visualize our position within the multi-dimensional cosmic reality.
Jo.
Thanks JoWo for correcting me. I see what I was explaining as a 1D environment was actually a 2D environment. The 2D's would see five separate UFO's. (Unidentified Finger Objects). [:D][:D]
Moonburn33
You asked on 12 June 2004 :
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having presented that hypothesis, i would like to ask what everyone thinks about the function these non-euclidian selves would ultimately serve.
They are part of what we call spiritual reality.
Jo.
Is it possible for a human withiout assistance from a machine to move in a fourth dimension, if so how?. (in other words move in a new direction such as ana & kata, or whatever the directions are called)