Black Hole = Big Bang

[genep]

the Hindus of old used their Supreme Science (the use of meditation to study thoughts)
to give us nonduality, the Monism called Advaita ..  another name for Modern Physics.
-- with their study of thoughts, alias  Advaita, they figured out the two limits of Matter
that 5000 years later Modern Physics/Cosmology  gives us:

At the beginning end:Cosmology gives us the Big Bang that is the start of the Universe
At the end end: when the Universe's matter vanishes it is into Gravity, alias "Black Hole."

The Non-duality of Advaita give us BOTH --  the same Big Bang and Blackhole -- but not with anything Outside but what is "Inside" , Self, Samadhi, Physics' Time=0, Now.

Exactly like matter and its Light has a "limitless-no-control" of the  Black-hole that swallows it 
so too thoughts, mind, has the same  "limitless -no-control" of Samadhi that vanishes thoughts, mind.
just like a black-hole, alias gravity,  DISTORTS  matter like an elastic band before it vanishes into  black-hole
so too samadhi also DISTORTS  its thoughts ...
the distortion of matter by a black-hole is called "gravity"
.. the  distortion of thoughts/mind  by Samadhi  the Hindus of old called Kundalini, Shakti.

Kundalini – the distortion of thoughts by Samadhi... Samadhi can manifest it-Self to thoughts as Kundalini with limitless dilutions and dynamics, and explosions.

Very rarely Kundalini can explode with a big-bang explosion ( that only the universe's big-bang can compare)  with this rare bigbang explosion of Kundalini the Universe vanishes .. EXACTLY like matter vanishes into a Black-Hole

Thus Samadhi (that is  Physics' time=o, Now)  is not only the (Inside) Black Hole scientists are looking for outside in the universe
but it is also the (Inside) Big-Bang that scientists are looking for  outside to explain their Universe.
-- O'no

[Stillwater]

Who is this O'no who has been giving their wisdom to the forum for weeks now, lol? I tried to search for them, but the only results on google are Oprah, and your posts. Is he an Upanishadic Guru?

[Lighten]

Just a small note

At the end end: when the Universe's matter vanishes it is into Gravity, alias "Black Hole.

Some matter does escape black holes, and the rest doesn't vanish it stay in the black hole.

[hizuka007]

Some matter does escape black holes, and the rest doesn't vanish it stay in the black hole.

are you sure? even the light cannot escape the black hole thats why it is color black, then you are saying that SOME matter does escape?

[CFTraveler]

If you take a look at Stephen Hawking's work, you'll see that radiation (not matter) does escape black holes- in fact, I think they called it 'Hawking Radiation' in his honor.  Black holes do lose energy, so that they don't end up swallowing the whole galaxy.  Black holes are very stable, and at the center of almost (if not every) galaxy that we know of, according to some scientists.
So it looks like black holes for the most part remain stable, and would take an inordinate amount of time to swallow regions of space.  So the idea of black holes as swallowing up everything is old fashioned, stemming from the time they were theorized.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hawking




edited to add useful links

[zareste]

The newer theories say some matter escapes black holes. It's referred to as 'Hawking radiation' which is a funny name because I'm pretty sure Hawking spent a lot of time saying absolutely nothing escapes a black hole.

I, for one, think the black holes astronomers see are not the spacial collapse Eistein and Hawking conceived of. I think they're just stars that release radiation entirely outside of our spectrum

[Yamabushi]

The newer theories say some matter escapes black holes. It's referred to as 'Hawking radiation' which is a funny name because I'm pretty sure Hawking spent a lot of time saying absolutely nothing escapes a black hole.

I, for one, think the black holes astronomers see are not the spacial collapse Eistein and Hawking conceived of. I think they're just stars that release radiation entirely outside of our spectrum

Yeah Hawking talked about proving himself wrong (at least mathematically) a bit in A Brief History of Time.

I saw mentioned somewhere the idea that black holes may be stars comprised of dark matter / energy.

[hizuka007]

but the idea that some MATTERS can escape in black hole is a different story, because matter and radiation are not the same.

[CFTraveler]

but the idea that some MATTERS can escape in black hole is a different story, because matter and radiation are not the same.

Einstein would disagree with you.  Matter is just energy with mass, and any chemical reaction releases it, like fire for example, turning the matter into pure energy.  Like in a nuclear reaction, for example.  Another example would be a burning building (less drastic)-when a burning building is burnt into a crisp- photons escape, and eventually whatever matter that doesn't become pure energy is left as a different type of matter. 
Anyway, the important thing about the discovery of Hawking radiation is that if a black hole is releasing energy at the same time that it is swallowing up matter, at some point it can reach equilibrium, and is not a runaway  'eat the whole universe' type of thing.  And, most scientists know, that for a black hole to exist, it has to be massive enough to produce the gravity pull it does.  If it becomes stable, it may even lose the necessary mass to maintain itself and turn into something else.  What that is I don't know.

[hizuka007]

matter is particle while radiation is a wave or the disturbance or the transfered(in action) energy.......
you also agree by saying:

If you take a look at Stephen Hawking's work, you'll see that radiation (not matter) does escape black holes-

therefore you agree that using the word MATTER is inappropriate... ^_^

^_^. anyway, im no physicist so i cant really understand these things. but one thing for sure is that radiation is a disturbance or transfer of energy, it is not a matter.

[Yamabushi]

Anyway, the important thing about the discovery of Hawking radiation is that if a black hole is releasing energy at the same time that it is swallowing up matter, at some point it can reach equilibrium, and is not a runaway  'eat the whole universe' type of thing.  And, most scientists know, that for a black hole to exist, it has to be massive enough to produce the gravity pull it does.  If it becomes stable, it may even lose the necessary mass to maintain itself and turn into something else.  What that is I don't know.

It's not that it is releasing energy, it is actually absorbing negative energy from the quantum foam. If the virtual negative energy arises from the zero-point background paired (or actually, entangled) with a positive partner, then the negenergy can absorbed and the plusenergy escapes through a sort of quantum tunneling or transPlanckian wormhole effect (which makes relativistic physicists shift uncomfortably in their seats). The interesting thing about this is that it makes the plusenergy (the observed thermal radiation) become "actual" from it's normal "virtual" existence, because annihilation is prevented by the entangled negenergy's pull (push?) toward the black hole.

But you're right, eventually the negative energy can evaporate it completely. We'll be able to do this technologically once we learn to harness vacuum energy and electrogravity... once we figure out what it is that will reconcile quantum theory with relativity.

YB

[CFTraveler]

Ah speaks in simple terms, Yama.    
Thanks.

[Yamabushi]

Ah speaks in simple terms, Yama.    
Thanks.

Sorry, vacuum / subquantum / information physics is a subject I've been researching intensely for a couple years now... sometimes I get overly excited when it's brought up   

[Stillwater]

Matter is just energy with mass, and any chemical reaction releases it, like fire for example, turning the matter into pure energy.  Like in a nuclear reaction, for example.  Another example would be a burning building (less drastic)-when a burning building is burnt into a crisp- photons escape, and eventually whatever matter that doesn't become pure energy is left as a different type of matter. 

I think you mostly have a good handle on it, CFT, but it is worth noting that what is released in combustion is generally "chemical energy" stored in molecular bonds, as the reagents move to bonds with lower embodied energy. Nuclear reactions (involving a nucleus) are normally the ones where matter is directly translated into energy, because for some reason not all protons are alike- the ones in Helium are slightly lighter than the ones in Hydrogen, for example, and the extra energy from fusion is partly a result of this "shaving". 

[CFTraveler]

I think you mostly have a good handle on it, CFT, but it is worth noting that what is released in combustion is generally "chemical energy" stored in molecular bonds, as the reagents move to bonds with lower embodied energy. Nuclear reactions (involving a nucleus) are normally the ones where matter is directly translated into energy, because for some reason not all protons are alike- the ones in Helium are slightly lighter than the ones in Hydrogen, for example, and the extra energy from fusion is partly a result of this "shaving". 

Thanks for clearing that up.
I was trying to illustrate an example that everyone has seen (fire) although in my mind I was also thinking of nuclear reactions in the sun, for example.

But yes, a nuclear reaction would be the example I should have used, showing that matter can be converted into energy, released in the reactions.

[CFTraveler]

Sorry, vacuum / subquantum / information physics is a subject I've been researching intensely for a couple years now... sometimes I get overly excited when it's brought up   

I actually enjoyed reading it, so no need to apologize.