the real black-hole

[genep]

In a sleep dream the mind is locked into the dream because it is the dream.
No matter how absurd or unreal a dream is, there is no way the mind can figure out that it is the dream, unless it is part of the dream.

What about the awake state we call life?  Can life get so unreal that the mind can figure that it cannot be real and thus it must be unreal, just like a dream?

This question bothered sages around the Indus River in India over 5000 years ago: Is the mind locked into life just as certainly as it is locked into a dream?

Their null hypothesis was: no matter how unreal life gets there is no way the mind can figure out that it/life is just the mind, a dream.

A few of these sages SPENT years trying to figure out if there was any difference between  sleep-dreaming and being awake, life.

They observed how their mind worked when it slowed down in thoughtless-meditation. When they compared notes they ALL  agreed UNIVERSALLY  that they could not observe thoughts in thoughtless meditation because the mind was the thoughts that it was observing.
They also ALL  agreed UNIVERSALLY that thoughts were completely disconnected (with universe-vanishing quantum-gaps ) and that they were totally unpredictable. Modern Physics would echo these exact same findings 5000 years later with quantum-gaps and the Uncertainty Principle. .

Since the mind was the thoughts it was trying to observe, and since thoughts were disconnected by quantum-gaps, and totally unpredictable, these sages figured that there was no such thing as thinking because it was just a thought. And if there was no thinking then life was exactly like a dream ... and no  matter how unreal this life gets it always has to appear real.

But then what was this dream called life all about if it was all just the mind, a dream?
They thought when there was no such thing as thinking and this only made them think even more about what this dream/life was all about if there was no such thing as thinking....if the mind did not work then what was it all about... ?

There was one  sage who was obsessed with trying to figure out what this mind and its body was all about with its non-thinking. And it took him several years to digest all this thinking  that he  thought he was doing about his non-thinking mind ... and when he sort of defecated all this digested material out he erupted suddenly in unfathomable JOY and uncontrollably-insane Laughter.
He told his fellow sages with the utmost of Joy that Reality was this laughter/Joy  and the mind/life  was Reality's  fiction called seeking, "trying to understand," this defecation of digested-thoughts that was/is  this Laughter and Joy.  

This insane-laughter and unfathomable JOY has been called Kundalini, the Holy  Spirit or Consciousness or Samadhi. Its knowledge has been handed down to us diluted by intellectuals and their scriptures and gods and their religions as the non-duality of Advaita.

It would take 5000 years before mankind would find something that was like this  Consciousness, Kundalini.  
It is  called a black-hole.
Consciousness is like a black-hole and thoughts,
the mind/life-dreams,
are like  planets/galaxies appearing only  to disappear
into this Reality which is the  black-hole of thoughts
called Consciousness.

[malim]

Fascinating article you have posted,

you are correct about alot of things such as the bliss and happy state.

i believe our consciousness is from a different world and might have been put here through a quantum black hole or something.

you remind me of an OBE that i had couple of years ago, i came from playing football and was so sore i fell asleep instantly on my back, then i found myself sitting on the floor looking at the door how i ended up in that position with no transition is amazing, i could here my brothers playing game in the other room, but the clarity of the experience was amazing, and then i blacked out and woke up in the morning, maybe this blacking out thing might be instant transportation from one location to another like a worm hole.

i think we exist in waves of dimensions that we can tune and be aware of if we learned how to.

I think the reason why life sometimes feels like a dream is because we are a wave of energy.

[genep]

Fascinating article you have posted,

you are correct about alot of things such as the bliss and happy state.

i believe our consciousness is from a different world and might have been put here through a quantum black hole or something.

you remind me of an OBE that i had couple of years ago,...............

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When I started meditating I had some weird feelings that I was going "out of body." I read everything on the subject ( eg 4+ books by Robert Monroe alone.)  Nothing happened for a year or so and then I had three dreams/OBE experiences that made me laugh. Since then I don't take my thoughts/dreams seriously.

#1  OBE – I was sleeping in my recliner and I dreamed I was lying on the floor. When I opened my eyes, in the dream, I was looking up at the recliner and there was no body sleeping there.
#2 The same scenario but this time when I opened my eyes I looked up from the floor to see my body in the recliner.
#3 The same scenario but this time when I opened my eyes I was still in the recliner looking down at the empty floor (that I thought I was looking up from.)

After these 3 OBE dreams/? I know that the mind will give me what it wants, and what it wants/dreams, or cares about,  I could care less.

For me, life is a big dream with all sorts of dreams, OBEs and astral-travels, and dreams inside of dreams like movies, and novels and computers, hypnosis and drugs   ... inside these dreams.

Now when I go out walking at night I  just pretend that I'm "out of body" – it's exactly the same but a hell of a lot more real/fun.

-- another dream