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Theory on how parallel universes form

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Ybom

Hmmm, I don't think that completely fits with string theory. To me it always has stated that the strings for every path were always there. If they aren't, then it's too much like a computer program that generates stuff on the fly, as needed, and then archives it when done for possible later use (or maybe it gets gobbled up by the Langoliers...*shiver*).

As for the order things go in, I think you should research "zigzag databases". They kind of open your eyes up to some further possibilities into reality, if you can translate them into choices.
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beavis

Every possible thing existing is wasteful. I cut it with ockham's razor. String THEORY not fact.

like a computer program that generates stuff on the fly, as needed, and then archives it when done for possible later use

There is no need to archive it because all time exists now. Its just there.

"zigzag database" brought up 3 webpages on google, and it appeared to be a typo. Show me a website.

Ybom

http://xanadu.com/zigzag
http://savtechno.com/docs/z/ZLanguage.html

beavis: what I was originally posting to was your statement:
"...It takes energy to connect unconnected energies to each other. A parallel location isnt created at every choice like quantum theory says. Only when somebody wants to spend their energy to create a small similar (almost copied) parallel location, is one really created. That is efficient..."
To me this doesn't properly quantify what quantum>string theory imposes. Your next post: "There is no need to archive it because all time exists now. Its just there." This takes a path around what you are saying really. What I'm pointing out is that no matter how basic or no matter how complex something is, even noticing a flash of inspiration come and go in a split second, it exists at all points in time. This also holds true even for connecting unconnected energies. You really don't have to connect them! They were already connected some time in the future, even if you didn't follow through with connecting them. All possible paths are always there.
This concept is apart from the down to earth theory that somewhere in the cosmos there is a big database recording every action we do and take. This is a limited concept, since it doesn't realize everything we don't do.

Tell me if I missed anything!
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jilola

Perhaps intent is what creates a possible starting point for a given future that gets pruned when it becomes unfeasible.
Each choice that has a certain level of intent is a potential future history until other choices make its probability low ebough to become a dead end and thus to be pruned from the search space for possible futures.

This would allow futures that are witin the current search space for the present course of reality, even parallel to it until a point is reached where one or more of the parallel courses become unfeasible and gets deleted, so to speak.

A merging of potential futures would still pose the problem of integrating the different pasts that lead to the present at the merging point but this could be taken care of by allowing the past to be rewritten (think censored history and the maxim "the winer writes the history") and by allowing past memory of only paths(==pasts) close enough to be consolidated by creative history.

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Jouni

kiauma

Robert A. Heinlein, 'Number Of The Beast'.
Non semper ea sunt quae videntur.

kiauma

quote:
It takes energy to connect unconnected energies to each other


Are you talking about Quantum entanglement?  IF so, please point to a website that explains through what medium entanglement is established, how much energy it takes, and how it is sustained.
Non semper ea sunt quae videntur.

beavis

Yborn you speak with too much dogma. Why should I believe everything that could exist does?

jilola I mostly agree, except that some of the parallel times/locations are at the exact same event, some are different, and some share the same events but interpret them to be different.

kiauma I'm not talking about quantum entanglement, but I'm sure its related in some way.

kiauma

You forgot that sometimes the events are displaced in time.  Any delay we attribute to normal physical lag - but what about when we get a result before the stimulus??

I hope this link works...
http://ahsc.biocom.arizona.edu/www.quantum-mind.org/pdfs/presentiment.pdf
Non semper ea sunt quae videntur.

kiauma

Can someone explain to me how to get these links to work correctly?  [xx(]
Non semper ea sunt quae videntur.

beavis

I dont see any problems with a result "before" the cause. All time exists "simultaneously".

Ybom

beavis
Sorry about the time between responses. Anyways, regarding your statement that I am too dogmatic: I'm just explaining how I see something work. If I came across as too dogmatic, could you please elaborate further beyond your single question? I think how I'm about to answer it may not be along the correct thought path, but if it is, then so be it!

"Why should I believe everything that could exist does?"
I respect your stance completely, beavis. All I'm stating here is a possibility that if it could exist, it does; only possibility, not 100% truth. I was looking into this possibility and stating that I think something like this could be incorporated into theory, since it would answer the question: "Where do all those random thoughts that I have go?" Now, I know you're thinking that they just poof into thin air, simply a process the brain has of changing what it's focused on. However, I haven't met anyone that hasn't even taken a second thought onto this process, exept myself. I wanted to try to seek out and make sure that this was true. You seem to think it is, but have you really ever thought about it? Do you believe this is one giant computer and not something more? "I'm the value at row 201 column A, nice to meet you!" [:P]

kiauma
You have to use forum code. You use brackets, [ and ], not < and >.
This would work as (no spaces): [ url ] www.whatever.com/whatever/whatever.htm [ /url ]
Since there aren't many perfect things in this world, neither is forum code. I don't think they have implemented a way to launch from a new window. To combat this, just let people realize that they could right click and select 'open link in new window'.
Anyways I can't open your links, so I can't accurately overview and post what I think about them, until you fix them. I pray you will soon.
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beavis

This is 1 person's path in events in 1 parallel location (i dont like "universeS"):

A-->B-->C-->D-->E-->F

Somebody else takes the path

A-->B-->D-->C-->E-->F

It doesnt have to be a path, but which things they percieve to be together. Adjacent letters are together.

Those 2 people can influence each other at C and D directly.

But what if the things that person3 sees together disagree with your path so much that you cant comprehend them being that way and still remain sane in your own reality...

F-->E-->A-->C-->B-->D

The same subatomic particles can be shared between your parallel locations, but they appear to move randomly and in random ways because yo cant see the other things affecting them. Sometimes they will appear to leave your location and go to the parallel one, like at the 0 of the quantum wave function. Or they can be all in yours, 1 in the wave function.

It takes energy to connect unconnected energies to each other. A parallel location isnt created at every choice like quantum theory says. Only when somebody wants to spend their energy to create a small similar (almost copied) parallel location, is one really created. That is efficient. More agreeing with quantum theory, it only exists when you look at it, but not before.