Cause of the so called "bad luck"/"13th friday"-like days

[cesm23]

I have to ask if anyone ever discovered any connection of the so called bad luck days that all people have in relation to the actions or hobbies they have, because i think i have discovered it in my case, this is something so incredible, i need to know if this happens to other people or not : everytime i play violent pc games (for example FPS shooters or envolving destruction) or watch tv shows or animes about fighting (dbz more specifically but also other animes) or with some kind of violence, something very strange happens the next day : i start getting some kind of misterious "bad luck" that lasts sometimes for one day or a few days, depending of the amount of minutes i played or watched the tv show. For example, i do more mistakes and have slower mental thinking in those days, and people start yelling or "bullying" a lot more often and picking on me for things they don't usually pick, and i am talking more specifically at my job with my boss, but it's also with other persons, like my family. Also i noticed my clumsyness increases a LOT in those times, i also have a lot more cases in which i lose my temper and uncontrolled ego situations like arguing with someone, and usually i have a normal control on this when not during these times (since i am actively trying to avoid arguments all the time).

Yes i know everyone will immediatly say this is pure coincidence, but i actually refrained myself of playing those games and tvshows for several days, and those situations were a lot more rare to happen and my life considerably improved along with my "luck" (i quote this since i believe in LOA and i don't believe in luck exactly). As soon as i tried to watch just one of those violent tv shows, or play a video game, just once, in the following day the "bad luck" INSTANTLY came back! Believe me i tried these tests many times (not just 2-3 times, 10 or more times), and very rarely i have "bad luck" days like this when not watching those tvshows or playing games. I even notice the amount of "bad luck" i get is directly proporcional to the amount of violence present in the less violent tv shows i watch and the duration in minutes i watched it.

Since it's VERY hard to me to get rid of these hobbies, and i end up suffering a lot if i refrain myself permanently of doing them, i would like to know if this is normal or not and if anyone at all has any idea of what the heck is this, and if anyone ever had a situation like this and a possible fix, because this definetly isn't normal, it's so bizarre that in fact no one believes me, it's almost like this is black magic, psychic attacks or some kind of possession. It's almost like the law of attraction manifests SO FAST that it attracts similar situations to me to the ones i saw in the tvshows or video games, another strange thing is that it's always stronger when it's about violent things, when it's about positive things, it's not that strong...

Also i considered the chance that this could be somekind of side effect of negative thinking, or because of me actually BELIEVING this would happen this way, but this started to happen LONG before i even noticed or discovered that this was the cause of the bad luck days.

[gdo]

Friday 13 is when the Knights Tempar were attacked by agents of the French King Phillipe.   It was a bad thing for the Knights Templar.   The rest of the superstition is just that, superstitious, unless you start a subconcious habit of having bad luck on that day.

[CFTraveler]

It's the law of mind action (loA) at work.

[Xanth]

It's the law of mind action (loA) at work.

^ entirely mind driven

Friday the 13th is actually my luckiest day.
Why?
Because I believe it is. 

[Stookie_]

I play violent video games and watch horror/slasher movies without repercussions or feeling guilty. If they make you feel bad or guilty, then I could see how it may effect your outside life.

And of course, if your hobby makes your life suck, get a new one that is fun and makes life better: Play pinball!!!

[cesm23]

It's the law of mind action (loA) at work.

Law of mind action ? You mean, law of attraction? I ask that since it's the first time heared that name (law of mind action) If you mean law of attraction then yes that's what i think, i just find it strange that it happens SO quickly, in a matter of hours, but if that is true it should happen to EVERYONE not just me, unless you don't meant the law of attraction...

Friday the 13th is actually my luckiest day.
Why? Because I believe it is.

Lol i just used the name 13th friday to exemplify  the kind of day that is "usually" associated to a very bad luck day, i actually myself DON'T believe that 13th fridays are unlucky days since nothing different happens to me in 13th fridays.

I play violent video games and watch horror/slasher movies without repercussions or feeling guilty. If they make you feel bad or guilty, then I could see how it may effect your outside life.

What ? That means it just happens to me? So in your case you don't get more impatient or losing control in situations in which the ego is contradicted, after playing violent games earlier? Incredible then this just happens because i believe it does? That's strange because actually the law of attraction would sooner or later start manifesting about that.

One of the reasons i partially feel the need to get rid of these hobbies is because of the law of attraction, for example, watching violent stuff or tv shows with people displaying negative emotions often will inevitably attract the same things into our lives either we believe on that or not, isn't this true ? It's mostly because this lately i started to worry about the hobbies i have, i don't want to attract such things to my life i JUST want to keep them in the FICTIONAL world, but unfortunately that's not how the LOA works i presume... Besides that i would of course keep these hobbies (specially because i have obssessive compulsive behavior and even if i wanted i am not able to get rid of these hobbies).

[CFTraveler]

Yes, cesm23, the effect most people call LoA was called Law of Mind Action  prob. in the late 1800's, (and I'm sure other things before that)  but when it was made more 'public' by modern authors (such as Gregg Braden, et al) the Law of Attraction aspect of it was used and labeled.
But yes, essentially.

[personalreality]

there is a simple psychological explanation that requires no metaphysics or other hocus pocus.

it's called priming.

your mind is primed with a certain scenario and you subconscious leads you to act in a corresponding manner.

you play violent games or watch violent tv and your subconscious is primed with anger/violence/pessimism/etc.

for a certain amount of time afterward (different depending on you) your mind allows for scenarios that correspond.

your boss isn't being a willy, your behavior and attitude for the day will now illicit that response in him/her.

this is the psychological explanation for what the new age movement calls the law of attraction (though they sometimes include an aspect of nonphysical/psychic influence - like you're "sending out vibes" or something; not saying i don't believe in such a thing, but it's not really necessary for an explanation of this situation).

[Stookie_]

What ? That means it just happens to me? So in your case you don't get more impatient or losing control in situations in which the ego is contradicted, after playing violent games earlier? Incredible then this just happens because i believe it does? That's strange because actually the law of attraction would sooner or later start manifesting about that.

If the video games make you feel violent or aggressive, then yes, I suppose those could manifest in some nasty ways. But video game are just straight-up fun for me, and I have a lot of fun in my life. I'm far from being aggressive or acting like a character in the game or expecting those thing to really happen.

But if they make things suck, why do them? Seriously, play pinball.

Stookie rockin an Eight Ball:

[cesm23]

there is a simple psychological explanation that requires no metaphysics or other hocus pocus.
it's called priming.
your mind is primed with a certain scenario and you subconscious leads you to act in a corresponding manner.
you play violent games or watch violent tv and your subconscious is primed with anger/violence/pessimism/etc.
for a certain amount of time afterward (different depending on you) your mind allows for scenarios that correspond.
your boss isn't being a willy, your behavior and attitude for the day will now illicit that response in him/her.
this is the psychological explanation for what the new age movement calls the law of attraction (though they sometimes include an aspect of nonphysical/psychic influence - like you're "sending out vibes" or something; not saying i don't believe in such a thing, but it's not really necessary for an explanation of this situation).

Wow... believe me i never heared of "priming" before, but after looking up on wikipedia i think i now understand what that is. Maybe indeed this is indeed part of the problem in this case.

your boss isn't being a willy, your behavior and attitude for the day will now illicit that response in him/her.

What you mean by this, it means THEIR subconcious are going to react this way, only because MY subconcious was primed with this, therefore explaining that thing of the "psychic influence" ? If yes then indeed i noticed that, i think the only solution for this until i am able to get rid of the desire to play such games or watching those tv shows, is just to LEARN to be present and able to accept when they get angry to me, i notice that sometimes i AM able to control myself on that aspect even on these "bad luck" days. By the way what you mean by "willy" ? (my native language isn't english) i think i already heared that expression before but i can't remember what i means.

If the video games make you feel violent or aggressive, then yes, I suppose those could manifest in some nasty ways. But video game are just straight-up fun for me, and I have a lot of fun in my life.

Wait a minute... but i DON'T feel violent or agressive when playing those games (unless, of course, i am playing in a game without manual save feature and i lose and i have to start a mission all over again THAT indeed makes me feel agressive only because i have to start all over again! LOL But that happens in anything i do not just in violent games) so most of the times i feel a LOT of fun (not because of the violence itself, even tough i absolutly love destruction or destroying stuff in games but i never had problems controlling myself with that in real life) playing such games, also i don't only like violent games, i also like adventure games and other ones.

"I'm far from being aggressive or acting like a character in the game or expecting those thing to really happen."

Yeah that's what i mean, i NEVER ever felt doing such things too, he problem is, AFTER playing the game, sometimes in the next day in a situation i am having fun doing another activity, if someone interrupts me, usually i react a bit more angry and do a bit of shouting to the person leaving me alone, more than usual when not playing games in the previous days so the priming theory makes sense EVEN if in the game itself it's not about shouting to someone, but that's all, i never ever felt desire to anything remotly close to what i do in the game itself or what i see in tv shows. There is one thing that bothers me on tv shows, it's seeing people angry in tv shows THAT does bother me, and it's that i am being trying to avoid in real life, because i already suffered so much with that all my life that it's become a phobia, specially if it's with my boss, so usually i fast foward such scenes on tvshows.

Playing pinball? Yeah right, that makes me feel worse, i mean, boooring... lol but i do play solitaire lately too (in fact lately i only play that since i am avoiding violent games because of the tests).

[Stookie_]

Maybe it's not the game, but zoning out in front of a screen for too long. I can say that sitting in front of something and zoning out makes me feel "blah" later. Or maybe the games don't effect me much because I don't play them as long. I normally don't play any more than an hour at a time. (I spend more time reading than playing).

But if your connecting the violence in the game with the way you act the next day, then it obviously is effecting you. It's cool that you've made that connection and want to change, however you choose to do that.

[personalreality]

What you mean by this, it means THEIR subconcious are going to react this way, only because MY subconcious was primed with this, therefore explaining that thing of the "psychic influence" ? If yes then indeed i noticed that, i think the only solution for this until i am able to get rid of the desire to play such games or watching those tv shows, is just to LEARN to be present and able to accept when they get angry to me, i notice that sometimes i AM able to control myself on that aspect even on these "bad luck" days. By the way what you mean by "willy" ? (my native language isn't english) i think i already heared that expression before but i can't remember what i means.

the forum censors "profanity".  it considers the word d-i-c-k profanity and replaces it with the word willy.  i meant jerk basically.

your subconscious is primed with these ideas of "hostility" and your behavior corresponds.  your boss' subconscious then picks up on your behaviors (all of the nonverbal communication - tone, body language, attitude, etc.) and they react accordingly.  neither of you are consciously aware of any of it, but it's happening.  the majority of our interactions are nonverbal, and if your subconscious is primed with a certain idea, it shows in your nonverbal actions.

[cesm23]

your subconscious is primed with these ideas of "hostility" and your behavior corresponds.  your boss' subconscious then picks up on your behaviors (all of the nonverbal communication - tone, body language, attitude, etc.) and they react accordingly.  neither of you are consciously aware of any of it, but it's happening.  the majority of our interactions are nonverbal, and if your subconscious is primed with a certain idea, it shows in your nonverbal actions.

Oh my god... well that explains everything then.

Ok now there's something real important i would like to know how the heck is done, as i told before i am asperger, and i also have the obssessive compulsive behavior that is normal on aspergers, therefore it is VERY hard to get rid of things i like a lot, and unfortunately many of them are related to violence, and i tried many times to stop wanting them, but if i stop "feeding" with them for some time, the obssession and need for them starts to increase day by day, and believe me no matter how i try to avoid them, it seems the stronger the desires for them get. This is something i don't understand, is there some kind of universal law in which the most we try to avoid something, the stronger the need for it gets?? Because unfortunately i find that problem in everything i try to stop liking (specially when it's about wanting to lose sex fetishes that i see that are also causing a great deal of negative priming), and it's on this i need urgent help but i understand that it's very complicated issues and almost no one is able to help on this.

But probably there is a very specific way in how to deal with the desires either them being desires for fun (playing games or watching tvshows), or the sexual urges for some fetishes, because trying to avoid any of this it just makes the desires stronger in medium term (even to the point i start to daydream several times a day about them, in a obssessive way), so how to we deal mentally with these things? I already tried to just ignore them and not feeding them, but it has the same result as just avoiding them, it just makes the desires stronger later. Also i am of course doing meditation as well but of course... that will takes a VERY long time to be able to affect this, i have to do something meanwhile to be able to starting to get rid of the desires as soon as possible because of the negative priming they all cause.

[personalreality]

do not take offense to my response.  i have some apparently "extreme" views of psychology and i have encountered some serious hostility in response to my perspective.  i should also let you know that i have a bachelor of psychology and study psychology on my own as well, so i'm not uninformed when i make these statements.  in truth, my views aren't extreme, they are simply opposed to the disease model that is the normal treatment right now.  people like to have a disease to blame, it takes responsibility for their conditions away from them and places it on an intangible enemy.  so it's not surprising that some people react so angrily when i tell them they don't have a disease.

anyway, to my point.

so they told you that you have aspergers and OCD, understood.  the way modern psychologists/psychiatrists like to look at it is that you have a disease, caused by your genetics and neurological functioning that forces you to behave within a certain list of predetermined characteristics that define you as aspergers/ocd.  I call bulls*it.  if i could "diagnose" you, i would tell you that you have a personal history that has conditioned/programmed certain behaviors in you.  however, one of the aspects that i consider (that they do not), is your soul and the energies that contribute to your behavior that physical science doesn't recognize or acknowledge. 

it's easy to say you have a disease and medicate you.  it's easy to tell you that you have to perform your rituals or you will encounter debilitating anxiety (which you have undoubtedly encountered).  what isn't easy is to tell you that you are responsible for your mental health.  you say you have tried to handle it, but you can't.  and i don't doubt that in the slightest because no one teaches us how to really be in control of our own minds (some conspiracy buffs might even say that is the point).  but it is your responsibility to heal yourself because no one else can.  it will take intense discipline, which is very difficult when the type of discipline needed goes counter to your compulsions. 

what you need to do is learn how to turn your intellect inwards and observe your emotions/behaviors/compulsions/conditions.  you need to become astutely aware of what is happening in your environment that will illicit the emotion or compulsion (or whatever you want to call it) and refuse to react.  the majority of people in this world have no control of themselves AT ALL (even if they think they do).  we are all just reactions, nothing more.  we react to our environment unconsciously and then think that it is just our emotions which are out of our control.  this is not true.  we can be in complete control, but it takes time and practice and no one teaches us how handle emotion when we're growing up.  each and every one of us are basically narcissistic balls of reaction, we're not real people.  but we can be.

so for some actual practical advice.  if you don't meditate, you need to.  regular meditation allows you to rise above the emotional pendulum of physical reality.  it allows you to realize that you are not your body, your body is your transportation.  don't get me wrong, the body is important, it is your partner and needs to be well taken care of.  but you will be much better able to do that if you do not identify with your emotions and realize that emotion is a physiological response of your sympathetic nervous system to it's environment.  your emotions/feelings/compulsions ARE NOT YOU.  one of the laws of reality taught in hermetism is the law of rhythm.  everything ebbs and flows, including your emotional reactions.  if you are able to rise above the rhythms of the physical reality you will not be afflicted by "diseases" like aspergers or OCD. 

i can not tell you exactly how to do it.  for that i am sorry.  but that is the nature of the journey, it is your journey and you have to figure it out.  but i can assure you that through quiet inner reflection, the answers will come.  your self knows the answers and it will help you, but you have to listen.

well, that's my two cents worth.

[cesm23]

Ok it's best i reply this by PM, we can continue this later when you can.

to Stookie_ :

One thing i forgot, can you name specific violent video games or even the violent tvshows you watch ? It's just to see if any of them happens to be the same as the ones i noticed that affected me or not. Also it's strange that they don't affect you because i also haven't played long, i only played about 15-20 minutes and that alone was enought. But it's not possible that i am the only one affected by this, you're sure it doesn't really affect you? I am  not talking of course of behaving EXACTLY like in the games (LOL) but things like getting angry a lot easier for contraditions on anything, having less patience when talking with someone or reacting more agressively than normal, because i find very strange that priming only affects SOME people and not all, unless it's also dependent of those that are more suggestionable...

[Stookie_]

Ok it's best i reply this by PM, we can continue this later when you can.

to Stookie_ :

One thing i forgot, can you name specific violent video games or even the violent tvshows you watch ? It's just to see if any of them happens to be the same as the ones i noticed that affected me or not. Also it's strange that they don't affect you because i also haven't played long, i only played about 15-20 minutes and that alone was enought. But it's not possible that i am the only one affected by this, you're sure it doesn't really affect you? I am  not talking of course of behaving EXACTLY like in the games (LOL) but things like getting angry a lot easier for contraditions on anything, having less patience when talking with someone or reacting more agressively than normal, because i find very strange that priming only affects SOME people and not all, unless it's also dependent of those that are more suggestionable...

Well, it's not that I think they can't affect someone, I'm sure they can. But I do feel that a person doesn't have to be. I think that we have the ability to choose how certain things effect us, especially things that we willfully choose to do. If you feel on some level that what you're doing is immoral or negative in some way, it will in turn have a negative effect. If I felt this kind of stuff was bringing me down in any kind of way, I wouldn't do it. I have fun and then I'm done. I also read and meditate on a daily basis and stay fairly mindful throughout the day (or try to).

As far as games I've recently played: GTA4, Red Dead Redemption, Crysis, & Bioshock 2. (and Portal 2 lately, but it's not violent). I don't watch much TV, but I love horror movies. For me, it's all about having fun and entertainment, and in some contexts, a social commentary you can learn from.

[cesm23]

Well, it's not that I think they can't affect someone, I'm sure they can. But I do feel that a person doesn't have to be. I think that we have the ability to choose how certain things effect us, especially things that we willfully choose to do. If you feel on some level that what you're doing is immoral or negative in some way, it will in turn have a negative effect. If I felt this kind of stuff was bringing me down in any kind of way, I wouldn't do it. I have fun and then I'm done. I also read and meditate on a daily basis and stay fairly mindful throughout the day (or try to).

So... maybe that's the difference, you actually meditate on a daily basis and keep mindful so probably that's why that problem of getting angry or violent doesn't happen to you then... So the only way i see is to keep doing meditation as well because if this doesn't affect you then it SHOULD not affect me as well, specially because i didn't even know such thing as priming existed before, and i only started to notice a relation between the increased "bad luck" and violent stuff recently and before that i didn't actually ever felt guilty or immoral when playing violent games or seeing violent tvshows, by the contrary i even refused to believe that such things would have an effect on me. Ironically, it seems it's the opposite that's been happening...

As far as games I've recently played: GTA4, Red Dead Redemption, Crysis, & Bioshock 2. (and Portal 2 lately, but it's not violent).

Yeah that's exactly the kind of games i play as well, by the way i played bioshock 1 a few months ago, but at the time i haven't noticed the relation yet so i don't know if it primed me or not. But if you play ALL this without being affected... then priming can't be the cause of the "bad luck" in my case, it has to be something else that i will have to try to findmyself.

I don't watch much TV, but I love horror movies. For me, it's all about having fun and entertainment, and in some contexts, a social commentary you can learn from.

Yeah that's exactly why i watch those violent shows on tv it's precisely for having fun an entertainment (by the way i dislike horror movies those DO INDEED affect me at a conscious level indeed so it's those i should really avoid) so i don't understand why these uncontrolled bursts of anger afterwards.

Anyway thanks for the help