Monadic and Logoic planes-did someone actually reach those

[kajaLove]

hiya

http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/Wingmakers/The%20seven%20Cosmic%20Planes.html

If you follow the link above you will find a description of planes above astral plane and so I was wondering how or who actually reached Monadic and Logoic plane .Afteral,someone had to reach it in order to describe it.
But by the sound of it noone should be able to reach those levels since same article claims that  that spiritual masters are on atmic plane

Also that article states that akashic records are on the buddhic planes while bruce claims it's in between astral and mental planes.So which is it?

bye

[Telos]

Any object on any plane has a counterpart on all the higher planes. ... Each person has not only a physical body, but a separate astral body and a body on the higher planes.

Sounds like we're already there.

[Tayesin]

Telos,
we are already there...  we just need to re-experience to start Re-membering.

KajaLove,
There are so many different names for all the levels of the realms from different belief-systems that it is all a bit confusing.

For me there are the lower astral...like RTZ and other dense areas, then slowly raising in vibration we go up through other astral layers...including the mental layers...keep going to Monroe's Focus 27 level....the Park and the Akasha are here...  divided evenly between two layers...the astral realms and the next that I call the Soul layers.

At the Soul layer you are able to connect with your Higher-Self...  journey/project anywhere in the cosmos.. in any dimension..  any timeframe.

These layers are levels just like the astral levels..only much higher in Awareness.  This is the region of souls incarnating with complete awareness... Masters.  And it is here that you are able to reintegrate all the various incarnations and Beings you are being now.

Above those layers is what I call the Oversoul layers.  It is here where you can move beyond the perceptions of world and Universes, into levels that don't make any sense according to our human perceptions of things...  to see and experience the hugely magnificent portion of the whole that you really are.

So I tend not to use the other belief-systems concepts of all the named levels because I think they are way to confined...  mainly because so few individuals have ever experienced them.

I see the Astral levels as being the smallest, most confined and dense that there are in existence... next to the physical...  and just like area of the Spectrum that we use to see and hear, it's the tiniest portion of what is really there.

Hope this ramble is some help to you.

[redcatherine]

There is a hierarchy of spiritual realms with the "lower "levels being easier to achieve the vibration necessary to attain them than the higher levels .

The physical plane is called the 3rd and the Astral the 4th . Some call all above the Astral Mental . between the 4th and the 5th lies the Akashic Hall of Records but this connects to the Temple of Wisdom on the 7th and to Shamballah too . Some  call the Monadic Plane the 5th , the Logoic Plane the 6th and Shamballah  the 7th with the Devic plane still further and higher . There are many enumerations .

I have gone to these realms with  a closed circle spiritual development group . Many others have gone too .

From personal experience the astral is the lowest of the spiritual realms . The Monadic is the place where we become one with our group soul or Monad and with our higher self . We can visit the ashrams of the spiritual teachers in spirit called the chohans or the mahatma.

The next level is the one where we can see archangels and reach the Golden Chamber of Melchiezedek.

Then we can see Shamballah .

Then the closest ashram of sentient beings which are gray purple and are known by some as Arcturians from somewhere off the trajectory of the star Sirius .

Then the people known to live off a trajectory  from  Pleaides

Then we can  see the Devic Plane

The the Temples of Wisdom

Then the Elohim Council

The the Window on the Edge of the Universe

Then the ashram of the reptilian people that live off the trajectory of Ursa Minor and Ursa Major

Then the Chamber of the Queen of the Devas
The Divine Seat of Judgement in a Hall of Justice

If you follow the link above you will find a description of planes above astral plane and so I was wondering how or who actually reached Monadic and Logoic plane .

Many have gone there including some authors ie Dr. Joshua Stone and James Hurtak . Alice Bailey wrote her version about them :

7The highest plane - (Adi Life - Logoic plane - 1st aspect - Will
6The monadic plane - Human monads - Universal - 2nd aspect - Love
5The atmic plane - 3rd aspect - Intelligence
4The buddhic plane -  Pure reason - Intuition  
3 Physical Plane

Afterall,someone had to reach it in order to describe it.But by the sound of it no one should be able to reach those levels since same article claims that  that spiritual masters are on atmic plane Also that article states that akashic records are on the buddhic planes while bruce claims it's in between astral and mental planes.So which is it?

Both are right because by some systems  the Buddhic Plane is another name for that level . I don't think the naming is so important as the experiencing

Here is one more  chart of 7 of the cosmic planes :

7Divine -Logos ,Godhead  9th
6Monadic -Mahatma Chohans Spiritual Teachers Archangels 8th
5 Atmic 7th
4 Buddhic 6th
3Mental 5th
2Astral  4th
1Physical 3rd

Dr. Stone lists 48 dimensions in one of his charts .