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Tayesin

Hi,
Covelo,
Thank you for your kind words.  I'll try to keep it up, LOL

Alexd,
I agree that most people have trouble with the simplicity of it all, as we are very definately indoctrinated into thinking and believing that it HAS to be difficult.

Also, recently I have been having serious doubts about the Theory of us being what we believe, or that our beliefs manifest our realities.  And I base this non-conformist approach to the theory on having experienced that it is not so.  I do not believe in anything, I have experiences then form opinions on them instead of believing firstly then possibly experiencing it.  Nor do I establish a belief about what I experienced after the fact.  I simply report it as it is.  Because I experience as if naked, meaning to have no expectations, beliefs, or other impediments, I see clearly what I am experiencing for what it is and not what a Belief-system tells me I have to.

For example...  I have never held the belief in Angels, as per the historic christian concept of them, nor the new-age concept..  yet in the past few months a real angel-type being has been about when I am focused in the higher-awareness levels of the Self/Soul.  According to the Belief Theory, because I do not believe, then it should not be in my reality.  Yet here I am telling you this fact, I have seen and worked with an Angel called A-Riel (arial, U-riel) this last few months.  Because I am well experienced in the astral realms and soul levels I KNOW that this Being is a real entity.

Daem0n,
quote by, "this is not about not judging people but their beliefs, but not judging at all"

Yes, you are correct in pointing this out.  Non-judgement is the preffered way of course.  But hay, I'm still human and working on it.

quote, "by stating that you think you got it, i meant that you seem to jugde people's beliefs from your own point of view
it's a matter of leaving people open door, only they can cross them, and refuse to do that out of fear, but that doesn't mean i will be sitting and encouraging them all the time"


I understand what you are saying, as it is the way I was taught to do things too.  But, I'm not trying to push people to the door.   I am trying to show, in this blinded-atmosphere we call human awareness, that there is an easier way to get what you want in your spiritual growth.  One that will take years off your search and bring you to Clear higher-awareness much more easily that what is currently on offer.

What the problem I face is,  people don't think it can be easier because just about everyone before me says it's hard to do !!  They say this based firmly on the belief-sytem rules that they are attached to.  And the other problem I finally became aware of, apart from my approach at times, is that people's minds may blank out at the word Simple.. some people see it as meaning I am saying they are stupid because they see they can't do this.. in their mind.   Which is not what I have ever said !  

These perceptions, also based on Belief-ststem rules, is preventing them from reading just the words they see and understanding them in the way they are intended.  It's just human nature at this level.  Maybe, what I want to share with everyone is just too simple, so the average-mind that has been indoctrinated into it's behaviours cannot get into it.

Please understand this Daem0n, I wasn't complaining about RB's authority, I was illustrating a point about how people will not listen to others who really do have something valuable to share... unless they have the books, or other things seen as Qualifications.  That is all.  Not complaining, just illustrating !

Yes, I agree there is a considerable mis-understanding happening in our conversation.  This may well be due to the cultural-word perception differences, as each culture actually does see the same sentence quite differently.  Which is why I am posting at the Pulse in the first place.. to get a handle on how to express these different concepts so that as many people as possible will understand the meaning of the words used.  Good Training Ground this place.

Add to this factor the differences in personal perceptions and I am surprised we even can work out each others intentions !  LOL

I'm so glad to read you have reached the point of knowing you must find you answers for yourself, as no others can provide them to you.  Excellent  :D

As a personal opinion of my own, I do not understand why so many people want to think this is their last incarnation here.  When the Earth and all that dwell upon her moves through the vibration levels and settles in (so to say) there will be many more great Experiences for us Souls to choose incarnating here for.  I have already chosen to come back as often as possible over the next thousand years.. it's exciting times ahead and I want to be here for it.

Thanks again Daem0n.  8)   I am enjoying these conversations with you.

daem0n

yes, i know what was your point with RB, however if you won't handle your words carefully all message will be belittled, and it happened to me quite a few times(cultural adjusting one may say), even to the extent when i was ridiculed when i blurted out that aura of my friend looks beautiful in the sunlight, i can only laugh what would happen when i would start describing what happened to me, LOL

as for this being my last incarnation on earth, i haven't made it up, it just came to me as realization, and when i ask myself (high self too) i get the same answer without any doubt, well it doesn't matter anyway, i wouldn't change anything in my path even if i were to stay here more, it's funny how i get useless information that doesn't change anything, and yet people are dedicating lifetimes to those

alexd
about beliefs systems, guides are usually adjusting to those :)
when you expect nothing you may get true form, dunno
i don't really believe in it, when i get new information that contradicts the previous one, i test both and choose the one that offers greater opportunity

what i was trying to say that each truth offers different opportunities to grow, and that there is no absolute truth
if someone doesn't believe in angels, he has reasons to do so and thus he won't see any angels
but that doesn't mean that angels won't interfere with his life, he will just be unaware of it
saying that, when you have expectations you corrupt the flow of data to your mind, not reality
it came to me now as insight, cool :)
but you have to take into account that as each thought has energy, each disbelief has minute effect on the reality
so if someone is passionate communism, it will manifest mainly in his life and himself, becouse these are areas he has power over (to some extent, that is), but he won't be able to affect your reality
and now we have mages/adepts, which can affect your reality due to energizing thought, and finding energy resources to sustain them (plenty of those, average tree will do)
without expectations, they have relatively unobscured flow, and thus they can manifest what they want in their lives
all of us do so, but most of it is unconscious
you can strike a deal with your subconscious :D, to make it manifest your will (if it shifts towad more pleasure, bliss for example, it will go on it's own accord, but you have to ask him)
the same iwth high self, if you have big enough picture (for example multidimensional reality), true self (preprogrammed for this incarnation, normally obscured with conditioning), core self (just wills) and concious self - that is YOU, if you don't really want it you want get it, the more you want it the harder it is to get it, there is a way out of it, but you have to find it for yourself :P
and many more, which i can't recall now
take care
Search for the cause of self, in self
To find everything and nothing

daem0n

Search for the cause of self, in self
To find everything and nothing

Tayesin

Hi,
Quote by Daem0n, "however if you won't handle your words carefully all message will be belittled, and it happened to me quite a few times(cultural adjusting one may say), even to the extent when i was ridiculed when i blurted out that aura of my friend looks beautiful in the sunlight, i can only laugh what would happen when i would start describing what happened to me, LOL "

I for one would like to hear what you experienced during that event.

You are correct my friend.  This too has been my experience, as you know.  This may sound harsh or egotistical, but these next words are a quote from the old woman who is performing mentorship for me in this phase of growth, and was her response to my difficulty in getting Simplicity of the ground in the world.. "You can do nothing to help all those who are stuck in small-mindedness".

At first I had an emotional response to her statement, thinking she was being harshly critical of other people or my path.  Then as the months progressed I began to see clearly that she was correct... with no value judgements aimed at anyone.  In fact, in all the years I have known her she has never once been nasty to anything that lives, and this helped me clear my own mis-perceptions of her original statement.

Since Indoctrinated small-mindedness is what prevents other people from hearing or reading, then understanding the message, it begins to hark back to an ancient concept from the Bible... Not to throw pearls before swine.

Before anyone jumps on me for that...  :wink:  I never agreed with the statement in the first place, as to me it was making Value-Judgements about who can and who cannot be helped to opening their awareness further..  and you all know I think each and everyone one of us deseves to know they can do it easier and should therefore have the opportunity and information made available to them.

But, what I have discovered is that even some people will have the experience of Self for themself and completely miss the Importance of it in their lives !!!  

So, if we were to change the emotionally laden Biblical-words to something like... "Try not to throw away the gifts you share with those who will not see it's value as a gift."   That sounds much better to me, LOL.  

But it still flies in the face of my thinking that everyone deserves to know for themself that they are Great Spirits in their own right, and that it is themself who has the power to choose and grow in this life to KNOW who and what they really are as Souls.  And here lies the conundrum... again.  

Hopefully my almost finished book will put it out there for all those who are ready to take the next step in their personal evolution... and also hopefully, those who read it will experiment for themselves then discard the book completely !

Thanks guys.  :D

daem0n

oh, it was nothing particularily interesting, but then i just jumped at new level of auric sight, from seing the outline to outer shells of the aura, and in sunlight it was bright yellow mixed with other hues, that was first time when i saw it

as for quoting, aleister crowley was painfully right, dogs deserve to die
at first it didn't seem right, dogs being so nasty word and such, but eventually i understood after few talks that it was accurate

the journey of a thousand miles beggins with a single step, beautiful sentence, we would agree
but only if you are willing to take a step, brings it deeper doesn't it
then another, and another

those few people i met that were experienced in magic were always brought down by themselves, their emotions and fears, i'll give examples
talented hermetic mage, unstable becouse of fears of insecurity
intuitive seer that was more interested in normal life than pushing further
lightworker who broke down after almost killing person with her wish, and rejecting her gifts (empath too)
plain lazy psychic, very talented i must admit
thelemic mage limited by his "dark" style and judgement, he is pushing further, but at slow rate

it's funny that people think that metaphysics will solve their problems, when they amplify them
i achieved rudimentary balance before i started anything,  using only NEW  to remove blockages, after few swings i eventually stabilized myself
perhaps that is the reason why i am willing to move further, maybe not
i hope that someone will get something out of these words, i really do,
too much is wasted already
Search for the cause of self, in self
To find everything and nothing

Frank

Mike: Everything we materialise within the physical is already within the non-physical. Every TV program, every song, every piece of music, every radio broadcast, in fact everything and anything any of us (in whatever physical era) have either invented, are currently inventing, or ever will invent, is already present within the non-physical.

In the past, people have represented this phenomenon in various ways. Perhaps the most common being the notion of Akashic Records. In turn, people have naturally allied this idea to the physical representation of what we call a library. But, as is normal, people's knowledge and thinking moves on, to the extent where the old notions are being dropped in favour of a greater understanding of the reality. Like you say, anything and everything is possible via the correct attunement. Which is one of those things that is easier said than done, but far easier to do while non-physical. Well, that's my experience.

Within the Exchange Territories (Monroe's old Focus 27) people live very much like they did while physical. As such, they have friends, family and so forth. In my experience people form family groups based on many factors. Such as, like you say, could be members of a physical-life family, or whatever. People choose to incarnate together, for example, and afterwards they might have a chuckle about their adventures, and all that kind of thing. There's a myriad of reasons.

Yours,
Frank

daem0n

heh, seems thousand miles from here (we wrote that?, really?), doesn't it Tay?
just a reminder, the conclusions are yours ;)
Search for the cause of self, in self
To find everything and nothing