good old deja vu

[AdamJB]

Yep, its the old "deja vu topic" again.
basically I'm just looking for your opinions on the subject. i heard that it was normal to experience deja vu about once or twice a year, but ever since i started out with all this spiritual meditation type stuff I've been getting this an awful lot...seriously, its starting to take the tinkle..I'm talking like once every week or two. Do any of you get deja vu this much? what do you suppose it means? (I'm assuming that the increased frequency of deja vu and my new found spirituality is not a coincidence) So yeah that's about it, I'd love to hear what you've all got to say and if any of you know why the bejesus I'm getting this so often id like to know about it!

[AdamJB]

thanks runlola! how you come across all of these articles i may never know.
deju vu's weird though dontcha' think?
James S -  

Its just like my higher self shows me something that would happen in the future, and when it finally does happen, after several years, I get a very strong sense my higher self is telling me "see? I told you so!"

that's just what its like! when i get it its like a fraction of a second before something happens i remember seeing/feeling it before and then it happens and i jump about all surprised and confused, of course i see that happening a split second before i do it too, which leads to more confused jumping about (all my friends and family are used to this kind of behavior by now ) its almost like precognition...hell, maybe it is! its so hard to be objective about it. I find it hard to believe the explanation that the article presents (as interesting as it was) it just feels far too "real" to be so easily explained as a wonky-brain type thing. And  then there's a definite time correlation between the onset of this "chronic deja vu" and my beginning to meditate and study the metaphysical...i just don't know.

[unknown2012]

 hey guys! i get deja vu lots more than once or twice a year.
just last night i got it. i was sitting with my sister and her husband talking about something, and i could swear we had the same exact conversation before , everything seemed like a repeat lol. i asked them "didn't we have this conversation already?" and they're like "um.. no lol"

this has to happen to me like at least 3 or more times a month. it's so weird lol.

anyways i'm new to the forum and just started reading everything lol..
so hi

[James S]

Hi AdamJB

"I find it hard to believe the explanation that the article presents (as interesting as it was) it just feels far too "real" to be so easily explained as a wonky-brain type thing."

I SO agree!!
Just another case where science (in this case medical science) tries to rationalise and theorise something that they are really ill equipped to handle - like a 2 dimensional being trying to apply 2 dimentional physics to a 3 dimensional object. Sure they might see some repeatedly measurable specific brain activity, but what if they're only looking at the effect and not the cause?

I still maintian what I've said about the topic. I have to trust that the feelings I get when I experience Deja vu are telling me the right thing.

Blessings,
James.

[The Entropic Mind]

There was a period that lasted for about two months that ended a few weeks ago when I was getting STRONG, and overwhelming at times, deja vu about once every two days. Then I tried to write it down everytime it happened so that I could chart it and look for patterns, but that efficiently made it dissapear. I was really very upset at this because this deja vu pattern made me feel so in tune and special. I felt as though I were feeling me and myself at once over a sequence of different times.

I recemend that none of you write down deja vu as I did, it really minimized the whole thing for me in a hurry. Perhaps if you make a concious note and do it well after the experience happens to you and then write it down, but most definently don't write it down while its happening, thats a mistake.

[cainam_nazier]

Yeah, I'm 29 and I count on one hand how many times I have had Deja Vu.  But then again I don't have any memory problems.  In fact I am spilling over with useless information.

For some one who gets Deja Vu a lot I would have to ask a couple of major questions to help figure it out.

Are you often forgetful?
Do you set things down and then can't remember where after a few seconds?
Do you forget important things like paying bills, or going to appointments?
Do you forget to do things like eat or take medications?

Answering yes to questions like these could mean that you have a memory problem.  Deja Vu works two ways.  A:  Like described in the article there is a "misfire", so to speak, and with think you have experienced some thing before and you really haven't.  Or B:  There was a recording issue with the memory and the feeling of the memory is there but with out the information to go with it.  

Memory is an interesting thing.  It is a combination of hard and soft switches in the brain.  There is the physical hard wiring in the brain that controls memory.  Some times that switch can develop incorrectly, destroyed through drugs or decease,  or in the case of trauma can become damaged.  These things lead to a multitude of memory issues from simple gaps in memory to full blown amnesia.  

But there are also some soft switches in there, learned traits, which is why you can learn techniques that can increase your ability to remember certain facts or events.  Certain habits can control that which plays into the way that you learn, weather you are an audio, visual, or physical learner.

It's all very interesting.

[The Entropic Mind]

Yeah, I'm 29 and I count on one hand how many times I have had Deja Vu.  But then again I don't have any memory problems.  In fact I am spilling over with useless information.

For some one who gets Deja Vu a lot I would have to ask a couple of major questions to help figure it out.

Are you often forgetful?
Do you set things down and then can't remember where after a few seconds?
Do you forget important things like paying bills, or going to appointments?
Do you forget to do things like eat or take medications?

Answering yes to questions like these could mean that you have a memory problem.  Deja Vu works two ways.  A:  Like described in the article there is a "misfire", so to speak, and with think you have experienced some thing before and you really haven't.  Or B:  There was a recording issue with the memory and the feeling of the memory is there but with out the information to go with it.  

Memory is an interesting thing.  It is a combination of hard and soft switches in the brain.  There is the physical hard wiring in the brain that controls memory.  Some times that switch can develop incorrectly, destroyed through drugs or decease,  or in the case of trauma can become damaged.  These things lead to a multitude of memory issues from simple gaps in memory to full blown amnesia.  

But there are also some soft switches in there, learned traits, which is why you can learn techniques that can increase your ability to remember certain facts or events.  Certain habits can control that which plays into the way that you learn, weather you are an audio, visual, or physical learner.

It's all very interesting.

I have a pretty horrible memory. My stomach keeps me from forgetting to eat as far as that aspect goes. But thats still 4 out of 5; I guess that takes away the neat conotation of a spiritual experience from it, and ah, don't I feel niave.

[cainam_nazier]

Sorry...My bad.

But don't get me wrong there is that side of it as well.  And I forgot to mention repressed memory.

It is also entirely possible for some to have actually certain events through and dream or psychic event and mildly repressed or just forgot about it happening until the actual event is taking place.  But if that is the case then there is more information that tends to go with it.  You tend to remember the entire chain of events after.  Like you pick up a letter and get Deja Vu.  But then you know that some one will be knocking on the door followed by your mom calling you on the phone at almost the same time.  And then it happens in that order..exactly.  Those kinds of instances I would lean more towards a "true" psychic event not just the "wait, I've done this before" feeling.

Repressed memories can cause the Deja Vu event as well, usually traumatic events.  Not physical damage caused by an injury but a blocked memory.  But that is more like.....You drive past an inner section you thought you never been through before and blammo it hits.  "wait, I've been here before"....But then that is followed by...."Oh yeah,  that's where Tommy Two Tooth beat the snot out of me when I was five."  The memory gets blocked and then when your brain is ready to deal with it a triggering event allows the memory to come back.  In this kind of situation it's possible that you are subconsciously avoiding that location because of what happened there.  Or be you made a conscious choice not to go that particular path until it became habit and then you just kinda of find yourself there and then the memory surfaces.  But in either case, if your brain was not ready to deal with it then you could go by that spot a hundred times and not get the Deja Vu or have the memory surface.

[The Entropic Mind]

Sorry...My bad.

But don't get me wrong there is that side of it as well.  And I forgot to mention repressed memory.

It is also entirely possible for some to have actually certain events through and dream or psychic event and mildly repressed or just forgot about it happening until the actual event is taking place.  But if that is the case then there is more information that tends to go with it.  You tend to remember the entire chain of events after.  Like you pick up a letter and get Deja Vu.  But then you know that some one will be knocking on the door followed by your mom calling you on the phone at almost the same time.  And then it happens in that order..exactly.  Those kinds of instances I would lean more towards a "true" psychic event not just the "wait, I've done this before" feeling.

Repressed memories can cause the Deja Vu event as well, usually traumatic events.  Not physical damage caused by an injury but a blocked memory.  But that is more like.....You drive past an inner section you thought you never been through before and blammo it hits.  "wait, I've been here before"....But then that is followed by...."Oh yeah,  that's where Tommy Two Tooth beat the snot out of me when I was five."  The memory gets blocked and then when your brain is ready to deal with it a triggering event allows the memory to come back.  In this kind of situation it's possible that you are subconsciously avoiding that location because of what happened there.  Or be you made a conscious choice not to go that particular path until it became habit and then you just kinda of find yourself there and then the memory surfaces.  But in either case, if your brain was not ready to deal with it then you could go by that spot a hundred times and not get the Deja Vu or have the memory surface.

Ha, its ok. I'm still going to blissfully enjoy my deja vu when it comes!

[Mitch]

As I age, Deja Vus become more frequent and last longer each time...

I get them about twice a week, more or less. (Not too often is it less though)

They usually last a whopping 2 minutes. (Again, more or less)

The longest was about 8 minutes, it started normal, but then I realised I was 'Deja Vu-ing' and knew everything that was going to happen. Really cool.

I personally like Deja Vus, they spice up your day.

[AdamJB]

well, in case anyone's interested:

I stopped meditation and energy work etc for a good while, and guess what? no deja vu. maybe I'm just imagining it, there's no way to be sure I'm not, or maybe its a complete coincidence, but i have not experienced deja vu to anywhere near the same extent recently.

hardly conclusive evidence, i know. interesting though, wouldn't you agree?