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Darklon

http://www.psychedelicmeditation.com/ by Seamus Anthony

It is a free ebook on psychedelic meditation, he claims to get high through mediation. Just wondering if any of you have tried and got results, please don't be skeptical if you haven't because that is not the way to get it to work.

I was going to try it last night but I didn't have enough time and only got past the introduction but it is a good read on Rebel Zen Mastery  :lol: hahaha

proyect_outzone

I know since long time some concentration methods, which can let get me high. It has truly advantages to be able to get high without buying alcohol or other things.

Darklon

True that, drugs are a waste of money because I believe if you can get high from external substances then the same feelings can recreated from within and probably with stronger potency depending on skill, that and you shouldn't get tolerant LMAO :P .

Stillwater

Haha... the message of his essay is that....

If you want to get high, just meditate for 12 hours.

Noob.

It only takes like 2-4, maybe less.
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

Darklon

He says it takes him 4 hours in his ebook, I personally don't even think it takes that long but when I meditate I am usually preparing for an obe anyways so I just meditate for 30 minutes or so and move on to that.

mon9999

I personally use lesser banishment ritual of the pentagram 3 times a day.. and it really gives me a feeling of high! one in the morning one at noon and another one at night.. it has a very cleansing and elevating effect! and a feeling of being secure and protected  :-)

Lionheart

#6
 I found his PDF a good read, he has a good sense of humor and also brings up valid points about people's difficulties with meditation. I think that PDF would be better labeled "The Road to Astral Travel" because that would be the end result. You can never read enough, I learn more everyday. He had some valid tips in there.  :-)
If you wish to find a real high without drugs, try a Light/Sound Machine. My Laxman works to perfection for this.

CFTraveler

About how much are they?  Or have you already said?

mon9999


CFTraveler

I was asking Lionheart how much the Light and Sound machine costs. 

proyect_outzone

QuoteHaha... the message of his essay is that....

If you want to get high, just meditate for 12 hours.

Noob.

It only takes like 2-4, maybe less.

It takes less than 15 minutes even in every day conditions, like schools and waiting rooms (personally tested  :-D) if one has a bit practice and does it right.

Stillwater

Yeah, it definitely can be done fast- I was mainly poking fun at the statement the author made that you would need to stay up all night to do it, haha.
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

beavis

If you really want to get high, transplant half your brain out and half of a different brain in, play with your new mind, then transplant it back to normal.

Ihopeso

Why is it that you are 100% Completely aware of your capabilities to project into the world of thought where anything is possible, but your interested in getting an audio induced High? Do you not realize WHAT YOU HAVE?! People would have killed for this knowledge. But you flaunt it like "oh its no big thing I still concern myself with worldly affairs like Football and Television and stuff like that". So much anger built up I've got to get out of here.

Darklon

Quote from: Ihopeso on April 20, 2012, 09:57:55
Why is it that you are 100% Completely aware of your capabilities to project into the world of thought where anything is possible, but your interested in getting an audio induced High? Do you not realize WHAT YOU HAVE?! People would have killed for this knowledge. But you flaunt it like "oh its no big thing I still concern myself with worldly affairs like Football and Television and stuff like that". So much anger built up I've got to get out of here.
1: What the **** is your problem (notice: no "?" mark) 2: I did not make a mention of any "audio" in my thread, this is about a form of meditation.

You think you are so aware of things then why don't you know what the thread is about...

Stillwater

I think Ihopeso might have been thinking of one of those binaural / isochronic programs, lol.
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

Darklon

Quote from: Stillwater on April 23, 2012, 07:24:51
I think Ihopeso might have been thinking of one of those binaural / isochronic programs, lol.

I figured that but he kinda made me mad, like wtf lol.

Chaos Mage

I get high on real weed or phantasy joints.  I can smoke air (lol), all is drugs, all is excitement and euphoria.  Let the oxygen head rush fill you so you crash, stay up for five days on hard, then crash for six in transcendental love.  Sex can get you high, I like my orgasm on demand.

You can get high just by breathing meditation.  You can also give yourself a head rush and force all the blood to your brain, but you can only do this about five times every ten years, or you will explode the viens in your neck.  I know, my viens got pretty sore, so I had to stop.  Not only that, but it stops your heart for about twenty seconds.
Strength. Endurance. Speed. Resistance. Stamina. -these are dimensional, at density and frequency.
Will. Courage. Faith. Love. - these are spiritual, the power to effect Life Force.
Balance. Peace. Focus. Charge. Awareness. -mentally active self control

Stillwater

Yeah... that doesn't sound like a safe alternative, lol.
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

Chaos Mage

Well, life is more than skin stretched over bone.  It's more than the inner fruit and blood.  At the same time, it doesn't have to be, you can live and die, and dream your way into something that you want.  Flesh when flesh, spirit when spirit, yet, I've heard that the Buddhists say that there is no duality.  All is spiritual, or, Cosmic.  All but the Divine, which heads and creates all things.  Well that's what I figure.  But really, you can smoke imaginary drugs, it's the cheapest way to get high.  They really work too!  Just don't become an addict!
Strength. Endurance. Speed. Resistance. Stamina. -these are dimensional, at density and frequency.
Will. Courage. Faith. Love. - these are spiritual, the power to effect Life Force.
Balance. Peace. Focus. Charge. Awareness. -mentally active self control

Darklon

LMFAO, all I need is oxygen bro, pure... oxygen...

Stillwater

Well... pure oxygen would definitely have a striking effect on you, believe it or not.

Joseph Priesetly, one of the first people to figure out how to isolate it, by evolving it from Mercuric Oxide, wrote:  "The feeling of it to my lungs was not sensibly different from that of common air, but I fancied that my breast felt peculiarly light and easy for some time afterwards." 

Another time he called Oxygen "the good air", lol, because he had been experiementing with breathing pure oxygen atmospheres, and it made him feel powerful and invigorated; it is clear to me he had no idea what he made though, or what role oxygen plays in biology. The best the 18th century understood oxygen was that it was the one particular thing fire seemed to require.
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

p

Funny I just saw this, I've been pondering this question for the last week or so, but I was thinking something along the lines of..... say if one were to project inwards (Focus 2 of consciousness), and were to simulate whatever high, be it smoke a virtual joint or whatever technique, would it then be possible to keep this feeling upon returning to Focus 1?

Stookie_

F2 is already another state of consciousness... at that point there is no reason to alter your consciousness. Imagine having a great OBE with good clarity. Why try to lessen it?

Chaos Mage

sex can be considered an addictive action, but we don't need to astral project to have sex
sex is like getting high, and we can have sex with ourselves, isn't there something they call tantra which elongates the natural euphoria of sex, or sexual stimulation... i think it depends if you focus on it, but i don't know the trick
oh yeah man, you can smoke invisible drugs, drink invisible whiskey, if you want to try to practice self stimulation, try pretending that water is whiskey or something like that
emotions can also be addictive, you can get emotional by watching movies, porn, cartoons... i just watched some Golden Girls, laughing and crying, and i gotta say, it feels good.... been crying for other reasons too, which i can't exactly say on these forums
you can control your emotions, phantasy of a basic nature can assist the process of arousing new emotions
i think that we choose our drugs based on how we react to them, a monk wouldn't have to do drugs, and if he did, he would be impervious to it's effects, that's what i was raised to believe, from comic books and other sources
Strength. Endurance. Speed. Resistance. Stamina. -these are dimensional, at density and frequency.
Will. Courage. Faith. Love. - these are spiritual, the power to effect Life Force.
Balance. Peace. Focus. Charge. Awareness. -mentally active self control