I don't belive in evil...

[kako]

I don't belive in evil... I think there is confusion, ignorance and lack of awareness.

Love equals intelligence, love equals wisdom, love equals experience, love equals knowledge.

Gratitude is one of the most sublime and beautiful feelings. Sadness and depression comes from the difference between what you expect to live and what you actually live. Acceptance is crucial to live happily.

Bad or good does not exist, it is a matter of interpretation, it is a matter of choice.

I consider demons, black magic, and evil overall as a very imaginative thing, interesting to many, but still prone to be a fantastic thing.

What do you guys think?

[Killa Rican]

I cannot speak entirely from my experience since this isn't the right forum for it. I can only say I agree with you and don't agree with you at the same time. I think Good, bad, benevolent, malicious, and evil can all be tied down to Instinct. Humans are capable of good and bad. Many Spirit-Entitys are as well. Some are completely Benevolent while some would love nothing more than to watch your distorted body twisting in the wind while they laugh.

This is Where Semantics will play in now, Regardless if one wants to accept the word "Demon" which will come with the perception of a Satanic Catholic Demon image, many Spirit-Entitys can Be "Demonic" in nature, by there own Free will & choice OR Pure Instinct. I think it's important to know the difference what might be a True "demon" from a being with an Infernal Nature.

There is Light And there Is darkness in us humans, and the same will apply to the metaphysical realm. It should obviously. If we Humans have it in us, then there should be in many areas of the metaphysical realms Should they not? What came first the chicken or the egg?

Not everything is "Love & light".

As for Black Magick, It all boils down to Intent. Most who involve themselves in Black Magick are criticized if their personal ways appear morally questionable or go against what is typically accepted in effort of a peaceful world. An individual employing such methods has a vastly different moral compass (seemingly) than the average well-meaning human being - outrage will be a natural reaction.

My 2 cents.

[kako]

  What is the ultimate parameter? Is there even one? Believe in evil and you'll live among evil, believe in light and you'll live among light.. Choice is yours..

[Killa Rican]

I get that you don't like the "labels". Forget the Labels. Forget all labels for that matter. The world still is what it is. Wont change.

[kako]

  happy new year

[CFTraveler]

Happy New Year to you too! 

[kako]

The world still is what it is. Wont change.

You know what? I agree with you. I believe it is our ability to accept "that" (the fact that the world is what it is) what can enhance the quality of our lives. It is a matter of acceptance after all. However, don't you think that by accepting you get a broader leeway? And thus, you can start to become your own author or precursor of a life path? That enables you to choose what you want to live, and what you want to live among. What do you think?

I thank you for your previous posts, and I thank you in advance for whatever you might replay, for I believe that diversity in opinions and perspectives is what enriches and strengthens what we already think. It was me after all who said: "what is the ultimate parameter?"

Cheers!

[kako]

Happy New Year to you too! 

[w]

I don't think good and bad exist, at least not in such pure forms. I also think that one can't exist without the other.

The way I see it everyone, and everything, is a mix of good and bad - some leaning more one way than the other. Though what's considered good for one person obviously might not be considered good for another, so it's also a matter of perspective. Perspective between different people and different times - an apparently bad event can result in a lot of good, later on.

I think love is outside of good and bad. So it can't be either; it's beyond good and bad.

I agree that acceptance is important to be happy, perhaps even essential.

Just my opinion. Hope it made sense.

[Killa Rican]

Happy doomsday year to you both! ~_^

I agree with you too. But I think we might be thinking of two different things, since you did mention "Evil" and then mentioned other subjects such as demons and magick which may or may not be synonymous with each other. I have different thoughts on those but Then again that's an entirely different subject all together, so i don't know if you want to go there with this in your thread. So it's entirely up to you!  

I don't believe in "Evil" either, definitely not the religious sense of it anyways, but I believe in the concept of what Humans can instinctively portray as "Evil", in the grand scheme of everything else that's around us, especially comprehending the nature of things we have yet to understand. Fear. Intuition. Understanding(or lack thereof) everything else you need to rationalize. We can accept things for the way things are, but that doesn't necessarily make all cases acceptable when presented.

In the gist of it though I understand what your saying.  

[majour ka]

I don't belive in evil... I think there is confusion, ignorance and lack of awareness.

Love equals intelligence, love equals wisdom, love equals experience, love equals knowledge.

Gratitude is one of the most sublime and beautiful feelings. Sadness and depression comes from the difference between what you expect to live and what you actually live. Acceptance is crucial to live happily.

Bad or good does not exist, it is a matter of interpretation, it is a matter of choice.

I consider demons, black magic, and evil overall as a very imaginative thing, interesting to many, but still prone to be a fantastic thing.

What do you guys think?

Hi I come from exactly the same train of thought and belief as you, on most of the quotes your wrote.
However, if we are to study the balance of life that is created when the spirit that is to say the non manifest...manifests temporarily into to form, god had to create duality in order for the formless to take on the temporary existence of from. Within that duality IE positive and negative evil and bad has to manifest, otherwise there would be no pain, suffering, violence, famine, decay, anger etc...but the world is still an illusion...a dream of forms, so although evil does exist and effects the material world and thought forms, it is still a temporary manifestation of spirit and there for is ultimately still an illusion...lol

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[dreamingod]

Since physical reality has no solidity, it is not a place but a perceptual illusion, a perceptual construct.
From this level of understanding, good and evil are both ideas, concepts.
If one accepts the idea of good, one must also accept the existence of the idea of evil to give both reference points meaning.
Similarly, 'hot'  is 'needed' to define 'cold'.
'Right' is needed to define 'left'.
Without this duality, how can ideas be defined?

Some people believe that 'God' is only good without evil, but readily accept that 'God' is all that is.
If the idea of 'God' encompasses everything, doesn' this imply that 'God' also includes the expression of evil ?


On the human drama level, the existence of both 'good' and 'evil' is real,
because as physical human beings we all experience emotions & bodily sensations.
Generally we associate those who inflict pain and suffering as being evil, and those who promote peace, love and prosperity as being good.
However there is no absolute objective measurement in the degree of how someone or something is a little bit or extremely 'good' and 'evil.'
So each person has a subjective interpretation/perspective.

We each experience a physical body in a survival, competition type paradigm, how can we not have the expressions of 'good' and 'evil' ?
Do both 'good' and 'evil' serve us in the sense that these experiences promote spiritual growth towards love as we grow to understand how connected we all are.
Ultimately the harm that we inflict on others, we inflict on ourselves, as well as the love that we extend to others, we will receive.

I believe one day when this self realisation is achieved, we as one human consciousness will only perceive love without duality, as this is our natural spiritual state.

[embrace]

Couldn't agree more with the author of this thread. Evil is simply a different view on somebody else's view on good. Nobody means evil. All people follow their sensation of what's good. Funny thing is that different people have different definitions of good.

[Lionheart]

 One man's Angel is another man's Devil. It's all in the ways we all perceive different things.

[ZiggyMike]

What happens when someone hatches a plan to marry someone just because he thinks he will be "made" by leeching off the parents of the bride. He succeeds and then start molesting and beating up his wife when she fails to adhere to his milking plan, he also turns on his son inlawas and threatens their lives. All he thinks about is money money money... And could go to any length to get it... I mean any length! The young is with child and he doesn't even give a hoot about thier wellbeing.
The wife's family could put a stop to the thing but for love are trying to bring about peace..
Many people are getting hurt here and it seems that ignorance on the paths of the man is causing the said suffering, the suffering is "real" but. H e must have his way.
I know the duality of stuff exists, pain and happiness, but it is happening! It might as well happening on higher realms where it can even be more real. Ignorance might be the harbinger of suffering, but the suffering is real, it actually happens
When a man goes on a rampage and ends the life of 16 high school kids, the suffering of thier parents siblings and relatives are real.
If your son for instance gets drunk or is high on something and turns a loaded gun on your wife after raping her, would you allow him back into the family as if nothing happens? I know forgiveness is divine, I mean I will forgive before it even happens, but the deed has been done, nothing can change that.
I am just saying, ignorance breeds suffering and pain hurts,  we can't always switch off