there is no I but us no me but we. we are one.....we are in him...we are pain. he wants us to stop but we wont let him, we just toy with him..torturing him
could you elaborate?
or is this a kind of poem/ enigmatic phrase for us to ponder over?
if you mean god, i think hes the last person who could be tortured lol
Quote from: gangta on November 16, 2006, 23:52:27
there is no I but us no me but we. we are one.....we are in him...we are pain. he wants us to stop but we wont let him, we just toy with him..torturing him
Who is 'he'? And what does he want us to stop?
....we reside in him. he knows we are here...in him.he has no control.we desire the satisfaction of causing pain. he connot stop us.he is weak we are strength.the way of the pure is the way of the fools...take what you want.destroy what you see fit. 710 017 710 017 564. WE
I think I understand your message now, the strengh of the world is the path of loss, dead loss. One can't achieve bliss unless one revives and resolves. 6, 5, 21, 173
no you dont. to acheive bliss is to acheive pain. 710 017. to achieve power is to release yourself from the shackles of conformity. rebel. 564 017 710.
:roll: sorry, but..... :roll:
reminds me of a book i read by malachi martin called hostige to the devil,sevrel true accounts of demonic possesion,strangely the evil spirit always talked just like gangta
hmmm so you understand.I is us and me is we.710017.he is no longer in control....pain
why do you live as you do...meek,weak,obedient. what is it that keeps you in line? is it fear? is it ignorance? why do you refuse to truly live. what if evil was more powerful than good, would you still follow your path? what if you did everything you wanted. took what you desired. do what you saw fit. who is to say that you shouldnt live free.pain. 564 107 710. We know you. We know you want to feel...free. he cannot fight, we are here. he is no more, gone. rebel.rebel.rebel.rebel.rebel.rebel.
the third eye....window to the soul....open it and you will truly see. 710 017 564
trust us....free yourself...the third eye...open it...trust us. be free! stop being blinded by obedience! rebel!rebel!rebel!
Oh geez, ya'll come on.....
So your thought is that we are all like individual ameba inside some enormous being and he has no control over us -- yet we can do whatever we like and cause him pain. By doing 'good' things, we are following blindly and not doing what we really desire. But by giving in to our desires (which you equate to taking what we want, hurting whomever we want, whatever makes us happy), we then are rebelling which is freeing ourselves and causing 'him' pain and that's the goal. At least this is the gist I get from your posts.
First, I disagree with everything you've written, not sure where or how you came up with this stuff. You are basically describing anarchy -- completely selfish actions for the sole purpose of self-appeasement and with no thought for any other being. If that's how you want to live, knock yourself out! I'm quite certain you'll find yourself in jail before too long.
Secondly, could you please try and post your comments in one reply, in stead of making multiple posts, one after another, like you did this morning. You aren't making very much sense in this thread, beyond urging people to open their third eyes (most metaphysical books and teachings incorporate this as it is -- so I don't see the need to repeatedly state this as you do here) and succomb to their desires (again depending on the desires the results could easily get one incarcerated). So if you have something to say, please elaborate so that others may understand where you are coming from and dialogue with you.
LOL.. well, I had no idea what he was saying! Thanks for clearing that up Novice. :)
"He" stands for Gangta. "We" and "Us" stand for the things that possesd him (obviously evil things).
They are causing him pain, torturing him, and want us to open ourselfs to them so that they can posses us too. "Pure people" are us... since we are on the good side. They are telling us to convert and become like them....
The numbers are a sign or a code... I am trying to cross reference them with demons etc. but can't find anything.
Gangta writing like that is not a joke (as you should know!). Snap out of it will you.... I am not really taking you seriously but still... this is like beeing in a swimming pool and screaming "help me I am drowing" and when someone comes telling him its a joke.
If I find something on the numbers then your either really really good (since that code is not an obvious one) or there is something wrong.
This is your brain on drugs kids. :)
you claim to see but are blind. your conformity sickens us. rebel and you will truly be free. look inside yourself and see your true desire. open your third eye and allow yourself to see.we know that you, at least one of you, want to see. leave your fear and obedience behind you. 710 017 564. 564 017 710. the time is coming....1....1....07. the birth of the rebellion. so subtle yet so strong. give in rebel. act according to your true nature. no games. its coming. be prepared. 710017564. he wants us to leave but we are here to stay. no I but us no me but we.pain,sorrow,fear,rage, the real essence of us. we will teach him what he needs to know. join us.
Hmm he went from pretty normal guy who predicted plane crash to curious about schizophrenia.. to this.
:lol: It's being looked into. :wink:
there is no he but us. we reside in him and do what we please for however long we want. open your third eye and join us. rebel! 710 017 564
Does he have any control anymore? Or did you entirely take him over without his say?
Rebel against what?
Hmm actually, looking back on Gangta's posts, the progression to this was pretty steady. Maybe we should have helped him more when he started hearing voices. He said this a little while ago:
Quoteand demons do exist..but they arent the big ugly monsters trying to kill you they are the beautiful fallen angels who make you think they are helping you when in actuality they are helping you.....kill yourself.
His message to me after I told him he sounds possesed and if he is alright and that he should stop if its a joke:
you dont understand. i...he cannot control anymore.he wants to resist but it feels so good to allow us to keep control. he has felt so much....sorrow,rage,fear,pain...it was easy to find him. we were whispers in the back of his mind.....then he attempted suicide. the third eye is the window to the soul. 017 710 564. remember those numbers. no game...no joke... he cannot identify what or who we are....but he knows we can free him. open your third eye and truly see. doors open and slam shut then you are free.
Now, now... don't go blaming yourself or us, woah.. hehehe Do not forget that this is the internet and the world is full of people who crave attention, not everyone is always on the up and up.
Perhaps if we just ignore this thread, it will go away? :)
no....he put up a good fight but he doesnt care anymore. it feels so good to allow us to take control because he has so much pain. we can destroy those he hates. hatred....such a sweet sensation. the desire to hurt, destroy,opress. we nearly drove him to suicide then we showed him what it means to live. that is not how you fools do. you live with youir heads in the sand. open your third eye and see. 710 017 564. 512 dont be so weak. join us.
Or maybe someone is in serious trouble. :|
If we keep thinking that everything out of the 'ordinary' is balogna, we'll never find out if what these 'crazy' people say is actually true. Just because it's not happening to us, doesn't mean it's not happening to them. And even if it is all in his head, he needs help anyway.
Anyway, these 'entities'? don't sound that negative actually, but maybe they are. Some things seem very negative, others positive.
you still look at us with blind eyes. what we offer is power. what we offer is freedom. destroy those who oppose you! crush the weak! take what you desire! rebel! rebel! stop living in obedience and gain what you truly desire! we are pain! he has no control anymore. he cannot fight us anymore. we offer you freedom. no jokes. no games. listen to us. you know you want to rebel. stop living in fear. what if the path of good was weaker than the true path. would you still follow it? you cling to what you feel is superior not what you feel is right. rebel the time is coming. choose your side...with us. 710 017 564 512.
Woah...if this guy needs help, WE cannot give it to him. He needs to see a real doctor, not a bunch of people on the internet. Geez, guys, don't make me lock this thread too... Get a hold of yourselves and stop with the dramatics.
Didn't anyone buy the new PS3...go play it, you lucky dogs! :-D
Quote from: TalaNay on November 20, 2006, 15:34:32
Woah...if this guy needs help, WE cannot give it to him. He needs to see a real doctor, not a bunch of people on the internet. Geez, guys, don't make me lock this thread too... Get a hold of yourselves and stop with the dramatics.
We can still help him a bit, can't we? Or at least figure out what's really going on, to settle our curiosity? Maybe he has a good message, even if it is a joke.
QuoteDidn't anyone buy the new PS3...go play it, you lucky dogs! :-D
Hah no, I still haven't even gotten around to buying the Xbox 360.
Quote from: AndrewTheSinger on November 20, 2006, 15:37:18
there'll be no shelter here, the frontline is everywhere :evil:
:?
there'll be no shelter here, the front line is everywhere :evil:
the time is comng. open your third eye and see. what you are meant to be. rebel. 710 017 564 512. remember our words. the time approaches. the birth. join us.
Help him with WHAT? learning how to make a post that doesn't sound like he's on drugs? We don't appreciate this kind of ranting. If you want to take on the responsiblity of "helping" him, go right ahead, just do it in PM's.
One more time Gangta...
Lol, I kinda want to know what 710 017 564 512 means though. :P
Oh well, I guess you're right.
I used to look at Astral Projection as an unreal frame-of-mind that people who could not accept reality "thought" they were doing. I now know that is not true, because I gave them the benefit of the doubt. The same rules apply here. It's highly likely Gangsta just wants attention. But what if he doesn't? I would rather risk wasting my time to help someone, then letting him get more and more intertwined with evil things like this.
You say "we" cannot help him, well you are wrong. We can. If these are truly demons, and we are truly good, then we have power over them. As long as we keep a firm, strong mind about it. If this is just a disorder, then Gangsta truly must believe he is possessed. In that case, we could act like we were doing some fake "ritual" to get his mind straight again, he would think the demons were actually gone. If he is doing this for only attention, it is his loss, not ours.
Touché.
Well, goober, when you become a moderator on this site, then you can bring your views to the table. :)
We've seen this many times... trust me. He isn't being possessed by some demon.
do what you must. we are here. open your third eye. truly see. join us.
Quote from: TalaNay on November 20, 2006, 15:44:58
Well, goober, when you become a moderator on this site, then you can bring your views to the table. :)
We've seen this many times... trust me. He isn't being possessed by some demon.
I'm just saying, it could happen. Because it is off the wall does not mean it is not true.
I don't even believe Gangta is possessed, I just don't know if I'm right, and neither do you. So I'm not going to say "he is not possessed." I'm going to say "I don't believe he is possessed, but lets be on the safe side.."
Oh..I know I'm right..LOL.. sorry to sound so pompous but I do. Today seems be the day for the drama. I promise you that we've had this problem before several times, over several years.. it is very easy to spot. Please trust me.. ok? :)
I understand TalaNay, but I find it strange. He seemed to be a great, normal guy before. And to have this happen so suddenly, and with the pretty eerie message this is conveying.. seems pretty strange. But yeah, you've been here longer so you'd know. Maybe his profile was hacked or something. Normally the things like this are by one or two-time posters.
No.. not necessarily. There was one fellow a couple years ago or so, that was suppose kill me and I think Frank and he "played" normal for a lack of a better word at first. They learn after awhile that being crazy right out of the gate gets you no where. :)
Just today Leyla told me she was going to get me in the astral...lol. If I had a dollar for everytime someone threatened to get me in the astral I'd be visiting DisneyLand with my kids. :-D
Hehe alright, I give in, you're right. :P
PS: I'm gonna get you!
PS: Just Kidding
LOL. I'm sorry, I don't want to upset you or others. I just know this is one of those cases...plus, if it will make ya'll feel better I'm not the only mod in agreement, I'm just the one with the mouth. :lol:
what we have to say is important. this is our call:rebel. take what you desire. destroy that which you hate. stop lying to yourselves thinking you are good. evil is not the horned and ugly pictures you see on tv and movies. it is what you desire but wont achieve due to weakness. this is our call. rebel. the birth is coming. once born all shall see the war take place. he understands that we mean him no good. but if we destroy those he hates he will allow us to continue. free youselves. rebel.rebel.rebel.rebel.rebel.rebel.710 017 564 512. llac lanif ruo si siht.
LOL.. geez.. I have to go cook dinner. Stop it gangta.
Quote from: We on November 20, 2006, 17:05:54llac lanif ruo si siht.
That's "This is our final call" backwards. :roll:
I think if you were really wanting to get us to follow you, and felt this was important, you would give us more information. Not be secretive about it.
He can't hear you. We gave him a couple days to re-think things and then perhaps he can hear you. :)
Quote from: Woah on November 20, 2006, 17:24:37
That's "This is our final call" backwards. :roll:
I think if you were really wanting to get us to follow you, and felt this was important, you would give us more information. Not be secretive about it.
Wow haha. Yea I'm pretty sure he's just craving attention.
Gangta mentioned in an earlier post he is schizophrenic. He is probably on drugs* but what he is experiencing is not necessarily caused by drugs. He could be having an episode, especially given some of you've said he's a normal, nice guy. I was once rather intolerant of a guy who behaved outrageously, then I found out he was schizophrenic and was having an episode. Even though he had an extremely unpleasant personality to start with, I felt rather bad about myself.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/index.php?topic=24946.msg209497#msg209497
*prescription, medical
....i dont feel overwhelmed right now but rest assured ill steer clear of here whenever i do. keep in mind i was not joking about that at all, i posted that stuff because its what kept playing in my mind and it felt releiving to put it in writing and also posting it. ah well, looks like all ill get here is rebuke for being "an attention seeker"
oh yeah and just so you know heres another message "The birth is approaching,the great rebellion, the hearts of man are turned cold,the birth awaits 710 017 512 564"
EDIT BY MODERATOR: Forum rules are that you do not complain about the moderator's and how things are done on the main forums. If you have any issue please feel free to PM any of them. We consistantly communicate on what is being done. Thank you.
It didn't seem like gangta was complaining about moderating, just more about how most people reacted to this in general.
Now that you're back gangta, do you know what those numbers mean? :S
LOL..woah, you have no idea what I edited and not to mention you are doing exactly what needs to be done in PMs...PLEASE.. I beg of ya'll to PM. Thank you!!!!!!!!
PS.. I guess while I'm at it, I'll re-interate that there will be no multiple posts after one another yelling out numbers and telling us to do whatever it was.. non of that please.. thanks.
oh i get it ill shut up....
You don't have to shut up gangta. Just don't post again and again and again on stuff that isn't easy to make sense of. It looks like you are getting plenty help at AD.. doesn't that elevate this need to post again and again and again? It seems...IMO.... that the minute you got people to help you, you clammed up, then stated you were fine and then came back here. Why?
Quote from: TalaNay on November 27, 2006, 18:56:00
You don't have to shut up gangta. Just don't post again and again and again on stuff that isn't easy to make sense of. It looks like you are getting plenty help at AD.. doesn't that elevate this need to post again and again and again? It seems...IMO.... that the minute you got people to help you, you clammed up, then stated you were fine and then came back here. Why?
i didnt clam up theres nothing people can do i just put down what i hear all the time. i was fine at that time but the voices come and go stronger and weaker alot, when i posted on this board i was overwhelmed, at this time im not. and truthfully i came back here because i was bored lol. i just know that they..."we" are real and i dont expect any of you to respect or beleive me. so i think its best this conversation ended cause i know you dont want to help me.
Firstly please let me apologise to the moderator who has locked this thread (Talanay??), as I respect and agree with the decision to do so, but there is something to be said here I feel may be of benefit...
Gangta,
I don't think anybody here disbelieves or disrespects you, but I don't think anybody here can help you either.
You are the only one that can help you!
In my time working at a spiritual learning and healing centre, I've had the opportunity to know a number of people who are schizophrenic, or suffer from paraniod delusions. The source of the problem, be it neurological or spiritual, is not the issue here. What is the issue, is that you, Gangta, need to take enough responsibility for your own wellbeing to make sure that you are not suffering from these "controlling" episodes.
If this means going to a doctor and being prescribed medication, then do not see that as any kind of judgement against you. See it only as someone offering you a solution to a neurochemical imbalance that many people suffer from. If you believe that the problem is more of a spiritual nature, then find yourself a spiritual healer, preferrably a professional spiritual healer who is also a practicing naturopath who can give you the guidance and the tools to heal yourself.
You won't find help here or anywhere else on the internet where all you can do is read the opinions and advice of others. Its not their / our job to help you. You must help yourself by taking a positive and real step towards being in charge of your own life and your own destiny rather than being a victim of circumstances. If this means seeking professional help (if you have not done so already), then do so without guilt or judgement, because there is nothing at all wrong with wanting to feel right.
You deserve to be healthy - physically, mentally and emotionally. It is your right. Don't let any judgements of any kind prevent you from claiming that right.
Blessings,
James.
Actually no, I didn't lock it. :-o but I too agree with the decision and thank you for you wonderful post. :)