Instant Karma

[Nexmofo]

I was told by a woman with multiple personality disorder, who could also channel spirits and communicate with animals, that you could achieve instant karma by just sincerely asking for it. If so, it would be great for spiritual development since you'd learn from your mistakes right away and advance "faster".

Hehe, I'm currently not asking for this since I've chosen the "dark side."

I believe her, but I want to see your points of view.

Any experience with this? What do you guys think?

[CaCoDeMoN]

Hehe, I'm currently not asking for this since I've chosen the "dark side."  

Dark side? Do you know what this "dark side" is about?

[pod_3]

Faith is a virtue.

[pharmakeia]

As you continue to become more aware, you'll be aware of the ravages of improper action on the here nowness of yourself and the impressions it has made on the whole you through your life. The somatic impressions on your mind/body space exist as the impressionist undercurrents of asubconsious river of past information that "controls habit" more then produces growth oriented order and organization.

Thus any regressive memories that surface can be benificial to the seeker who questions the source of their current state of BEING.

Transformation is an interesting topic as it relates to instant karma.

pharmakeia

[majour ka]

Dark side? whats that, star wars?

Karma good or bad will come back to us when we are at our lowest ebb, so to create and experience the greatest effect in this life or the next, there is no escaping it.

[Kris]

Hehe, I'm currently not asking for this since I've chosen the "dark side."

you don't know what you're getting into...

[Leannain]

what do you mean by" dark side"?

[Nexmofo]

OK, guys, let me clear something up.

I didn't mean for the word "dark side" to be taken literally; although I understand why some of you have.

What I do mean by it it's that I'm (due to certain occurrences) not concentrating on acts of goodness at the moment, but taking a more selfish approach at self-improvement.

I know that acts of goodness in themselves are a form of improving ones self dramatically, but that's not what I'm concentrating on the time being.

I may be gathering some negative karma, which is why I do not wish for instant karma right now.

I'm not evil in any way (although I have doubts on the existence of such), and help others when they need it most.

That's what I meant.

[CaCoDeMoN]

Negative karma for this? I think that you will be punished only because you believe you will...

[BirdManKalki]

"Bad Karma" if there is such a thing, can be eliminated via belief in simple symbolic action, for example, the deletion of a thread, this only works if you believe.

If you ask anything or anyone sincerely lessons and Karma can be learned gained, or whatever.

[TheLostOne]

hello

I've noticed in my life that karma effects instantly..
I don't know why, but i agree is much faster learning and understanding of the world. You don't "want to give anything away" that you wouldnt like to experience from others.. it seems you are limited somehow, but then again, you aren't...

after thinking you come to idea to use this karma effect for yourself, benefit... , I have then noticed that "bad karma" is instant but "good karma" is not(i know this cant be truth) so i wonder.. I just don't see that "good" karma .. or ??

or I'm not giving it away with right intention.. energy?

(Im just found out that when writing this post, I'm taking in consideration things that I never would)

so just 1 question came into my mind>
so, what is really the thing the masters did.. thez used karma for theirself..
give love, receive love..

i once heard somethign about "escaping cause/effect circle-karma"..
is this bovine excrement?
ok
best regards

[TheLostOne]

that [edit] = diarrhea from the buffalo

[Tom]

I want everyone to admit that they are thinking it: Just add water.

More seriously, I read in Mahayana Buddhism that the Bodhisattva Chenrezigs (Avalokitesvara) gives good karma to anyone who asks for it, from his own supply. It was compared to having a checking account with such a high balance that he can give out blank checks to anyone who will then be able to fill in any amount. I have tried asking before, but it is hard to say objectively that it worked or did not.

[GuardianMasterAngel]

Karma is a dualistic energy, and in scientific terms is the product of something which is known as 'Fractal Supersymmetry' actually if a person does not want to be a victim of Karmic retribution, they do not have to be.

[daidaluz]

after thinking you come to idea to use this karma effect for yourself, benefit... , I have then noticed that "bad karma" is instant but "good karma" is not(i know this cant be truth) so i wonder.. I just don't see that "good" karma .. or ??

Probably is about learning to control karma energy.  I see bad karma as a mass of (chaotic) energy that comes from one or many locations (spots ?? !!!).

What if we learn to "control" different types of "chaotic" energies?    I think the answer is that we would probably learn to turn some of this instant bad karma into a good karma. So instant bad karma could be a instant good (or favorable) karma to ourselves.

Great Masters had the capability to turn bad events into favorable events; even through history it seems that they were specting some bad karma to turn it into something good to their cause.

[BirdManKalki]

Read all our words as if it were just one talking, via intuition we bring our own info together. These posts are an example of cause an effect.

For myself Karma is lessons depending on how you perceive these lessons, via the lower mind one might term them Good Karma or Bad Karma, when really all just is. Be happy with whatever you throw at yourself.

"Or I'm not giving it away with right intention.. Energy?"

All energy is thought, so do you mean you try and do nice things in order to have nice return, and then you think oh should of I be thinking this way because I'm premeditating instead of just going with the flow?  

The "Masters" as you say, were just ordinary nice guys who didn't really care about anything and yet loved and accepted anything they threw at themselves. The Masters turned tragedy in triumph because they were the only one's awake and thus they accepted responsibility for all the tragedies unconsciously made by everyone including themselves in the first place, kind of a scary thing to wake up to if you ask me.            

"What if we learn to "control" different types of "chaotic" energies? I think the answer is that we would probably learn to turn some of this instant bad karma into a good karma. So instant bad karma could be a instant good (or favourable) karma to ourselves."

Understand the word and it is done

"Great Masters had the capability to turn bad events into favourable events; even through history it seems that they were expecting some bad karma to turn it into something good to their cause."

Spot on

For example, lets take all of Americas beneficial Karma, for the cause. We are now as we always have been, the Invisible Real America or IRA watch the Dumi George Bush and cronies preach for us, you'll have to listen carefully to hear the changeovers, and now instead of hearing Bush dangerously speak you hear the Dumi speak, which alerts you to the plan adds to our cause and ensures you that all is running smoothly.

Thanks for your help.

To escape Karma, understand that there is only one cause and only one effect and both are equal as one, just like blood is Blue and Red.  

(=Kabala=Handed=Down=Tradition=))((=Watch=And=Hear=Three=Kings=DVD=)

You hearing me?

[daidaluz]

Hi BirdManKalki, well, heh      ......  mmmm ....first post is always important.

I was told by a woman with multiple personality disorder, who could also channel spirits and communicate with animals, that you could achieve instant karma by just sincerely asking for it. If so, it would be great for spiritual development since you'd learn from your mistakes right away and advance "faster".

Then pharmakeia wrote

As you continue to become more aware, you'll be aware of the ravages of improper action on the here nowness of yourself and the impressions it has made on the whole you through your life. The somatic impressions on your mind/body space exist as the impressionist undercurrents of asubconsious river of past information that "controls habit" more then produces growth oriented order and organization.
Thus any regressive memories that surface can be benificial to the seeker who questions the source of their current state of BEING.

Transformation is an interesting topic as it relates to instant karma.

And Tom was giving some life to the point

want everyone to admit that they are thinking it: Just add water.

More seriously, I read in Mahayana Buddhism that the Bodhisattva Chenrezigs (Avalokitesvara) gives good karma to anyone who asks for it, from his own supply. It was compared to having a checking account with such a high balance that he can give out blank checks to anyone who will then be able to fill in any amount. I have tried asking before, but it is hard to say objectively that it worked or did not.

It's a learning to pay attention to those who are older than you.

To get this clear,   you may see bad karma as those "problems" in your life that don't know why are they happening. This may come from other people (in relationship), own health, etc.  look at GuardianMasterAngel's post.
If you can detect that bad karma as coming from a group of people (for example), then you must be able to manage concepts in a wider sense.

[BirdManKalki]

No its learning to read between the lines (decoding light), there is no age, you just judged me you didn't even attempt to hear. Its learning to listen to yourself.

your lucky i'm such a nice guy with lodsa love, otherwise i'd rip into you.

why do I even bother, why do you spit in my face?

Your words speak for yourself, you just judge yourself.

anyone watch three kings?

[daidaluz]

Hahaha , now I'm interested.  


     See you around.  

[Chimerae]

My understanding, (that I've not been able to bring to practical mastery) is that you set your intention.

If your intention is to resolve your Karma -- off you go and the lessons come faster and with greater clarity.

I've been around a number of powerful people who wanted Instant Karma -- the true desire of their hearts.  They're all dead now, but that might be a reflection of the pattern of my old associates.

Here's what I observed in their lives in the years after setting their intent for instant Karma:

Almost immediately, their lives became indescribably difficult -- think the fast track to Step One ". . . our lives had become unmanageable . . ."  Even though these were people with spiritual experience and good practice (but in my eyes questionable wisdom) not all of them could actually cope with the power of genuine powerlessness and either backpedaled off their intent or melted down right there and never made it through.  About 2/3 made it to the next step.

Not long after that, their lives took an astonishing jump "upward" with breakthough after breakthough.  Watching from the outside, it look to me like setting their intent instantly resolved all the karma that could be instantly resolved -- and put tremendous pressure on the hard stuff their egos had difficulty surviving in its resolution.  Major spiritual ascention, resolution of many life issues very quickly.  Most people completely changes their interpersonal associates at this point.

Post elevation, there always seemed to be a nagging issue or two that they took with them to the grave and never could quite master.

Could be that this is not at all on point and just a reflection of my associations, but here it is for whatever it's worth.

As for me, I need all the grace -- graceful timing, graceful release, graceful resolution, and all the rest of the grace I don't understand as well -- just doing what needs to be done right now.

[BirdManKalki]

Check your words before you speak, I've got to decode them!

Need I say, hear this

D12 Words Are weapons

[BirdManKalki]

There will be world peace, mutual understanding, everyone will understand they are in mass communion, casualties will be kept to a minimum.

I am the A and the Z, Light and Thought, First And Last

(A=X=Z) (Light=X=Thought=) (First=X=Last)  

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[Legend]

That's very possible.  I think that I'm like that.  I don't' specifically request for it (but maybe I did before coming here).  It seems that everything out weights itself through time.  Sometimes I see it as bad luck, but in reality, I think it's just an echo effect

I was told by a woman with multiple personality disorder, who could also channel spirits and communicate with animals, that you could achieve instant karma by just sincerely asking for it. If so, it would be great for spiritual development since you'd learn from your mistakes right away and advance "faster".

Hehe, I'm currently not asking for this since I've chosen the "dark side."

I believe her, but I want to see your points of view.

Any experience with this? What do you guys think?