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"Simultaneous Incarnations" and the Purpose of Kar

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Kyo Kusanagi

From the Afterlife Knowledge Forum here, I made the following post in reply to Spooky :

QuoteThank you Kyo, most of it I got as "info" in meditations, to me it's nice to hear other people have similar/same informations. Though I'm not aware of possible simultane incarnations, and it's difficult for me to get through this "place" I call my Big I.

And thanks for sharing and bringing it up in the first place, Spooky, as well as for all your other posts which I do enjoy.

Regarding simultaneous incarnations, it's really about making the concept easier to understand and to relate to in the consciousness of most people. It is true that at the 'individual human soul' level, simultaneous *intraphysical incarnation* is extremely rare, because each lifetime requires much careful focused attention (analogous to a CPU intensive task), and so multi-tasking in the sense of running two or more super intensive tasks, are ill-advised, self-sabotaging, and thus extremely rare. Usually it is in the case of identical twins, that the 'multi-tasking' becomes much easier, and thus it becomes more viable an option.

However, as I said, it's really about helping people understand the concept (first and foremost; the question of frequency of actual occurrence practice of this at any level including the intraphysical, can then be discussed). Because simultaneous beingness, projection or exploration by the consciousness, even at the individual human soul level, *does* indeed occur. Three examples for this follows.

Bruce (Moen) has written about this, in which the person is physically awake, and yet simultaneously in an extraphysical projected state witnessed by another projector.

Robert Bruce has written about this, in which he could simultaneously see his projected self through his physical eyes, and at the same time see his physical self through his projected eyes. He calls this the 'mind-split', and notes that most people are unaware of this phenomenon.

Michael Newton has written about this, in which his research findings on the intermissive period (ie. life-between-life period) indicates that each individual human soul only incarnates a chosen percentage, eg. 70%, of his/her soul or consciential energy, into the physical body for the duration of the entire lifetime. The remaining 30% remains at the 'higher self' level, or could be taken to be the 'higher self', that continues to be active in the spirit world or extraphysical, whilst always maintaining an intimate connection to the incarnated self or personality. Intuition could be considered communications from the higher self.  


Quoteit's difficult for me to get through this "place" I call my Big I.

Assuming you are referring to 'individual ego', yes ego (which is really the tendency to fall into the illusion of separation from others/All-the-Cosmos; forgetting that the separation is only in form, not in essence) can be quite a nuisance. Much of Karma (to be technically accurate, the aspect of Karma that the IAC calls "evolutionary inertia", which is the tendency for repeating old habit patterns, mostly unproductive or unevolved ones), as defined by clairvoyant seer Charles Breaux, author of "Way of Karma", is due to the ego's self-identity and survival instinct gone wrong, and resulting in a self-identity (and hence tenacious struggle, repeated over and over again), based on various 'stuck' concepts of self-identity, effectively becoming into deep seated issues that manifest across many lifetimes as simultaneous cause-and-effect, including many traumatic relationships, experiences and suffering.

Some people think that the root cause of their karma and suffering came from a certain past life. In a sense, that is correct. But also see the bigger picture, that the seed of that particular Karma or issue, came from within the Soul, to be precise, the need for that soul (by free will) to explore a particular issue, hence attracting various experiences that are actually the effect, but also simultaneously the cause (creating further karma), for various experiences across lifetimes.

For instance, in this life, a person might have an allergy to cats. Past life regression or clairvoyant investigation might reveal that the person was mauled to death by a lion in a past life. Or as another example, a victim of sexual abuse or incest in this lifetime. Again, there can be usually be found some connection between victim and perpetrator in a past life. Sometimes, though rarely, it is a role-reversal, but usually it is a repeating pattern of sorts, and with the same negative intrusion/attachment involved.

But in all of these cases, from a higher viewpoint, there must have been some higher lesson (though this in no way condones the anti-cosmoethical actions of abuse and harm to another; the negative Karma that results for the perpetrator is inescapable, but that's his issue and learning, and another story altogether), or higher purpose, or potential for learning, balancing and evolution of the soul, that seeded from within the soul in the first place, wanting or needing to explore a certain aspect of existence or learning, and thus attracting and manifesting various experiences (each of which create their own karma, or modify and evolve existing related karma), throughout the individual's series of physical incarnations.

It is important that people, including past life hypnotists and regressionists, understand and appreciate this point. That a present life issue or difficulty, can not be truly solved (in terms of evolutionary purpose, or the point of the entire issue in the first place) by simply going into a schema of linear cause-and-effect from a past life event. But seeing the bigger picture, why the soul needed to experience the first such experience in that distant past life in the first place.

It always relates back to the needs of the soul (ie. the causative seed comes from within), and manifested *across* physical lifetimes in various ways and issues. The whole purpose being to explore, balance and ultimately to grow and evolve in a certain area.

The cat allergy in *this* lifetime ('caused' by the traumatic mauling by a lion in a past life), serves an important purpose, in fact, serving the individual him/her - to allow him/herself the opportunity to properly explore this issue within his/her soul, to balance the karma, by letting go of various limiting beliefs, of various concepts of self-identity, of seeing and understanding *Clearly* (see the work of Byron Katie) the true meaning of one's own reactions, thoughts and emotions, to the issue, and finally to move into a place of greater love, with regards to that issue. That's how evolution works, and that's the purpose of Karma.

Tayesin

Hi,
Personally, I think we do have more than one incarnation upon this world at any one time. The reason being that I perceive the Soul to be far larger and more powerful than belief-systems allow for. This then also allows for us to see that the Soul is active in all the levels/planes of the Astral and beyond, even allowing for us to have incarnations upon other worlds at the same time.

What we don't usually perceive is anything beyond our brain-washed, belief-system based awareness of the single body this portion of our awareness is comfortable with. I think the massive being we truly are proportions itself to accomodate the standard thoughts on existence within a body, which then prevents us from knowing anything about our greater Self and it's wonderful existence beyond those standards.

I see Karma as a mechanical 'program' that is part of the System required upon most three dimensional worlds that we agree to abide by in order to experience this 3D world; it is simple, effective, and is definitelt not a Judgment-based operating system.

But I just might be crazy tho'