Can you guys comprehend the "no beginning" concept. I can't lol, but I'm fine with it. I can comprehend the no end/infinity, and timelessness as well, but no beginning escapes me. Not that I don't believe, I just can't comprehend it. No beginning means that there is no such a thing as something being created at some point, like we were not created after God decided to create us. We have always been as energy of course we are God in its entirety, and if God has no beginning so everything has no beginning either, even as individualized points of consciousness. We experience beginnings and ends/transformation on a simulation scale, but to think that in actuality we have no beginning is incredible.
The absolute Nature of Source, God is far, far beyond anything the human mind at this stage of evolution, can even begin to comprehend. We cannot speak of "beginnings" or "ends" as these are duality based concepts arising from the illusion of "time" and "space", neither of which exist. It ultimately condenses to one factor - Faith in absolute terms, Faith that we ARE God, One with God, Expressions of Source, with the same attributes and powers within us. Ultimately, at the end of the Spiritual Path of Evolution, ALL WILL be known and Experienced upon becoming fully Source, God Realised.
On an Earthly level, for example, most computer, smart phone car users or whatever have no idea how these things are designed, assembled, work etc. but everyone has faith that when they are switched on, they will simply work when needed.
I feel like the cosmos are in a continually rotating spiral. There was a theory posed that the universe is on one continuous loop, recording everything as the "tape" loops backward, only to come back around again. My hope is, that as the universe expands that humankind makes better choices next go around. I can't speak for inhabitants of other planets though -- of course.
I agree with you Adrian except to say that space and time do exist. I am of the belief that material reality is likened to a Shadow- often described as an Illusion or a Dream compared to a reality that exist beyond, underneath, Above and all around. These thoughts are not to discredit what you've shared, as the essence of what you wish to relay is well understood(in which I am in agreement).
Faith is an incredible act, and it is one I can not speak of with such confidence. I have met resistance because of my own limitations and lack of understanding. I am totally a babe in the eyes of Spirit reality. Faith, as I am beginning to understand it- is more often than not, surrender. Surrender to what? Surrender to whom?
LB you gave me wonderful advice in my projection journal. And it's all kind of cementing itself at this time, as I try to restabilize and find some grounding with where I presently reside.
That advice/reminder is the power of choice. I think the reason it is difficult to comprehend an Eternal Personality Presence is because we are so identified as evolutionary creatures of time and space. And, as a personal belief, there are even further levels of attainment to be had while existing as a creature in time and space- human of earth and otherwise. I do believe in progressive attainment to such an extent that perhaps we are born again, in a different body with different rules depending on the region we find our awareness tethered(for a time)...
At the same time, I believe there exist a sentient Reality free from the linear process, perhaps existing even outside of time and space. How can a mortal mind expect to comprehend such a reality, when the body we identify with comes with its own set of parameters? Yet, do we not wish to explore those depths- push our limitations and boundaries and achieve what some might call impossible?
I was having a hard time consolidating reality the last few days because I believe everything is sentient. The invisible space is not empty space, the room I am in is not just a room. And there is a constant guiding force attempting to help me wake up. It is patient, but I am so identified with my temporal incarnation that I try to force further integration.
Only to realize I am not ready. To realize I still have so many fears to overcome, desires to explore and accomplishments to achieve. How can I be expected to reconcile Infinite Reality if I can not tame the bodily chemistry that moves through me and influences my behavior? How can I expect to understand, when I am still a slave to particular whims and not yet a Master? How often do I forget my own desire to harmonize material and spiritual reality- only to realize I am still at odd-ends with my host planet?
I can only cry a sweet relief that there is such a loving force guiding us, and that it is present. And I do drive my self crazy at times because I wish to break free and experience more. As evolutionary creatures, it is apparent to me I can do more- but not without real discipline and understanding of where I find my self. I believe nameless just created a thread- to be aware.
More important than trying to conceptualize no beginning is to remember the power of choice and to cultivate awareness. I do believe there is an infinitely more intelligent being guiding us, children of time, towards Eternal Eventuality.
I just finished Season 2 of Star Trek Discovery(it wasn't bad- I enjoyed some of the concepts) and I was in such agreement with what Spock had to say near the end of this episode... Here I find(again) this living intelligence affirming my internal existence, where I reside presently, as I try to grasp and bridge my conflicting expressions. It is the same message all of you here have shared time and time again:
"We learned we're not yet ready to learn everything
Time is relevant
The universe is under no obligation to make sense to me. "
Still... I do believe I will learn, am being guided(have seen the proof so much that it literally drives my limited self mad)... I want to learn more, I don't have to learn everything- but I do want more of Reality and less of this Shadow-Dream... Though universe is under no obligation- I do believe if we ask, we will receive... And we can learn... But I must remember time is relevant... I ask, how "old" are the beings assisting those waking up from the dream? What is a few hundred years for material beings in a different region of time and space? What about for a being outside time and space?
All good points, Adrian and Tides! In my view space and time are simulations because I am always looking at things form the highest point of view. However the EXPERIENCE of time and space is real, otherwise we will not be perceiving as such.
Quote from: LightBeam on August 10, 2025, 23:14:33All good points, Adrian and Tides! In my view space and time are simulations because I am always looking at things form the highest point of view. However the EXPERIENCE of time and space is real, otherwise we will not be perceiving as such.
The experience of time only seems real, because the mind makes it real. People relate to time though through the collective invented instruments such as clocks, calendars etc.. Animals have no concept of time. In the Astral there is no perception of time as there is nothing to relate it to. But as you say, from a universal perspective time and space do not exist in absolute terms, which is why "reincarnation" or anything else that implies sequentiality cannot exist. Time, like everything else in humans experience in the "physical world," is a simulation, a collective belief of humanity that it really exists.